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Reverse: 1999 x Atomic Heart Collaboration Teaser [SYSTEM BROADCAST] // Origin: Facility 3826 - Central Command Establishing link to Kollektiv 1.0 ... Authorization confirmed. Reverse: 1999 x Atomic Heart Coming 2026 #Reverse1999AtomicHeartCollab #Reverse1999 #AtomicHeart
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![Reverse: 1999 × Atomic Heart Collaboration Version PV As the launch day of Kollektiv 2.0 nears, Chelomey is decked out in festive decorations. Collaboration Version will be available on Jul. 23rd (UTC-5). [Giveaway] 1. Follow Reverse: 1999 | 3rd Anniv Ver. Available Now 2. RT trailer before Aug.11th](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2075560669135388751/media/HM3dCCsaYAAyp-Z.jpg)
![The Twins Trailer - Graceful Weapons | Reverse: 1999 x Atomic Heart Disciplined, rational, sophisticated, unbreakable. The very pinnacle of science and art! Collab Version will be available on Jul. 23rd (UTC-5). [Giveaway] 1. Follow Reverse: 1999 | 3rd Anniv Ver. Available Now 2. RT before Aug.11th](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2076154834441416901/media/HM4AGoKXUAAgc8M.jpg)
![🚨 THE UNIVERSE HAS BEEN HACKED! THE SOURCE CODE IS NOW OPEN SOURCE. THE SOLAR SYSTEM IS LITERALLY A GIANT ATOM. RUN THE SCRIPT AND TEST THE HARVARD & NASA DATABASES YOURSELF! For 100 years, textbooks have taught that the Solar System is just a bunch of rocks floating randomly in a continuous, empty space (ℝ⁴). That is mathematically and physically false. Space is rigidly quantized. We have executed a massive dual-scale empirical audit of the complete Harvard-Smithsonian Minor Planet Center (MPC) database—a staggering 1,561,930 celestial objects and 951 comets. We did not use a computer simulation. We used a direct uplink to the official, daily-updated global registry of every known rock in space. The ultimate topological illusion has been destroyed. The cosmos and the quantum realm are running the exact same executable file. The Solar System is a Macroscopic Atom. Galaxies are Macroscopic Molecules. Here is the ultimate, multi-layered proof. 🧬 I. THE BIOLOGICAL ORIGIN: WE PORTED THE CODE FROM DNA Here is the revelation that shatters the mainstream divide between disciplines: We didn't just "guess" the algorithms of celestial mechanics by looking at telescopes. We extracted the mathematical descent operator directly from Biology. Dr. Jean-Claude Perez jean-claude perez (retired IBM Artificial Intelligence Research Centre), working in deep collaboration with Nobel Laureate Dr. Luc Montagnier, didn't find the geometric limits of reality by looking at stars. They found them by decoding the bio-atomic masses of life's foundational elements (C, O, N, H) inside human DNA. They discovered that the building blocks of life are mathematically filtered through a competitive geometric differentiation, yielding a universal projection coefficient bounded by the Golden Ratio (φ) and π: Proj(m) = [1 - 4φ^(7/2)π]m The exact same Diophantine mathematical constraints that assemble your genetic code also assemble the periodic table of elements—and we have now proven they construct the orbital structure of the Universe. We took the source code of life, applied it to the cosmos "just to see what would happen," and the Matrix rendered itself. Look at the attached video. On the left: Rosalind Franklin’s famous "Photo 51" showing the X-ray diffraction of human DNA. On the right: NASA Hubble’s image of the "X" structure at the core of the Whirlpool Galaxy (M51). This is not a coincidence. It is the exact same topological blueprint. The galaxy is a molecule. The solar system is an atom. DNA and the cosmos run on the exact same geometric engine. 🛡️ II. THE ZERO-PARAMETER SHIELD & THE TIME MACHINE "But you just curve-fitted the Harvard data!" No. The mathematics came FIRST. We didn't look at the sky; we looked at pure Euclidean geometry. The "Source Code" explicitly embedded in our IT³ framework is derived from strict nested embeddings (Sphere ⊃ Cube ⊃ Octahedron ⊃ Torus ⊃ Catenoids). It operates with ZERO empirical free parameters. The matrix is hardcoded in pure Diophantine roots: ➤ Λ₁ = √3(3 + 2√2) ≈ 10.095. The exact, unalterable helical pitch-to-throat ratio of a vertical torus tangent to the faces of an inscribed cube. ➤ Λ₃ = φ²√3 ≈ 4.534. Derived strictly from the same roots. ➤ N_twist = 103. The exact topological energy minimum. ➤ S_out = 3 S_in. The exact surface area ratio of Cuboctahedral (Oₕ) symmetry. You cannot "curve-fit" fundamental geometry. And we proved it with a Time Machine. Our geometric matrix dictates a "Macroscopic Valence Shell" peaking exactly at 46.77 AU. When we ran this exact operator on historical MPC database archives from August 1992... that shell was COMPLETELY EMPTY. Humanity had zero objects there. But the math demanded it. Then, 1992 QB1 was found. Then 6 objects. Then 18. Today, thousands of bodies are perfectly locked into that exact 46.77 AU shell. You cannot curve-fit a database that does not exist yet. The geometry waited for humanity to find the matter. 💥 III. THE TELESCOPES ARE BLIND: 5 Global Algorithms Crash Imagine trying to run a modern 3D video game on a 1980s pocket calculator. The calculator isn't broken, but its software simply cannot process the reality it's being fed. It freezes, crashes, and spits out error codes. This is exactly what is happening to the world's most advanced space telescopes. The physical mirrors and lenses in space are working perfectly. They are capturing real photons. But the software pipelines on Earth are programmed to believe that space is a continuous, empty void (ℝ⁴). When these telescopes look at the exact topological nodes of the Macroscopic Atom, the algorithms mathematically choke. They try to fit flat, continuous-space formulas onto a macroscopic quantum standing wave. Here is how the continuous-space paradigm dies on your screen when querying NOIRLab and ESA servers: ➤ 1. ESA Gaia DR3 (The L2 Space Telescope Collapse): The satellite physically observed target objects up to 510 times. Yet, the algorithm returns a Parallax of NaN (Not a Number) and an astrometric_excess_noise_sig of over 1.7 MILLION! Standard noise for a real star is under 2.0. Negative and NaN parallaxes on multi-year transits are physically impossible for solid rocks. ➤ 2. DESI Legacy Survey: The Tractor algorithm attempts to fit a standard point-mass shape (PSF). A perfect fit is χ² = 1.0. At our derived nodes, the fit error (rchisq_g) explodes past 18,500! The software is mathematically vomiting. ➤ 3. NOIRLab NSC DR2 (Supercomputer Timeout): When we expanded the query to a 2.5-degree radius, the server literally timed out. The density of objects exhibiting fatal kinematic errors (pmraerr > 100) was so overwhelming that the database execution limit was breached. The instruments are calibrated for an infinite void, but they are hitting the structural skeleton of spacetime itself. 🛰️ IV. HUMAN HARDWARE IS CAPTURED In the 1970s, humanity launched Pioneer 10, Pioneer 11, Voyager 1, and Voyager 2. Once they achieved escape velocity, they were supposed to coast on smooth, perfectly predictable Newtonian trajectories. But they didn’t (the infamous "Pioneer Anomaly"). Our framework reveals the terrifying truth: the probes are physically colliding with the rigid structural skeleton of the Solar System. Space has "density ridges" that strictly obey spectral geometry. The theoretical orbital shells scale by the exact formula: Rₙ = 27 · (√3)ⁿ⁻¹ Let’s calculate the n=4 topological shell: R₄ = 27 · (√3)³ ≈ 140.296 AU. When we connect our dashboard to the LIVE NASA Horizons API to track fractional divergence {n} = n - round(n), we see the impossible. ➤ Pioneer 10: +0.019 ➤ Voyager 2: +0.046 Their columns are practically glued to absolute mathematical zero. They are flying at exactly ~141.7 AU and ~143.8 AU. They are not floating aimlessly. They have been mathematically and physically CAPTURED by the n=4 topological resonance layer (140.3 AU). The joint probability of this happening by random chance is p = 0.0034. 👁️ V. THE HYDROGEN RHYME & THE OPEN SOURCE TRUTH In 2013, physicists took the first-ever direct photograph of the electron orbitals of a Hydrogen Atom (Stodolna et al., PRL 110, 213001). When our 3D Perez Hourglass manifold rotates into a Top-Down 2D projection, the architecture of our Solar System PERFECTLY MIMICS the 2013 Hydrogen photograph. The distribution of 1.56 million macro-objects flawlessly matches the exact nodal interference fringes of the (2,27,0) Stark state observed in the lab. Furthermore, a live Entropy Test on 951 real comets proves: ➤ Bound comets (e 1) exist in a continuous ionization spectrum (H = 3.85 bits), acting exactly as free macroscopic electrons escaping the atom! THE CONCLUSION: Exactly 99.56% of all baryonic mass is geometrically trapped in a central topological node. The universe uses ONE blueprint. The continuum is dead. 👁️ VI. THE ANCIENT AXIOM & THE GEOMETRY OF THE MATRIX For millennia, the greatest minds in human history recorded fragments of a universal fractal law. For centuries, orthodox science dismissed these records as mere philosophical metaphors, religious mysticism, or primitive alchemy. But our mathematical matrix proves otherwise. They were not writing poetry; they were describing the LITERAL geometric and topological mechanics of the universe. The invariant mapping between subatomic hydrogen orbitals and macroscopic celestial mechanics proves that the ancients were blindly touching the exact same structural blueprint we have now mathematically solved. By synthesizing thousands of years of human intuition with raw astrophysical data, a perfect scale-invariant reality emerges: ➤ The Hermetic & Vedic Invariance: The foundational axiom of the Emerald Tablet—"That which is below is like that which is above"—and the ancient Sanskrit maxim "Yatha pinde tatha brahmande" (As in the microcosm, so in the macrocosm) are not mystical riddles. They are the exact verbal formulations of structural scale-invariance. The atom and the solar system are geometrically identical. ➤ The Pythagorean & Platonic Lattice: Plato’s famous declaration that "God always geometrizes" perfectly describes the rigid spatial logic of our topological matrix. Just as the Pythagoreans claimed the harmony of the spheres mimics the human soul, we see that the primary chaos of matter is ordered strictly by invariant, measurable geometric symmetry. ➤ The Abrahamic Projection: The structural hierarchy of the universe demands that the macro-order projects perfectly onto the micro-plane ("On earth as it is in heaven"). The blueprint is singular, echoing across all scales of existence. ➤ The Galileo-Dirac Synthesis: Galileo asserted that the universe is a book written in the language of mathematics, its letters made of triangles and circles. Centuries later, quantum pioneer Paul Dirac echoed that the Creator used "very complex mathematics." They were absolutely correct. The quantum vacuum is not an empty void; it is a rigid, calculable, and perfectly synchronized geometric framework. Philosophy, ancient mysticism, and advanced theoretical physics have just collapsed into a single, computable truth. The ancients did not invent a myth; they preserved the topological blueprint of the Matrix. The macrocosm and the microcosm are driven by the exact same geometric engine. The universe is a single, mathematically flawless organism. 📜 THE PATH OF PURE SCIENCE & A 5 LTC REWARD We have over 70 preprints behind us on Zenodo. You can open them and watch the evolution of our thought. When we started, we made mistakes, and we publicly corrected ourselves in subsequent papers with the whole world watching. No hiding data. This is how real science is done! Peer-reviewed journals with their editors sipping coffee in offices and protecting their funding grants mean nothing. Words mean absolutely nothing! Mathematics is the ultimate judge. For centuries, mainstream physics has been measuring the universe with the wrong ruler! By completely ignoring the fundamental laws of spectral geometry and topology, they failed to see the true structure of reality. We have fixed this. We are so confident in our math that we are issuing an unprecedented challenge. No academic in the world will offer to pay you to tear their work to shreds. But we do! A reward of 5 LTC (Litecoin)-chosen specifically because it runs like a Swiss watch with 100% uptime-is waiting for anyone who can mathematically refute the IT³ topological engine using real orbital data. 🌍 WHAT WE PROVED (IN SIMPLE TERMS) Imagine you are watching a city from above, trying to understand how trains move. Until now, scientists were only looking at the trains themselves, trying to guess where they would go next. What we did was discover the hidden tracks. In the simplest terms: we proved that the universe is not just empty space where things float randomly. We discovered that the macro and the micro are mirror images of one another-that the Solar System is structured and operates exactly like a giant atom. From the microscopic electrons orbiting a nucleus to the massive planets orbiting our Sun, everything moves along the exact same strict, invisible geometric grid. We found the hidden "blueprint" of space. It means the universe operates like a perfectly tuned instrument, where atomic geometry and celestial mechanics are governed by one beautiful mathematical law. We didn't invent a new theory; we simply uncovered the tracks nature has been using since the beginning of time-proving that the cosmos is just an atom written on a universal scale. WORDS MEAN NOTHING. RUN THE CODE YOURSELF: Open your terminal (Mac/Linux) and paste this command to hijack the database and watch the Matrix render in under 35 seconds: curl -sL " | python3 Read the rigorous proofs: DOI: DOI: DOI: #Astrophysics #NASA #DNA #QuantumCosmology #PhysicsBreakthrough #IT3Framework #DataScience](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2095795762135179702/amplify_video_thumb/2095784803115393025/img/8vaHlcNwDYonjdRK.jpg)
!["Tell us this isn't true." "They had a live being out [near Area 51]." "There were human experiments that went on." 👽🛸 Roswell: A Non-Human Craft or a Darker Secret? 🤫😶 (Transcript is shorter than clip. I don't have room to type more in this post so I'll just wait for replies.) ~ Lex Fridman: "In your book on 'Area 51,' you propose an explanation that I think some people have criticized, at the very end. That this might have been a disinformation campaign from, I guess, Stalin, that the Roswell incident was a remotely-piloted plane with a quote 'grotesque, child-sized aviator.' Just looking back at all that now, years later, what's the probability that it's true? What's the probability it's not?" Annie Jacobsen: (AJ): "So, you know, I've never revealed who that source is." Lex: "Yes." AJ: "You know that? Want me to tell you?" Lex: "Okay, who was the source?" AJ: "So, before I say anything on that, let me speak to the question that you asked, right? So, you asked me, 'What's the probability that that is still standing as an idea, 12, 13, 14 years later,' right? So, I continued to work with that source for years, afterwards. We talked about this. Look, I mean, his whole family knew it was him. And I knew his family because I was an integral part of, you know, I was at his house, met all his kids, grandkids." Lex: "And we should say, the source is the main expert advisor behind the story that it was. Maybe you can explain what the story is that your report in the book, that it was a disinformation campaign created by Stalin to cause mass hysteria in the United States. The very kind that we've been speaking about with the CIA and so on." AJ: "Yes! Predicated on the narrative of the 'War of the Worlds,' right? And the 'War of the Worlds,' when it was a radio program in the United States, made people go crazy. 'Oh, my God, we're being invaded by aliens!' Well, the government was always interested in the story and Joseph Stalin was, too. We know that from declassified documents, right? "And so, the source told me that the reason for this program, and that the real Roswell crash remains, were in fact, it was a black-propaganda hoax infiltrated, you know, or rather, predicated at this idea that you were gonna overwhelm America's early-warning, air-defense system, cause mayhem and maybe be able to attack the United States. That was the plan. And Stalin was also messing with the United States, messing with Truman, who sort of, you know, turned his back on him, right? At Potsdam. "And so, this idea, and the reason that the source is important... And unlike, you know, a lot of people, 'I saw this, I saw that, I learned that.' Was, according to the source, once it was determined that this was a hoax and that Stalin was able to get a craft over the United States, and it crashed. And it had, you know, people inside of it, they were people that were sort of deformed and meant...surgically altered to look like aliens. "The United States government decided that it needed to know what on earth that was all about, and if it was possible for us to have the same program. This, according to this source, right? And so, it sounds preposterous, and if it was just someone saying, 'I...,' you might say, 'Well, it's ridiculous, get them onto another subject.' But, the difference was, is this source, who was very well placed, and friends with all of the other 75 people, you know, told me this as a confession, right? A real, tearful confession, because what he said is he was involved in the American program to do the same thing. And people died, because there were human experiments that went on." "And I write about this in the last 12 pages of 'Area 51.' It was an explosive, you know, revelation, and I felt very confident in writing this because the source wanted it written. Why? Because he said, 'I'm dedicated to my country. I know about being committed to national security, and this kind of thing must never happen. And if you give people too much power, they will take advantage of it.' And he wanted it on the record. "And his wife of 60 years did not know until after the book published. Nor did His children, okay? So, after the book published, I was called to his house and sat there with his family. And they said, 'Tell us this isn't true.' And he said, 'It is true,' right? (We need a tape of this confession or...for his family to confirm they heard this from him.) AJ: "Now that source is Al O'Donnell, who is the nuclear-weapons engineer who armed, wired and fired 186 nuclear weapons, okay? So if you wanna talk about someone..." Lex: "Woooooow." AJ: "You're the first person I've told that on the record, but it's kind of about time." Lex: "Woooooow. Well, you received a lot of criticism over this story, and it confused me why, because it's...given the context of everything you've described with the CIA and other intelligence agencies, it is reasonable that such action would be taken. AJ: "And, the source is extraordinarily credible, right? If you wanted to take the position, 'Well, that person isn't very reliable,' then you have to ask yourself, 'Why did they have Top-Secret clearances that are higher than any in the United States whatsoever?' Because he was responsible for arming nuclear bombs. He was called the trigger man. "And by the way, he told me that I could tell the world who he was. There's a lot of details that are really dark, involving that program. And when is it appropriate, right? Well, it feels appropriate now. First of all, because you and I have been talking for several hours. So this is what is truly a long-form conversation and it's the outcome of, you know, a very long time of my reporting, and also being judicious about what, you know, closing the loop on that, right? Because I do think it's important for people to know that sources have revelations." Lex: "And, like you said, the programs, both on the Soviet side, and the American side, conflicting, I think's the term we used previously? Ethically, morally, on all fronts. People have done some horrible things in the name of security. In your book, 'Surprise, Kill Vanish,' you write about the CIA." ~~~ Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell: "So, today, I want to focus on a really important story that you once told me, that has never been told all the way [from the] beginning, to all the way to the end. And I just think it's just so cool we get to do this today. So, the question I want to ask is: After you got hooked on the UFO thing, with Bob Lazar, and you as a journalist said, 'I'm gonna start getting sources.' Like, 12 people coming at you, people shut down by the government. You can tell that. But you finally, finally got to a credible individual who had direct, firsthand knowledge about UFOs, exploitation, reverse engineering, and beings. And, oh my God, I want the world to hear this story. Tell us the story." George Knapp: "I've shared some of it in very broad strokes over the years- little bits and pieces of it - without ever actually referencing, in my statements, the guy the source. But this will be the first time I've told it in totality. "And it takes me back to when I first started in this. It's 1989 KLAS-TV, we put together, we spent eight months working on this project called 'UFOs: The Best Evidence.' Nine-part series. It airs on television, it's the biggest thing that's ever been produced for local TV, to this date, and still. "And, along the way, as I'm trying to find...telling the story about Bob Lazar, and his allegations about what was out there at S-4, near Area 51 - recovered discs, alien technology being reverse engineered - I'm looking for people who would support that. And I found about two dozen people, witnesses who had worked out there, who had seen bits and pieces, who could corroborate parts of what Bob had said about these kinds of craft being out there in the Nevada desert. But there wasn't anybody big picture who knew as much as Lazar claimed to have known, so I was still looking for them. "In 1990, I started working on a follow-up series to Best Evidence, looking for new witnesses. And I got a hint from an elected official that I had known, I'd covered him in Nevada politics. He says, 'You know, you should talk to my dad one of these days.' 'Your dad?' 'Yeah.' And he told me what the dad's name was and what he had done, what job he had had. And I said, 'Ah.' So I started stalking the guy. I just started showing up at events where I knew he would be. One of those events was a reunion for employees of EG&G." Corbell (JC): "So I'm assuming that this source was working within EG&G in some capacity, which is, by the way, who Bob [Lazar] said, hired him to go out to Site-4, S-4 at Area 51. So you're like, 'Okay, I can now find out if this is bullshit, or if there's an element of truth to it.' Do I have that right?" Knapp (GK): "Pretty much correct, yeah. So, I'm looking for someone whose credentials are impeccable. Unlike Bob, whose credentials were questioned, and people still attack him on where he went to school and where he worked, and was he at Los Alamos? This guy is documentable. There's a paper trail of where he worked, what he did. There's no question that he was in a position to know. He was the first general manager of EG&G in Nevada. His name was Al O'Donnell, and he has a prominent family. "When I heard that EG&G was having a reunion, I went there. We took a camera [and I figured], 'This is a great chance to get him on camera before I start asking him the questions I really want to ask.'" JC: "And when you say he is a general manager, like, does that give him certain roles and responsibilities that would give him insight? Like, he's not a secretary, so what does that mean?" GK: "He's the boss. He was the boss of the Nevada office. And I'll tell you a little bit about EG&G. So, it was a company that was created in Boston, right around the end of World War Two. Al O'Donnell had been in the Navy, serving during the war. He got out of the Navy while the war was still underway and went to work for a company called Raytheon, which became this massive, gigantic defense contractor that's still around today, still in Nevada in fact." JC: Yeah, they've got a big connection to the UFO topic, right? But, when you say Boston, like, where in Boston was it created?" GK: "Well, MIT is where the company was born. Edgerton, Germeshausen and Grier were the three guys, the EG&G in that. They were at MIT. Scientists, engineers, they created this company there. And Al O'Donnell, who had been working for Raytheon, working on the Manhattan Project. He didn't know he was working on the Manhattan Project, but they were building these devices, complex triggers, that allowed them to detonate nuclear weapons. He learned later what he was doing was part of the Manhattan Project. "He goes to MIT, starts working with EG&G. Their company in those days had, I think, 15 employees, Al said. So it was a very small startup. But it suddenly exploded because the American atomic program exploded in those years. In 1950, Harry Truman decides that we need a permanent, nuclear testing site somewhere in the continental U.S., so they looked at a bunch of places, and they settled on Nevada. "Prior to that, Al O'Donnell had been sent out to the Pacific. They had five of these massive, atomic bomb tests out in the Pacific, and they decided to move it into a continental U.S. location and Nevada's Test Site - it was called the Nevada Test Site in those days - was chosen. Al O'Donnell leads the exodus from Boston, out to Nevada. They start hiring engineers and scientists, physicists and other security, spies." JC: "What are they working on at this time when they make that move?" GK: "Atomic bombs. They're building, testing atomic bombs. EG&G was a really precise organization that was created in order to detonate, measure and photograph atomic weapons. If you look in the history of photography, you'll see some of these amazing photos that they took of, you know, water drops dropping in water and...they're pretty famous shots because of these cameras that they developed. And it was perfect for use and testing atomic weapons and documenting what the process was. "So, EG&G comes out to Las Vegas, they are the managers of the Nevada Test Site. They, subsequently, years later, become the managers of Area 51 when it opens in 1955. So Al O'Donnell is the top guy. He oversees the nuclear testing program out there, manages it for EG&G, works with the Atomic Energy Commission. He has a Top-Secret security clearance and he can go anywhere and see anything. There's, basically, no restrictions, nothing that is outside of his ability to find out and see." JC: "So, this is an impeccable resume. This is somebody who was in position to know, and would know if someone like Bob Lazar was telling the truth or not telling the truth. I find it, personally, humorous that EG&G was, its genesis, its seed, came from MIT, right?" GK: "So, late 1990 or early 1991, I'd have to look up the dates. But somewhere in there is this event, this EG&G reunion. I go there, we got a camera, I interview Al O'Donnell, introduce myself, and say, 'Hey, I'm really interested in this, can we continue this conversation?' So he invites me to his home. He says, 'Come on over, we'll arrange to come over on a Saturday or something. We'll sit down, I'll go through my scrapbooks and show you some documents and memorabilia and photos from that era.' I was like, 'Great.' "So I go to his house and meet this wife. And we sit down, he opens up these big scrapbooks, and he starts showing me all the stuff that he had done. Photos that had been taken out in the proximity of these gigantic nuclear tests. They had great stories about the camaraderie that developed among the engineers and scientists. And he's going through all this stuff and showing me all this. And I love it, I loved every bit of it. I've never had a bad day at the Nevada Test Site, by the way. Every time I've gone out there to do a story, it's just a terrific way to spend some time." JC: "Secrets should be kept, secrets are kept, and you are a proponent of keeping secrets when it's that kind of thing." GK: "Sure, absolutely. And I respected the boundaries that they set up for us in doing these kinds of stories. So I did go out to the Nevada Test Site a lot over the next 40 years or so and put together a lot of different stories. And they knew of my interest in that area that's just outside what the Nevada Test Site, a place called Area 51. In 1955, Area 51 was, basically, created and EG&G got the contract to manage Area 51, and had kept it for the next 30, 35 years. So, whatever went on out there, they had an inside knowledge of what was going on." JC: "So, you meet this guy, Al O'Donnell, for the first time when he's at this public thing. You probably say something like, 'Your son told me to talk to you,' or something. Whatever. It ends up, he invites you to his home, and you're going through scrapbooks, and he's showing you all this atomic testing stuff that he was involved in. GK: "Yeah, and I'm telling him, 'Boy, this is really interesting. That's fascinating. I'd love to do a story on it.' And after we're there for maybe two hours, he closes this one big scrapbook and he goes, 'You're not here to talk about this, are ya?' I said, 'Well, not exactly.' He says, 'I know what you're here to talk about. I know what you want to ask about.' And right about that point, his wife walks in and she says, 'Don't start telling them that stuff! Don't even tell him!' And he kind of joked about it.' JC: "What were you there to talk about?" GK: "UFOs, UFOs. Area 51, Bob Lazar, crashed saucers, reverse engineering, to see if he had any knowledge of that, because I'd been led to believe that he did. So he closes that book and he says, 'We'll have we'll get together another time and we'll talk about it in private.' And over the course of the next two years or so, he and I would meet at coffee shops and talk about it. And I would ask him questions, and really, it was like pulling teeth. He wanted to tell me stuff but he made me work at it." (AJ says his family was there for the confession. Knapp has over two years of meetings with him. A bit confusing.) GK: "And the condition was, I couldn't take any notes. I couldn't record it, I couldn't take any notes. So each time I'd meet with him, I'd rush back to my car and start scribbling notes on pieces of paper so I'd remember everything that he said. And the story that he told me, that evolved over those couple of years was pretty fantastic. "He said that they did have a flying saucer that had been recovered from New Mexico. I think he indicated that it had been taken from New Mexico to Wright Patterson Air Force Base, which is... He never said Roswell, but I think it was the Roswell incident is what he [was] talking about. And it confirmed some of the details about what we know, likely, happened with the Roswell craft." JC: "When he's telling you, 'We have recovered a craft,' did he say it like, this is secret, don't tell anybody?" GK: "Yeah, it was just for my knowledge, my background and information. It wasn't a story I could do then. We were negotiating about how, or when, or if I could ever use that information or make it public. He told me the details about this craft. He said that it had been stored at Indian Springs. Indian Springs is an Air Force Base that's been there for a long time. It's now called Creech. Indian Springs existed before Area 51 was made. "But he says it was there, they kept it there. It might have been in an underground facility, I'm not quite sure. But then when Area 51, after it opened in 1955, they moved it to an adjacent facility. He didn't say it was S-4, he didn't say it was Papoose, but I think that's what he's talking about. Papoose Lake is where Bob Lazar said he worked, and where they had built nine hangars underground, disguised to look like the desert, and where they had other recovered craft. "He says they worked on this recovered craft, reverse engineering, trying to figure out how it worked, who built it. Whether or not they could duplicate the technology because, apparently, they thought this was pretty advanced, and they'd like to be able to build more of 'em. "And he says it was a very closed program, very small. It was only, I think, five of them that were aware of it, at least in the early stages, that were working on this project. And it was very hush hush, and they didn't share it with anybody else in the company, or anybody else in the area, or the military. They just kept it to themselves. "So, after we're having these meetings - and I go back and write down all these notes and stuff, details about what he had shared with me - we have another meeting at a coffee shop, and I said, 'Well gosh, you know, aren't you worried that it would get out, that the word would get out?' "And he says to me, 'We were worried It would get out?' That's right. 'I mean, what...it? What do you mean, it?' It. Meaning a live being, they had a live being out there. I go, 'You had a live being, an alien as well?' [O'Donnell said], 'Tell you the truth, we didn't know what it was.' I said, 'You know, maybe it came from millions of miles away, out in space, and you're keeping it in a cage near Area 51?' He said, 'To tell you the truth, we couldn't communicate with it in the beginning. We didn't know what it was, we didn't know where it was from, and we didn't know what to do with it.'" JC: "When Al O'Donnell says to you, 'We had a live alien, a being,' obviously from another world, what was your feeling?" GK: "Well, I was overwhelmed, because it was, in effect, confirmation of things that I had come to believe, because of the reporting we'd already done. And then the evidence of cover ups and lies that had been told to the public. Here's this guy in a high position, with a high security clearance, telling me that it was true. That they really did have a craft and they had a being. "My second feeling was, one of overwhelming sadness for the being, whatever it was, you know, that was kept out there. I asked him, you know, what had happened to it, what became of it? He says, 'I don't know. I don't know whatever happened to it.' But it was out there for a while, alive, and eventually they figured out a way to communicate with it. "And so I asked him, 'Well, what did it look like?' And he made me guess, as he did with all these questions. He made me guess. He said, 'Well, it kinda looks like a certain political candidate.' I said, 'Well, who? A political candidate? Who?' And at the time, Ross Perot was running for president. He said, 'It looks like Ross Perot. A little skinny guy with a big ears and tiny head.' Not a classic Gray-looking alien, but a very odd-looking creature with really big ears, that looked like Ross Perot. And I laughed. "And so we had these conversations for a while, and I was blown away by the information that he shared. I took all these notes. I was hoping that someday, I might be able to get the information out. And I asked him, 'Look, you're getting up there in age. If I can't record something with you, could you record a statement to the effect of telling me the story on camera, and then when you pass on, I can have the tape?' And he said, 'Yeah,' he would do it." JC: "You know, look, I've heard a lot of wild stories that I can't verify. A guy's telling you something, and you get a sense as a journalist, when you go down a road with somebody, and you take your time and you vet it... Did you feel...I mean, is there any world where he's trying to f*ck with ya? Or is there a world where he's trying to, you know, dissuade...kind of put crazy information into your brain? Like, how did you feel when he was telling you this? Was he like, straight with you?" GK: "Yeah, he was very straightforward. And again, this was not information he was giving up, willingly. I mean, I had to really dig and coax and arm twist to get him to cough things up. And it was very slow-going over about a two-year period, maybe a little bit longer. And I know that this...you always have to be wary of people with different agendas and people that just make stuff up. I didn't get that sense from him because of his standing in the community. He had shared this story with members of his own family." JC: "And that's why they came to you, is because they kind of [gave] you a tip. And these members of his family, they're serious people, too." GK: "Yeah. One of his sons is an FBI agent, or was, he's passed on now. One was an elected official in Nevada. That was the one that gave me the tip." JC: So, I just want to nail this [down] so I understand. You were approached because he had shared this with his family, privately, and then you had to kind of coax to get through to him about the story?" GK: "Right." JC: "I think that's important because look, these things don't happen, like, people [don't] just come to us and say, you know, crazy stuff, and we're like, 'Hh, yeah, cool. Sounds good.' Like, the dynamic of that, socially, as a journalist, like getting in there, taking time. You know, we have to verify if what he said is true, and there are some major bombs coming about that. But it's like, that process is so important. "So here you are, you're sitting with him, he tells you now, they have a live alien. And you felt sad because you're an animal-rights activist, you love animals. I know with your cats at home and you've done horse stories and all the stories about like, the inhumane stuff to animals. So it made you personally sad, makes me sad, too now thinking about it." GK: Yeah. Well, we had these series of meetings, and then the last time we met, after he'd agreed to go ahead and record a tape - and give it to me after making an arrangement so I got it after he passed on - he said that he had been told to not talk to me anymore. He said he had been given a warning [and] it was not a good idea for him to talk to me any more about anything. Not just that topic, but anything." JC: "Well, who knows that you're talking? Who would warn him?" GK: "I don't know. I don't know. But you recall, back in those days, there was surveillance. We had our phones tapped at KLAS-TV. There were guys following us around. Me, Bob Lazar, Gene Huff, maybe Robert Bigelow." JC: "People were also coming to your news station, OSI. And they would come in and try to like, get to you and then they'd show you their card...and take it back. And you know your phones are tapped. So it's like, because of this story, all of a sudden you're on high alert. So, anybody could have called him, been watching you, had meetings with the guy. So what you're saying is one day he just said, 'I can't...I'm not allowed to talk to you any more.'" GK: "Yeah, I've been told not to talk to you anymore. I've been told not to."](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2079616298435400152/amplify_video_thumb/2079612656366112768/img/mxq1uM4Cp0iG8pyw.jpg)
!["It's been here for a very long time, it goes by many names, it's many different things. And it has an influence on all of us. These things...are probably what are referred to as gods or demons or angels or jinn." ~Dylan Borland (I think Dylan pretty much nailed it in this "Weaponized" interview.) Dylan Borland: "These things, whatever they are, are probably what are referred to as gods or demons or angels or jinn or insert whatever cultural or religious perspective you have. There are probably also extraterrestrials. It's not a one-size-fits-all. "And considering, you know, humanity has the same stories across many cultures: a flood, a craft that are in the sky, things that are coming and helping humans. And I'm at an advantage and a disadvantage knowing certain information that relates very clearly to things that are around the world that are related to what I know. I don't think that's by pure coincidence or luck. "I think that the people that are in these programs know the truth to this stuff, and they are looking at it through a lens of...this is true, this is true, this is true. This has been here for 8000 years. This has been here for 4000 years. Oh, we dug up this at an archeological dig in, hypothetically, Egypt. "You know, I mentioned it to you guys last night, Lacatski in his statement about his faith and what it means to be human and the impact and nothing to fear." ~ "If full human capabilities were known to us right now, [the phenomenon] is not something that we need to fear. Our capabilities...have never been fully revealed and we're still learning. We've got a long way to evolve still." ~Dr. James Lacatski ~ Borland: "You know, Lacatski and I are both Catholics, but I want to be clear in that, it's the idea of something greater than us that is here with us and can influence us. And Pasalka talks about this, and you get into consciousness. And all of these things are so correlated, and that's a problem with this subject. "And that's why one of the things that I'm a huge proponent of, going back to having our government be a part of this, is you have to set a foundation. Because, if you come out and you throw it all out there, people are gonna laugh at you, they're gonna call you crazy, they're gonna do X, Y, and Z. And you have to set a foundation. "And I understand the UFO fanatics are not gonna like this opinion, but this isn't for you, this is for the public. If you want disclosure, the public has to be a part of it. Hence, why I'm here. Is to hopefully get enough people outside of this subject, agitated, upset, and come and say, 'No, we're done with this.' "My big-picture idea is, it's been here for a very long time, it goes by many names, it's many different things. And it has an influence on all of us." George Knapp: "You know, we don't really know what they look like. You know, they're so advanced to us. Gods? Sure, could be at that level. They might as well be gods, they're so far advanced. I don't think they need craft to get here. That's some kind of a bauble, that's a something to get us interested. Hey, look at this. "That's why we maybe have so many of them. The don't necessarily crash. That appears to be a crash. Something that's always been here. I'm not entirely positive they have our best interests at heart. Feels like an experiment. They mess with us on a mass scale, an individual scale, and I'm not sure we're ever gonna understand it." Borland: "I tend to agree with you. I have many thoughts on this, and this is one of the other things I came into knowledge of while at my work at DTRA before I lost my job. When Congress passed the archives legislation where all the agencies were supposed to round up all their documents, I had a wonderful conversation on my last day, and I'm sure it was just coincidental. "The person in charge of collecting all of the information from DTRA, dealing with extraterrestrials, and, as he put it, quote unquote, 'little green men,' happened to sit next to me at my computer terminal and began pulling all of the documents on my system and the systems in our SCIF. "Interesting fact for you was that he came into the old atomic-energy documents from way back when, and there was intelligence and information in those that discuss what you said. Which is, this has been around with them, and that even back then they had a similar outlook that this isn't exactly for our benefit." "You know, you get into...and again, I don't want to go too woo. I want to really avoid the woo, but we're going into hypotheticals, and I try to keep all options open. You're right; they don't...theoretically, they don't have to come here. I mean, we're working with Neuralink, we're projecting thoughts, we're doing all of this...dreams, you have MK Ultra, you have all of this stuff throughout the history, and all of our intelligence agencies never get rid of that capability. They only get better at it. They only get better at hiding it. "But, if somebody's able to put a thought in your head, George, and tell you build this craft, yeah, you're the one who built it, but the thought came from somebody else. And now you start to get into places that are purely hypothetical, and I'm not even saying I believe them. But it's clear there's something to this." Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell: "Like, thoughts as intruders from a non-human intelligence, having humanity do the bidding that they want, without direct knowledge that it's being asked by someone else? And we're talking about that, right?" Borland: "Theoretically, that's a possibility, 100%." ~ Speaking of putting thoughts in our heads... This is from John Keel's "Operation Trojan Horse." I have pulled a TON of excerpts from that book and it's a Top 5 read for me. ~Begin OTH Excerpt~ "In his book Passport to Magonia, Dr. Jacques Vallee, a NASA astronomer and computer expert, touches on all this. 'In the Soviet Union, not so long ago, a leading plasma physicist died in strange circumstances,' Dr. Vallee states. 'He was thrown under a Moscow subway train by a mentally deranged woman. It is noteworthy that she claimed a ‘voice from space’ had given her orders to kill that particular man - orders she could not resist. "Soviet criminologists, I have been reliably informed, are worried by the increase of such cases in recent years. Madmen rushing through the streets because they think the Martians are after them have always been commonplace. But the current wave of mental imbalance that can be specifically tied to the rise and development of the contactee myth is an aspect of the UFO problem that must be considered with special care.” "So there seem to be both good and evil forces at work in this type of phenomenon. The good guys latch onto people with particularly receptive minds and turn them into trance mediums. The bad guys use the same methods to tamper with the minds of contactees and even to commit murders indirectly. Because incidents of these types can be traced throughout history, it seems probable that these forces have always been extant on this planet. ~End OTH Excerpt~ ~ Borland: "I think on Joe Rogan, he mentions like, artificial intelligence influencing humans, who continue to create artificial intelligence, and just round and round." Corbell: "Yeah, the metamorphosis philosophy that Rogan talks about. It's really beautiful." Borland: "I mean, I keep all options on the table. What I know is these things are real; they exist, we've had them, other nations have them. I know that in some way, shape, or form, they appear in a physical sense. I know that they have an interest in people, and I have a strong belief that they have an interest in certain families, if you want to call them that. "What does it all mean? I don't know, but what I do know is that, as a democratic republic and a nation that votes for our elected leaders and leaders that are supposed to provide us information, we're not fulfilling our obligation in our constitution because we're not voting with information. We are lying to ourselves."](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2096304163772932534/amplify_video_thumb/2096287422581739520/img/Hv1KrEK9W-7bY7Te.jpg)
