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"Put your nuts on the table, boy..." 💀🔥 Nick O’Neill isn't holding back on Michael Saylor changing the rules on MicroStrategy. If the "never sell" mantra was real, why dump the stock? “Sell a billion dollars of Bitcoin and let's see how the market actually reacts.” "I think they're... show more

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