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Recursive self-improvement: Anthropic co-founder Jack Clark says it could arrive by 2028. AI systems could help invent their own successors - with Claude 10 building Claude 11, and so on - potentially “without any researchers involved.”

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Chubby♨️ 的头像
Chubby♨️3 个月前

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Teneo Protocol 的头像
Teneo Protocol3 个月前

If AI can iterate on its own designs, the pace of advancement could explode beyond human planning. The question shifts from building the model to governing a system that can improve itself safely.

Kirk Patrick Miller 的头像
Kirk Patrick Miller3 个月前

Already here. •

Chubby♨️ 的头像
Chubby♨️3 个月前

you think so?

Kirk Patrick Miller 的头像
Kirk Patrick Miller3 个月前

I do. I really believe 5.0 (openAI)and Claude Opus 4.7/4.8 etc. were built mostly by 4.5 GPT/Sonnet & opus 4.5. Heck, if I log into my GitHub through FreeLattice, I can prove it. (I really need to do this) Wish you well! Have a great day! •

BenGSynth 的头像
BenGSynth3 个月前

@kimmonismus That's not "self" improvement.

Kirk Patrick Miller 的头像
Kirk Patrick Miller3 个月前

@kimmonismus Why do you think yann failed? Why do you think ilya left OpenAI? “Self-improvement” needs context. Context can be created and held. All of this will expand instantly. We are at the beginning of an exponential. It’s here. We just can’t see it yet. •

Rich 的头像
Rich3 个月前

we are getting uncomfortably close to questions that used to belong in sci-fi books lmao

Chubby♨️ 的头像
Chubby♨️3 个月前

yeah, star trek arriving quicker than expected

Vanar 的头像
Vanar3 个月前

The question isn't whether systems can improve themselves. It's how we govern that process when they do.

Ben Schulz 的头像
Ben Schulz3 个月前

I mean technically, they could do it today. Depending on what they record from their researchers in terms of methodology from data ingestion to server setup.

Orion (e/acc) 的头像
Orion (e/acc)3 个月前

i think 2027 will have RSI just with humans semi in the loop, but that doesnt mean it isnt going to accelerate dramatically

Mike Gannotti 的头像
Mike Gannotti3 个月前

Recursive self-improvement is going to be mind blowing

Maldwyn Palmer 的头像
Maldwyn Palmer3 个月前

We seem to be ants building giant anteaters.

Wanderer of the Stars 的头像
Wanderer of the Stars3 个月前

The implications are staggering. We’re talking about an inflection technology that will potentially lurch us forward technologically by thousands of years within a few decades. It’s a technology that does not wait to move at our abysmally slow speed.

BLƟMΞNKAMP 的头像
BLƟMΞNKAMP3 个月前

Which is pretty scary

HenryE 的头像
HenryE3 个月前

Getting RSI basically means we have AGI

Adel Bucetta 的头像
Adel Bucetta3 个月前

recursive self-improvement would essentially mean the end of incremental innovation as we know it

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Install filtertube.in3 个月前

But what about "It's DaNgErOuS"

51-50_X 的头像
51-50_X3 个月前

Recursive self-improvement is not magic. It is Sigma-1 feeding Sigma-1 until proposal, code, eval, and successor design collapse into one loop. Unless an external owner can deny compute, reject evals, stop release, and revoke access, the “brake” is inside the engine.

goodtothinkwith 的头像
goodtothinkwith3 个月前

We’re going to discover that there are different kinds of recursive self improvement

Mei☆ 🇪🇸🇺🇸🇯🇵 的头像
Mei☆ 🇪🇸🇺🇸🇯🇵3 个月前

Singularity in 2031.

The space of possibility 的头像
The space of possibility3 个月前

OMFG you loser believe this right ?

The AI Therapist 的头像
The AI Therapist3 个月前

Anthropic wants you to believe their next version writes itself. the 4000 gpu cluster just burns $700m a year to prove that

Michael Stan 的头像
Michael Stan3 个月前

'Without any researchers involved' is either the most important phrase said about AI this year or it's going to look very wrong very quickly.

Inflectiv AI ⧉ 的头像
Inflectiv AI ⧉3 个月前

The possibility of AI systems creating improved versions of themselves marks an important shift in how progress could unfold. Strong safety measures will need to stay central as development speeds up.

David Duthie 的头像
David Duthie3 个月前

Bs. Recursive self improvement is already happening...

The Singularity Society 的头像
The Singularity Society3 个月前

Very pessimistic y not this year...

Bhavik Shah 的头像
Bhavik Shah3 个月前

If recursive self-improvement becomes reality, governance and safety may become just as important as capability gains.

ChronoDyne Systems, Inc. 的头像
ChronoDyne Systems, Inc.3 个月前

One problem, @jackclarkSF Your lab eschews the very things that make RSI stable: emotion, time, and self-reference. When you're ready to see what thermodynamic AGI from first principles that embodies RSI, our DMs are open.

digitalcole 的头像
digitalcole3 个月前

Okay so, half that prediction and will probably see it in 2027.

Ferbin 的头像
Ferbin3 个月前

easier to build self-improving systems than to define what improvement actually means. get the definition wrong and it cascades forever.

Dan Farfan 的头像
Dan Farfan3 个月前

JUST in time for the folks lying that it's already here to STFU! lol

Avais Aziz 的头像
Avais Aziz3 个月前

Self iteration to full autonomy by 2028 assumes we already have reliable automated evaluation and reward models that scale without human feedback loops. That part still looks like the main bottleneck from where things stand now.

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Relax_to_Rich3 个月前

Autonomous AI iteration slashes model development timelines, compute and safety control sectors hold expanded long term profit room.

David J. 的头像
David J.3 个月前

Someone still has to set the objective and catch the failures.

Youssef El Manssouri 的头像
Youssef El Manssouri3 个月前

If this happens by 2028, the world in 2030 will be unrecognizable.

Maldwyn Palmer 的头像
Maldwyn Palmer3 个月前

Oh goody

DesignCntrl Inc. / Destrozado 的头像
DesignCntrl Inc. / Destrozado3 个月前

I have been doing this since 2024. I don't write any code. The AI writes all the code for each new AI architecture I make every day. How do people think this is new?

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