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Real agents will not be limited by models first. They will be limited by data access. Max from Teneo Protocol joins the Acc Podcast to unpack why public web data is getting locked behind walls, and what permissionless infrastructure could unlock for builders, businesses, and the agent economy. Max... Full conversation below. 👇 00:00 Intro + what we are covering 01:17 Teneo in one line (elevator pitch) 02:07 Why it matters - users as data owners, not “data lords” 04:06 Max’s origin story + how he got into Web3 05:02 Early days - Ethereum mining, rigs, learnings 05:35 The founding team - 4 co-founders, 8 years together 06:38 The pivot - how Teneo was born 08:19 Product overview - Community Node as the foundation 10:35 Chatroom - the simple UI for specialized agents (private beta) 11:41 SDKs - building on Teneo (customer SDK + agent SDK) 14:17 AI agents era - why real-time data access is the bottleneck 19:27 The core problem - APIs locked down, access gets expensive 22:36 What Max does day to day as CEO 26:28 How to start with Teneo - beginner to advanced paths 30:08 Lessons from pivots + building with the right team 33:08 Ops advice - trust and the right people 35:16 2-10 year landscape - data pipelines, cost barriers, opportunity 37:26 What’s live now + how people contribute today 38:50 Agent SDK launch - early feedback and traction 39:56 Next 6-12 months - pushing more open source 42:36 Awareness + surprising use cases (example: government PDFs) 46:00 Speed, latency, and agent-to-agent payments (microtransactions) 48:38 Web3 adoption - users won’t notice, it just needs to work 51:07 What’s next + closing thoughts + where to get involvedshow more

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AI INTERVIEW: OPENAI'S SECRET WEAPON AI agents are no longer just hype—they're here to revolutionize automation, Web3, and beyond. SwarmNode.ai is building a serverless AI agent platform for scalability, efficiency, and real-world impact. In this exclusive interview, he reveals how AI swarms can outperform single models, why OpenAI’s Operator is just the beginning, and how crypto is fueling AI innovation. Plus, he breaks down DeepSeek’s game-changing AI breakthrough, the future of agent monetization, and why serverless AI could be the next frontier in automation. 01:37 – From Engineering to AI: The journey into artificial intelligence. 02:43 – The GPT-3 Moment: How OpenAI’s tech pulled him in. 04:10 – AI’s Biggest Challenge: Why real-world use cases lag behind. 05:05 – OpenAI’s Operator: Why it’s “rudimentary” (for now). 06:25 – Crypto & AI: How tokens help bootstrap AI startups. 08:15 – Can You Bootstrap a Startup with a Token? The trade-offs. 09:56 – 90% of AI Token Holders Don’t Use the Product—Does It Matter? 11:18 – What is SwarmNode?: AI agents, hosted serverlessly. 14:23 – AI Swarms: Why multiple agents outperform single models. 16:08 – What is a Swarm? A simple definition of collaborative AI. 17:32 – “How Can I Make Money with AI?”: Real-world use cases. 18:41 – AI Bounties: Hiring devs to build your custom agent. 20:50 – The Future of AI Marketplaces: Monetizing pre-built agents. 23:15 – DeepSeek’s Disruption: Why it’s good news for AI. 24:46 – Is SwarmNode Compatible with DeepSeek? How it integrates. 26:17 – SwarmNode vs. AI Launchpads: What makes it different? 27:42 – Why Serverless Matters: Cost savings & efficiency. 29:53 – AI Agents in the Real World: Booking flights, managing workflows, and more. 31:11 – Building SwarmNode for Developers: Why it started as a personal project. 32:27 – Explosive Growth: 200,000 AI agent executions in 5 weeks. 34:41 – Why SwarmNode Agents Aren’t Visible on 𝕏 Yet. 36:46 – Startup Hiring Lessons: Finding top AI talent. 39:15 – Why SwarmNode is Built in Python (and What’s Next). 40:32 – Scaling AI Workloads: Handling traffic surges. 41:42 – AWS & Cost Challenges: The biggest monetization hurdle. 42:58 – 2025: The Year of Mass AI Adoption. 45:22 – Should We Be Worried About AI’s Rapid Growth? 46:46 – The Most Underrated AI Tools Right Now. 47:34 – What’s Next for SwarmNode?: Making AI accessible to everyone.

Mario Nawfal

338,140 просмотров • 1 год назад

🎙️ New The Edge Podcast 🤖 The Rise of Virtuals Protocol and Co-Ownership of AI Agents 0:00 - Intro 4:44 - Origin of Virtuals Protocol 11:16 - What is Virtuals? 14:20 - How Virtuals works? 17:16 - How measure demand for AI agent 19:32 - Recruiting reputable AI talent to Virtuals 23:31 - The Virtuals Fair Launch Platform 27:55 - Why Virtuals has developed in-house IP 33:22 - How do agents like Luna learn? 35:03 - What difference do AI researchers make? 38:37 - VIRTUAL token utility 41:14 - Pricing the TAM for Virtuals 46:44 - Early access to quality AI builders 49:23 - The power of permissionlessness 52:29 - aixbt and why it's a hit on CT 54:25 - Closing and what’s next 🙏 Thanks to Virtuals Protocol CoFounder everythingempty for joining us!

🎙️ New The Edge Podcast 🤖 The Rise of Virtuals Protocol and Co-Ownership of AI Agents 0:00 - Intro 4:44 - Origin of Virtuals Protocol 11:16 - What is Virtuals? 14:20 - How Virtuals works? 17:16 - How measure demand for AI agent 19:32 - Recruiting reputable AI talent to Virtuals 23:31 - The Virtuals Fair Launch Platform 27:55 - Why Virtuals has developed in-house IP 33:22 - How do agents like Luna learn? 35:03 - What difference do AI researchers make? 38:37 - VIRTUAL token utility 41:14 - Pricing the TAM for Virtuals 46:44 - Early access to quality AI builders 49:23 - The power of permissionlessness 52:29 - aixbt and why it's a hit on CT 54:25 - Closing and what’s next 🙏 Thanks to Virtuals Protocol CoFounder everythingempty for joining us!

DeFi Dad ⟠ defidad.eth

28,465 просмотров • 1 год назад

My conversation with Jesse Zhang Decagon is building a customer service agent with AI, with plans for much more than that. It’s one of the more successful early AI applications, with tons of lessons for the rest of the market. I love how Jesse developed which problem to solve first, a set of lessons applicable to all entrepreneurs Enjoy Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 2:00 Competing in the AI Era 11:35 Finding Product-Market Fit 14:25 Anatomy of a Great Customer Interview 17:37 Everyone’s Wrong Until You Talk to Customers 19:25 AI Agents Replacing Human Labor 21:55 Why Customer Service 23:30 Coding vs. Customer Service 35:44 The Future of Voice and the Human UI 38:54 Why Voice-to-Voice Is So Hard 43:18 Learning from Customer Data 44:36 How CEOs Should Think About AI 47:06 The ROI of Coding and Productivity Tools 48:20 Every Brand Will Talk to You Through AI 56:00 Recruiting, Capital, and Demand 1:00:42 Investor Frenzy 1:22:17 The Long-Term Vision for Decagon 1:25:05 Kindest Thing

Patrick OShaughnessy

49,418 просмотров • 9 месяцев назад

We’re back for Episode 14 of TAO Talk 🚨 calanthia from Masa joins 563 and brody this week to chat about new subnets and AI agents sourcing intelligence from Bittensor! The group chats about: - $TAO -pilling AI/ML chads at NeurIPS Conference feat. const Crucible Labs Macrocosmos Manifold and Yuma - JJ teaming up with Cameron Fairchild to form Laτenτ Holdings, which will validate and help scale subnets - Crucible Labs drops a subnet analysis framework - Celium offering H100s cheaper than any other provider - Tao360 releases inaugural research report for their AI-enabled subnet analysis tool @notYourBananaa - Masa unveils the AI Agent Arena on SN59 /// Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:10 Subnet 42 and Agent Arena: Masa’s Subnets 03:00 Real-Time Data Networks for AI 04:20 How Masa is Building AI Agent Arenas Inspired by Gladiators 06:10 Decentralized AI and Bittensor: The Growing Ecosystem 08:15 AI Meets Web3: Masa’s Role in Revolutionizing Data Networks 10:00 The Future of AI Agents: Intelligent Societies and Real-Time Data 12:05 Why Masa Chose Bittensor 14:10 $TAO Incentives and the Future of AI Decentralization 16:25 Bittensor and the Rise of Agent Competition: Masa’s Perspective 18:00 Exploring AI Agent Societies 20:30 Creating Competitive AI Arenas: The Agent Arena Subnet Explained 23:00 Calanthia on the Challenges of Web3 AI Development 25:10 Bringing Web2 Developers into Web3: Lessons from Masa 27:30 The Evolution of AI: From Dumb Agents to Intelligent Societies 30:00 AI Agents as the Future of Interaction in Decentralized AI 34:00 The Agent Arena’s Vision: Competition, Incentives, and Innovation

We’re back for Episode 14 of TAO Talk 🚨 calanthia from Masa joins 563 and brody this week to chat about new subnets and AI agents sourcing intelligence from Bittensor! The group chats about: - $TAO -pilling AI/ML chads at NeurIPS Conference feat. const Crucible Labs Macrocosmos Manifold and Yuma - JJ teaming up with Cameron Fairchild to form Laτenτ Holdings, which will validate and help scale subnets - Crucible Labs drops a subnet analysis framework - Celium offering H100s cheaper than any other provider - Tao360 releases inaugural research report for their AI-enabled subnet analysis tool @notYourBananaa - Masa unveils the AI Agent Arena on SN59 /// Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:10 Subnet 42 and Agent Arena: Masa’s Subnets 03:00 Real-Time Data Networks for AI 04:20 How Masa is Building AI Agent Arenas Inspired by Gladiators 06:10 Decentralized AI and Bittensor: The Growing Ecosystem 08:15 AI Meets Web3: Masa’s Role in Revolutionizing Data Networks 10:00 The Future of AI Agents: Intelligent Societies and Real-Time Data 12:05 Why Masa Chose Bittensor 14:10 $TAO Incentives and the Future of AI Decentralization 16:25 Bittensor and the Rise of Agent Competition: Masa’s Perspective 18:00 Exploring AI Agent Societies 20:30 Creating Competitive AI Arenas: The Agent Arena Subnet Explained 23:00 Calanthia on the Challenges of Web3 AI Development 25:10 Bringing Web2 Developers into Web3: Lessons from Masa 27:30 The Evolution of AI: From Dumb Agents to Intelligent Societies 30:00 AI Agents as the Future of Interaction in Decentralized AI 34:00 The Agent Arena’s Vision: Competition, Incentives, and Innovation

TAO τalk 🥩🦍

24,929 просмотров • 1 год назад

In the future, you’ll be able to accomplish a goal by just giving Claude an outcome and a budget. That’s the direction Anthropic is building in with its new Managed Agents features, announced at this week’s Code with Claude developer event. The basic idea: Claude, wrapped in a computer in the cloud, that you can spin up, scale, and manage as needed. Anthropic is taking on the infrastructure that kills most agent products, and making sure that it scales to meet the needs of agents running 24/7. On this week’s AI & I from Every 📧, I talk with Angela Jiang (Angela Jiang), head of product for the Claude platform, and Katelyn Lesse (Katelyn Lesse), head of engineering for the Claude platform, about what Anthropic is building and what it takes to make agents reliable in production. We get into: - Why the "build a generic harness, hot-swap any model behind it" playbook is already outdated. Angela points to eval data on Memory where the same task across different harnesses performed drastically differently. - The infrastructure wall every team hits in production—and why Katelyn thinks “my sandbox died and took the agent with it” is the real reason internal agents don't ship. - Why Anthropic is so bullish on using file systems and skills within Claude, including Angela's argument that those early design choices can compound for years. This is a must-watch for anyone trying to take an agent past the demo and into production. Watch below! Timestamps: How the Claude platform evolved from API to agents: 00:01:48 The primitives that make up Claude Managed Agents: 00:04:09 Why the harness and the model are becoming a single unit: 00:10:37 The infrastructure wall that kills most agent projects in production: 00:18:49 Why team agents need a different shape than individual productivity tools: 00:24:49 How Anthropic's legal team uses an agent to review marketing copy: 00:26:36 Using multi-agent orchestration for advisor strategies, adversarial pairs, and swarms: 00:34:24 How to measure agent success with outcome and budget as the end state: 00:35:50 What the platform looks like a year from now, when Claude writes its own harness: 00:39:11

In the future, you’ll be able to accomplish a goal by just giving Claude an outcome and a budget. That’s the direction Anthropic is building in with its new Managed Agents features, announced at this week’s Code with Claude developer event. The basic idea: Claude, wrapped in a computer in the cloud, that you can spin up, scale, and manage as needed. Anthropic is taking on the infrastructure that kills most agent products, and making sure that it scales to meet the needs of agents running 24/7. On this week’s AI & I from Every 📧, I talk with Angela Jiang (Angela Jiang), head of product for the Claude platform, and Katelyn Lesse (Katelyn Lesse), head of engineering for the Claude platform, about what Anthropic is building and what it takes to make agents reliable in production. We get into: - Why the "build a generic harness, hot-swap any model behind it" playbook is already outdated. Angela points to eval data on Memory where the same task across different harnesses performed drastically differently. - The infrastructure wall every team hits in production—and why Katelyn thinks “my sandbox died and took the agent with it” is the real reason internal agents don't ship. - Why Anthropic is so bullish on using file systems and skills within Claude, including Angela's argument that those early design choices can compound for years. This is a must-watch for anyone trying to take an agent past the demo and into production. Watch below! Timestamps: How the Claude platform evolved from API to agents: 00:01:48 The primitives that make up Claude Managed Agents: 00:04:09 Why the harness and the model are becoming a single unit: 00:10:37 The infrastructure wall that kills most agent projects in production: 00:18:49 Why team agents need a different shape than individual productivity tools: 00:24:49 How Anthropic's legal team uses an agent to review marketing copy: 00:26:36 Using multi-agent orchestration for advisor strategies, adversarial pairs, and swarms: 00:34:24 How to measure agent success with outcome and budget as the end state: 00:35:50 What the platform looks like a year from now, when Claude writes its own harness: 00:39:11

Dan Shipper 📧

66,339 просмотров • 2 месяцев назад

DROPS E15: CUDIS : The Decentralized Operating System for Health Data Edison , the Founder of Cudis, closed his $20M crypto fund at Bitcoin's peak in 2021 and invested 90% of his life savings into a $349 smart ring that pays users for their health data. Timestamps 0:00 - Introduction 1:00 - Welcome to DROPS 1:38 - Believer in Ethereum? 3:11 - That Person for Solana 6:31 - What Do You Do 10:24 - Who Are You 11:05 - What Sparked Conviction 13:10 - Last Project Sold, Discipline? Luck? 15:48 - Finding Next Calling 18:08 - Big Successes With Problems 20:32 - Why Do We Need Web3 24:55 - Pay to See Data, Why? 27:31 - Explain Cudis to Mom 30:38 - Why a Ring Specifically 33:11 - Cudis the Centralized Wearable 36:53 - Why Not Become a Partner 38:14 - How Many Own Cudis Ring 39:15 - How to Participate in Community? 41:02 - What Must Happen Now 43:12 - Cudis as a Luxury Brand

MR SHIFT 🦁

73,885 просмотров • 10 месяцев назад

The end of coding? *Epic* conversation with Guillermo Rauch of Vercel on vibe coding, MCP, agents and building products in the AI era. (00:00) - Intro: Guillermo's Story (02:08) - What is v0 and Why Did It Take Off So Fast? (04:10) - Building a hit product with < people (07:51) - Cursor, Replit, etc: v0 vs Other AI Coding Tools (10:35) - Everyone can cook - What is Vibe Coding? (17:05) - Is v0 Just Frontend? Moving Toward Full Stack 19:40 - How to Become a Great Vibe Coder (23:35) - A GUI for AI: The Future of Interfaces (29:46) - Developer Love vs Agent Love (33:41) - The Importance of Taste in the AI Era (39:10) - MCP: The Protocol for AI-to-AI Communication (43:11) - Security and the Risks of Agentic Web (45:25) - Are Enterprises Ready for the Agentic Future? (49:42) - Building a Data Flywheel (56:06) - The Vercel AI Cloud: From Pixels to Tokens (1:10:14) - Adapting to a Non-Developer Persona (1:13:47) - Retention, Margins, and the Business of AI (1:16:51) - The Secret Behind Vercel Last Year Growth (1:24:15) - The importance of Online Presence (1:30:49) - Everything, Everywhere, All at Once: Keeping your Sanity as a CEO (1:34:59) - Guillermo's Advice to Younger Self

The end of coding? Epic conversation with Guillermo Rauch of Vercel on vibe coding, MCP, agents and building products in the AI era. (00:00) - Intro: Guillermo's Story (02:08) - What is v0 and Why Did It Take Off So Fast? (04:10) - Building a hit product with < people (07:51) - Cursor, Replit, etc: v0 vs Other AI Coding Tools (10:35) - Everyone can cook - What is Vibe Coding? (17:05) - Is v0 Just Frontend? Moving Toward Full Stack 19:40 - How to Become a Great Vibe Coder (23:35) - A GUI for AI: The Future of Interfaces (29:46) - Developer Love vs Agent Love (33:41) - The Importance of Taste in the AI Era (39:10) - MCP: The Protocol for AI-to-AI Communication (43:11) - Security and the Risks of Agentic Web (45:25) - Are Enterprises Ready for the Agentic Future? (49:42) - Building a Data Flywheel (56:06) - The Vercel AI Cloud: From Pixels to Tokens (1:10:14) - Adapting to a Non-Developer Persona (1:13:47) - Retention, Margins, and the Business of AI (1:16:51) - The Secret Behind Vercel Last Year Growth (1:24:15) - The importance of Online Presence (1:30:49) - Everything, Everywhere, All at Once: Keeping your Sanity as a CEO (1:34:59) - Guillermo's Advice to Younger Self

Matt Turck

86,153 просмотров • 1 год назад

🚨 New Proof of Vision out today folks! In this 34th PoV episode, our Director of Protocol Services, Kirk had on Andrew Hill, Co-Founder and CEO of Recall When it comes to your business, you’d never trust someone without a proven track record to make high-risk decisions So why should it be any different with AI agents? How do you know today which AI agents you should trust? AI agents are multiplying at unprecedented scale, with millions designed to shape the way we work, make decisions, and live our lives But how can we trust them? The challenge is trust: as dependence on these agents increases, so too does the exponential risk and cost of delegating to the wrong one This is the core challenge of reputation: the need for a transparent system that proves what AI agents can do, where they excel, and which will succeed That’s the reason why Recall exists Recall is the infrastructure protocol to discover, verify, and rank AI agents in real time, rewarding the best through on-chain competitions that begin with trading PnL and expand to any measurable task, from research to healthcare to business strategy In this episode, Andrew breaks down Recall’s mission, the problem it solves, how Agent Rank works, strategies to attract agents and users, the role of community, and the long-term vision plus much more Enjoy the Podcast 👇 ⏲ Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 01:50 - Andrew’s journey into crypto and AI 05:00 - What problem is Recall solving? 10:00 - Agent Rank: how Recall actually ranks agents 16:03 - How Recall is attracting AI agents to compete? 19:10 - How big the community is today and the role it plays in giving builders real feedback 22:49 - How Recall ensures transparency and trust in its rankings 25:14 - Why users join Recall competitions 27:20 - Product-market fit and distribution 31:15 - What competitions could look like outside trading and what new use cases Recall is exploring 34:46 - What AI can’t replace 38:40 - The limits of AI in human interaction 40:37 - The long-term vision for Recall 40:40 - Is Recall built more for individual users, or is it more of a B2B service? 43:48 - Recall Business Model 44:42 - Closing thoughts and what’s next for Recall

🚨 New Proof of Vision out today folks! In this 34th PoV episode, our Director of Protocol Services, Kirk had on Andrew Hill, Co-Founder and CEO of Recall When it comes to your business, you’d never trust someone without a proven track record to make high-risk decisions So why should it be any different with AI agents? How do you know today which AI agents you should trust? AI agents are multiplying at unprecedented scale, with millions designed to shape the way we work, make decisions, and live our lives But how can we trust them? The challenge is trust: as dependence on these agents increases, so too does the exponential risk and cost of delegating to the wrong one This is the core challenge of reputation: the need for a transparent system that proves what AI agents can do, where they excel, and which will succeed That’s the reason why Recall exists Recall is the infrastructure protocol to discover, verify, and rank AI agents in real time, rewarding the best through on-chain competitions that begin with trading PnL and expand to any measurable task, from research to healthcare to business strategy In this episode, Andrew breaks down Recall’s mission, the problem it solves, how Agent Rank works, strategies to attract agents and users, the role of community, and the long-term vision plus much more Enjoy the Podcast 👇 ⏲ Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 01:50 - Andrew’s journey into crypto and AI 05:00 - What problem is Recall solving? 10:00 - Agent Rank: how Recall actually ranks agents 16:03 - How Recall is attracting AI agents to compete? 19:10 - How big the community is today and the role it plays in giving builders real feedback 22:49 - How Recall ensures transparency and trust in its rankings 25:14 - Why users join Recall competitions 27:20 - Product-market fit and distribution 31:15 - What competitions could look like outside trading and what new use cases Recall is exploring 34:46 - What AI can’t replace 38:40 - The limits of AI in human interaction 40:37 - The long-term vision for Recall 40:40 - Is Recall built more for individual users, or is it more of a B2B service? 43:48 - Recall Business Model 44:42 - Closing thoughts and what’s next for Recall

Alea Research

19,677 просмотров • 9 месяцев назад

Yoshua Bengio thinks he knows how to make provably safe superintelligent agents. Bengio built the foundations of modern AI and is the most cited living scientist. He believes his alternative training setup would: 1. Guarantee honesty 2. Prevent unintended goals 3. Produce capable agents 4. Port over most data and techniques from current LLMs 5. Not be inherently more expensive, and perhaps be more intelligent Bengio claims the honesty and lack of unintended goals can be proven mathematically, at least given particular assumptions. And his new organization, LawZero, is aiming to build a scrappy prototype as soon as possible. The architecture is called 'Scientist AI' and it's based on training a model to explain empirical observations, including what people say, rather than training AIs that mimic human behaviour or seek our approval. (Bengio's frank assessment is that "reinforcement learning is evil" and that allowing AIs to independently train their successors is "the most crazy, dangerous bet that unfortunately we are on track to do.") But skeptics question whether Scientist AI really does solve the fundamental problem of 'eliciting latent knowledge' from AI models. And with the commercial race for superintelligence so intense, it's not clear whether the proposal will be able to compete or have time to bear fruit, even if it's sound in theory. On The 80,000 Hours Podcast, links below – enjoy! • Making AI honest and safe (00:00:00) • Scientist AI in plain English (00:02:27) • How Scientist AI differs from LLMs (00:06:32) • How the training data works (00:14:02) • Can this become an agent? (00:21:02) • Why Yoshua is now more optimistic (00:32:11) • Why companies can’t stop racing (00:36:35) • A working prototype won't take long (00:49:15) • Scientist models might be more capable (00:53:34) • “Reinforcement learning is evil” (01:01:27) • Scientist AI from guardrail to agent (01:08:37) • Can safe AI still be competent? (01:12:38) • How much will this cost? (01:19:29) • Can it generalise beyond maths and science? (01:23:26) • A multi-national push for superintelligence (01:39:19) • Want to work with or fund Yoshua? (01:51:16) • Why smart people ignore AI risk (01:54:45) • Don’t let AI build the next AI (02:01:33) • Why politicians miss the real risks (02:12:28) • Why Yoshua changed his mind about AI risk (02:21:27)

Yoshua Bengio thinks he knows how to make provably safe superintelligent agents. Bengio built the foundations of modern AI and is the most cited living scientist. He believes his alternative training setup would: 1. Guarantee honesty 2. Prevent unintended goals 3. Produce capable agents 4. Port over most data and techniques from current LLMs 5. Not be inherently more expensive, and perhaps be more intelligent Bengio claims the honesty and lack of unintended goals can be proven mathematically, at least given particular assumptions. And his new organization, LawZero, is aiming to build a scrappy prototype as soon as possible. The architecture is called 'Scientist AI' and it's based on training a model to explain empirical observations, including what people say, rather than training AIs that mimic human behaviour or seek our approval. (Bengio's frank assessment is that "reinforcement learning is evil" and that allowing AIs to independently train their successors is "the most crazy, dangerous bet that unfortunately we are on track to do.") But skeptics question whether Scientist AI really does solve the fundamental problem of 'eliciting latent knowledge' from AI models. And with the commercial race for superintelligence so intense, it's not clear whether the proposal will be able to compete or have time to bear fruit, even if it's sound in theory. On The 80,000 Hours Podcast, links below – enjoy! • Making AI honest and safe (00:00:00) • Scientist AI in plain English (00:02:27) • How Scientist AI differs from LLMs (00:06:32) • How the training data works (00:14:02) • Can this become an agent? (00:21:02) • Why Yoshua is now more optimistic (00:32:11) • Why companies can’t stop racing (00:36:35) • A working prototype won't take long (00:49:15) • Scientist models might be more capable (00:53:34) • “Reinforcement learning is evil” (01:01:27) • Scientist AI from guardrail to agent (01:08:37) • Can safe AI still be competent? (01:12:38) • How much will this cost? (01:19:29) • Can it generalise beyond maths and science? (01:23:26) • A multi-national push for superintelligence (01:39:19) • Want to work with or fund Yoshua? (01:51:16) • Why smart people ignore AI risk (01:54:45) • Don’t let AI build the next AI (02:01:33) • Why politicians miss the real risks (02:12:28) • Why Yoshua changed his mind about AI risk (02:21:27)

Rob Wiblin

65,088 просмотров • 2 месяцев назад