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“Quant trading is simpler than people think.” Goon joins the Insilico Terminal Podcast to talk about finding crypto edges, market making, and why the best trades often come from clicking around broken markets before anyone else notices. We covered TradFi, early DeFi rugs, solo trading, perp DEXs, Hyperliquid, prediction...

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[The next retail mania won’t be forex, it’ll be crypto social trading] “Social trading is gonna get a lot more popular.” “You can hit 100x’s and 1000x’s in crypto. You cannot do that in forex.” “The real money comes from being early.” Ansem 🐂🀄️ compared today’s crypto market to the forex boom during COVID. Back then, people paid for trading groups hoping to find alpha. Forex never offered the kind of upside they were chasing. Crypto is different. The biggest winners catch new narratives before everyone else. That’s why he sees social trading becoming a core part of the next cycle, where finding the right people matters as much as finding the right trade.

Kaiz 🐂🀄️

78,492 просмотров • 28 дней назад

EDGE REVEALED: How an Ex-Jane Street Trader Finds Edge in Markets & Life Agustin Lebron Agustin Lebron (former Jane Street trader, author of The Laws of Trading, now working at an AI startup applying reinforcement learning to market execution) breaks down what edge really means — and how to find yours in trading, careers & life. “Edge is something that either you know or you can do that the marginal participant in that market either doesn’t or can’t.” We cover: - What edge actually means & how Jane Street builds organizational edge (their worst skill is still "pretty decent") - Why you can never truly know if you have edge — the statistical vs intuitive approaches - The consolidation of quant trading: from dozens of options firms to a handful of giants - The gamblification of everything — retail trading, sports betting & prediction markets fueling quant profits - What it was like having Sam Bankman-Fried (SBF) as a Jane Street intern: "Day one, I'm going to ask all the questions" - How to apply edge thinking to your own career: find what you're differentially good at - Raising teenagers in the AI age: why the traditional path still works, but other paths are opening up 00:00 Introduction 00:44 What is edge in financial markets 01:43 Jane Street and organizational structures for quant trading 03:46 Identifying and validating edge in trading 06:22 Navigating extreme market events and volatility 09:37 Future of quant trading and consolidation 12:15 Why quant firm profits have increased 14:42 The gamblization of everything 15:55 Who should pursue a career in quant trading 18:19 Applying the concept of edge to career and life decisions 20:56 Advice for interns to excel in quant trading 23:44 Predicting long-term success in trading interns 25:08 Sam Bankman-Fried as an intern and FTX reflections 28:15 Reasons people leave Jane Street and what they do next 31:19 Advice for young people in a changing world 36:09 Navigating job insecurity in tech-driven roles 38:55 Where to live if you want to be successful 40:28 Raising kids for a rapidly changing future 42:55 Questions young people should ask themselves 44:45 Outro and book recommendation
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EDGE REVEALED: How an Ex-Jane Street Trader Finds Edge in Markets & Life Agustin Lebron Agustin Lebron (former Jane Street trader, author of The Laws of Trading, now working at an AI startup applying reinforcement learning to market execution) breaks down what edge really means — and how to find yours in trading, careers & life. “Edge is something that either you know or you can do that the marginal participant in that market either doesn’t or can’t.” We cover: - What edge actually means & how Jane Street builds organizational edge (their worst skill is still "pretty decent") - Why you can never truly know if you have edge — the statistical vs intuitive approaches - The consolidation of quant trading: from dozens of options firms to a handful of giants - The gamblification of everything — retail trading, sports betting & prediction markets fueling quant profits - What it was like having Sam Bankman-Fried (SBF) as a Jane Street intern: "Day one, I'm going to ask all the questions" - How to apply edge thinking to your own career: find what you're differentially good at - Raising teenagers in the AI age: why the traditional path still works, but other paths are opening up 00:00 Introduction 00:44 What is edge in financial markets 01:43 Jane Street and organizational structures for quant trading 03:46 Identifying and validating edge in trading 06:22 Navigating extreme market events and volatility 09:37 Future of quant trading and consolidation 12:15 Why quant firm profits have increased 14:42 The gamblization of everything 15:55 Who should pursue a career in quant trading 18:19 Applying the concept of edge to career and life decisions 20:56 Advice for interns to excel in quant trading 23:44 Predicting long-term success in trading interns 25:08 Sam Bankman-Fried as an intern and FTX reflections 28:15 Reasons people leave Jane Street and what they do next 31:19 Advice for young people in a changing world 36:09 Navigating job insecurity in tech-driven roles 38:55 Where to live if you want to be successful 40:28 Raising kids for a rapidly changing future 42:55 Questions young people should ask themselves 44:45 Outro and book recommendation

Ethan Kho

214,514 просмотров • 6 месяцев назад

What It's Like Building a Proprietary Power Trading Firm with Cory Paddock Cory Paddock (Cory Paddock) has been trading the physical power grid since the early 2000s. He built his own firm from scratch in 2014 — trading his own capital — and has navigated every major paradigm shift in U.S. energy markets since coal dominated the grid. "It's the perfect amount of darkness. The information is public — but it's in the dark." We cover: - How Cory built a point of view on paradigm shifts before the market caught up - Why power trading sits at the intersection of economics & physics — and why that matters for edge - Why backtesting more than a few years of power data is basically useless — the grid isn't the same grid - LMP & locational marginal pricing: how physical grid constraints turn into alpha if you know where to look - The 5–10 trades that make your year — and why forcing setups in the lean periods kills you - How GBE stripped pay uncertainty out of trader comp so people can just focus on trading well - What it actually feels like watching your own money swing in real-time — and when it stops feeling that way Thanks so much Cory for coming on Odds on Open! Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:09 Starting GBE and finding trading edge 01:38 Overview of electricity markets and pricing 02:05 Power trading structure and deregulated markets 04:11 Research pipeline for market data analysis 04:56 Domain knowledge and renewable energy trading 06:39 LLMs and AI tools for quants 07:49 Grid data and intraday market signals 09:25 Finding alpha in electricity markets 10:13 Paradigm shifts and regime change insights 13:19 Coal to gas, wind, and solar trends 14:39 Data centers, EVs, and load growth 16:47 Recruiting talent in energy trading firms 17:38 Gen Z quants and algorithmic trading skills 21:55 Outliers, agency, and Gen Z traders 24:11 Culture and innovation in quant finance 27:29 Trading personal capital and risk management 28:06 PJM West Hub and market dynamics 32:19 Five-minute tick data and volatility 34:49 High-conviction trades and alpha generation 35:35 Incentive alignment and trader performance 36:42 Pay structure and removing stress capital 39:22 Motivation and purpose in trading careers 40:00 Passing knowledge to the next generation 42:04 Host reflections on electricity trading 42:14 Closing thoughts and sign-off
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What It's Like Building a Proprietary Power Trading Firm with Cory Paddock Cory Paddock (Cory Paddock) has been trading the physical power grid since the early 2000s. He built his own firm from scratch in 2014 — trading his own capital — and has navigated every major paradigm shift in U.S. energy markets since coal dominated the grid. "It's the perfect amount of darkness. The information is public — but it's in the dark." We cover: - How Cory built a point of view on paradigm shifts before the market caught up - Why power trading sits at the intersection of economics & physics — and why that matters for edge - Why backtesting more than a few years of power data is basically useless — the grid isn't the same grid - LMP & locational marginal pricing: how physical grid constraints turn into alpha if you know where to look - The 5–10 trades that make your year — and why forcing setups in the lean periods kills you - How GBE stripped pay uncertainty out of trader comp so people can just focus on trading well - What it actually feels like watching your own money swing in real-time — and when it stops feeling that way Thanks so much Cory for coming on Odds on Open! Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:09 Starting GBE and finding trading edge 01:38 Overview of electricity markets and pricing 02:05 Power trading structure and deregulated markets 04:11 Research pipeline for market data analysis 04:56 Domain knowledge and renewable energy trading 06:39 LLMs and AI tools for quants 07:49 Grid data and intraday market signals 09:25 Finding alpha in electricity markets 10:13 Paradigm shifts and regime change insights 13:19 Coal to gas, wind, and solar trends 14:39 Data centers, EVs, and load growth 16:47 Recruiting talent in energy trading firms 17:38 Gen Z quants and algorithmic trading skills 21:55 Outliers, agency, and Gen Z traders 24:11 Culture and innovation in quant finance 27:29 Trading personal capital and risk management 28:06 PJM West Hub and market dynamics 32:19 Five-minute tick data and volatility 34:49 High-conviction trades and alpha generation 35:35 Incentive alignment and trader performance 36:42 Pay structure and removing stress capital 39:22 Motivation and purpose in trading careers 40:00 Passing knowledge to the next generation 42:04 Host reflections on electricity trading 42:14 Closing thoughts and sign-off

Ethan Kho

17,408 просмотров • 6 месяцев назад

Full Podcast with Spencer: OG Trader to Full-time Founder & CEO in Crypto. Spencer is the founder of Orange Cap Games & Head Birb at Moonbirds. “Our tagline always was ‘bring IP to life.’” 00:00:56 – Meeting Spencer 00:02:13 – Spencer’s Background Before Crypto 00:03:52 – Talking Trading Cards 00:08:04 – How Trading Cards evolved in the digital era 00:11:18 – How Environment Shapes Ambition & Success 00:14:25 – Private Influence vs Public Leadership in Crypto 00:16:07 – Why Skill Is Hard to Measure in Crypto Trading 00:19:34 – Overtrading, Conviction & Playing the Long Game 00:22:10 – Seeing the Crypto Chessboard 00:26:47 – Being Both a Founder and a Trader 00:31:48 – Why Acquiring Moonbirds Made Sense 00:38:46 – The Future of Moonbirds, IP & Brand Building
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Full Podcast with Spencer: OG Trader to Full-time Founder & CEO in Crypto. Spencer is the founder of Orange Cap Games & Head Birb at Moonbirds. “Our tagline always was ‘bring IP to life.’” 00:00:56 – Meeting Spencer 00:02:13 – Spencer’s Background Before Crypto 00:03:52 – Talking Trading Cards 00:08:04 – How Trading Cards evolved in the digital era 00:11:18 – How Environment Shapes Ambition & Success 00:14:25 – Private Influence vs Public Leadership in Crypto 00:16:07 – Why Skill Is Hard to Measure in Crypto Trading 00:19:34 – Overtrading, Conviction & Playing the Long Game 00:22:10 – Seeing the Crypto Chessboard 00:26:47 – Being Both a Founder and a Trader 00:31:48 – Why Acquiring Moonbirds Made Sense 00:38:46 – The Future of Moonbirds, IP & Brand Building

JackGK

36,015 просмотров • 7 месяцев назад

Inside the mind of an ex-SIG quant trader who can't turn off the EV brain - even for his kid's school choice Andrew Courtney (Andrew Courtney) ran the International ETFs Trading Desk at Susquehanna International Group for ~15 years before leaving in 2023. He now runs Kalshionomics (Kalshinomics), a prediction markets analytics tool, and writes the Whirligig Bear, one of the sharpest prediction markets Substacks out there. "I think of everything as a bet. I kind of don't understand how you talk to normal people — they do not do that." SIG trains their junior traders with poker, spending 2hrs/day turning over cards after every hand, justifying every decision quantitatively AND qualitatively. 15 years later, Andrew views prediction markets the same way: read who's on the other side, size accordingly, fold when the whale comes back at you 10x. We cover: - Why SIG pays junior traders to play poker for 2hrs/day — & what happens after every single hand - The "one eye on the market, always" attention tax that destroys most people's careers - How to find edge in prediction markets by asking: who am I actually trading against? - Why meme-heavy, overhyped markets (Taylor Swift at the Super Bowl) might be the juiciest trades - The insider trading debate in prediction markets — & why it's "socially corrosive" - Floor trading vs. upstairs quant: why the transition saved his career - 40 connections after ~15 years at one of the world's best firms — the hidden cost of prop trading - Why he doesn't have collision insurance on his car (& the EV math behind it) Thank you so much Andrew Courtney for coming on the pod! Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 05:00 Floor trading vs. electronic trading 06:28 What makes an upstairs trader 10:16 Poker as trader training 13:00 Thinking in bets as a mental framework 15:11 Decision trees in real life 16:40 Where prediction markets actually have edge 19:00 Why the LLM forecasting layer falls short 19:40 Liquidity incentives and trading low-volume markets 22:00 Limiting downside even when the model is wrong 24:32 Executing in illiquid markets 25:44 Fair value vs. directional conviction 27:11 Bayesian updating when liquidity responds 28:40 Fading hype and crowded narratives 31:07 Longshot bias vs. fanbase bias 34:20 How to judge whether you really have edge 36:40 Building analytics tools for prediction markets 38:20 The temporary edge for smart amateurs 40:35 Where prediction markets fit best 41:20 Markets that shouldn’t exist 43:20 Why insider trading corrodes incentives 46:52 Are prediction markets a net good or bad 50:47 Minimizing degeneracy and maximizing signal 53:32 A simple EV mindset anyone can use
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Inside the mind of an ex-SIG quant trader who can't turn off the EV brain - even for his kid's school choice Andrew Courtney (Andrew Courtney) ran the International ETFs Trading Desk at Susquehanna International Group for ~15 years before leaving in 2023. He now runs Kalshionomics (Kalshinomics), a prediction markets analytics tool, and writes the Whirligig Bear, one of the sharpest prediction markets Substacks out there. "I think of everything as a bet. I kind of don't understand how you talk to normal people — they do not do that." SIG trains their junior traders with poker, spending 2hrs/day turning over cards after every hand, justifying every decision quantitatively AND qualitatively. 15 years later, Andrew views prediction markets the same way: read who's on the other side, size accordingly, fold when the whale comes back at you 10x. We cover: - Why SIG pays junior traders to play poker for 2hrs/day — & what happens after every single hand - The "one eye on the market, always" attention tax that destroys most people's careers - How to find edge in prediction markets by asking: who am I actually trading against? - Why meme-heavy, overhyped markets (Taylor Swift at the Super Bowl) might be the juiciest trades - The insider trading debate in prediction markets — & why it's "socially corrosive" - Floor trading vs. upstairs quant: why the transition saved his career - 40 connections after ~15 years at one of the world's best firms — the hidden cost of prop trading - Why he doesn't have collision insurance on his car (& the EV math behind it) Thank you so much Andrew Courtney for coming on the pod! Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 05:00 Floor trading vs. electronic trading 06:28 What makes an upstairs trader 10:16 Poker as trader training 13:00 Thinking in bets as a mental framework 15:11 Decision trees in real life 16:40 Where prediction markets actually have edge 19:00 Why the LLM forecasting layer falls short 19:40 Liquidity incentives and trading low-volume markets 22:00 Limiting downside even when the model is wrong 24:32 Executing in illiquid markets 25:44 Fair value vs. directional conviction 27:11 Bayesian updating when liquidity responds 28:40 Fading hype and crowded narratives 31:07 Longshot bias vs. fanbase bias 34:20 How to judge whether you really have edge 36:40 Building analytics tools for prediction markets 38:20 The temporary edge for smart amateurs 40:35 Where prediction markets fit best 41:20 Markets that shouldn’t exist 43:20 Why insider trading corrodes incentives 46:52 Are prediction markets a net good or bad 50:47 Minimizing degeneracy and maximizing signal 53:32 A simple EV mindset anyone can use

Ethan Kho

436,074 просмотров • 6 месяцев назад