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RFK: I've actually read the science. Let's you and I come back here and debate the science. BASH: I'm not debating this with you. RFK: Of course you won't. BASH: No, because I'm not debating policy. RFK: All you know how to do is repeat things that people told...

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RFK Jr Goes Off on CNN Reporter Reporter: "It's factually true that the covid vaccine worked. The covid vaccine prevented deaths. There is data upon data upon data." RFK Jr: "Can you show me one study?" Reporter: "I can tell you that when it comes to the vaccine, there have been studies that show that because of vaccine disinformation, there could have been 100,000 to 200,000 lives in the US saved, but because people didn't get the vaccine..." RFK Jr: "You are saying something that you cannot show me a single study." Reporter: "I am not saying nonsense. You're talking about studies that don't exist." RFK Jr: "Do you see your job as ending vaccine hesitancy, or do you see your job is telling the truth?" Reporter: "I see my job is telling the truth, and the truth is that there is study after study after study. It's one of the most studied things out there in science." RFK Jr: "You repeat it like a parrot. I've actually read the science." Reporter: "I'm not debating this..." RFK Jr: "Of course you're not because all you know how to do is repeat things that people told you and say trust the experts. That's what you did during covid." RFK Jr: "Now we know that Anthony Fauci, who was the expert, was lying about everything, about masks, about the social distancing, about natural immunity, about the transmission from the vaccine, about the source of covid. He was lying, and you were punishing people for not trusting the experts, and now you're rolling out the experts again to talk about something that you have no personal knowledge of." Reporter: "Okay, well guess what? That is my job to talk to people."

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WATCH: The full exchange wherein CNN's Dana Bash got COOKED by RFKJR BASH: So, how do you prepare then? How do you prepare for the next pandemic? I mean, that's literally part of your job now, because experts think it's going to happen within the next 10 years again. KENNEDY: Yes, I mean, I think we did virtually everything wrong the last time. BASH: So -- but what about now? KENNEDY: The principal thing that we need to do is, we need to listen to what's happening to doctors on the ground. There are 15 million frontline physicians around the world. They're mainly now connected through the Internet. We can tell on the front lines what's working and what's not. If we had listened to those doctors during the COVID pandemic, we would have saved potentially millions of lives. There were therapeutics out there that were working. There were doctors that were having no deaths from COVID and treating in some cases thousands of patients. And we weren't listening to them. Instead, we were doing the opposite. We were shutting them down. And then, Dana, the other thing that I would say is that we need to protect our constitutional rights. That is the primary obligation of our country. BASH: What does that mean? KENNEDY: Well, during COVID, we completely dismantled our constitutional rights. We began censoring people, in violation of the First Amendment. (CROSSTALK) BASH: But you're saying what not to do. I'm asking what to do. But I- but I want to talk about... KENNEDY: Well, that's something to do. That is the number one priority. We protect the Constitution. The Constitution was written. BASH: Forgive me, but you're just -- you're talking about rights, and I'm asking about a potential public health crisis that is coming. But I do want to -- let's... KENNEDY: And one of the mistakes we made in the last time was suppressing those rights so people weren't being heard. Doctors who were saying you're doing it wrong were being marginalized and vilified and... BASH: Yes, because -- because -- again, I really want to move on. But you were saying you were... KENNEDY: Of course you want to move... BASH: Yes, I do. KENNEDY: ... because you were part of the problem. BASH: No, I wasn't part of the problem. KENNEDY: There was absolute press malpractice. You weren't allowing -- your job... (CROSSTALK) BASH: Mr. Secretary, your job... KENNEDY: Your job is a fierce skepticism toward authority. BASH: OK. Yes, I am. I am. KENNEDY: And you weren't doing that. You were beating up on people who were dissenting. BASH: My job is also -- no, OK. Are you going to -- you want to sit here and attack me, or do you want to have conversations about public health? KENNEDY: Well, you're sitting here and attacking me. BASH: I'm not attacking you. I'm asking questions about how to prevent the next pandemic. KENNEDY: And let me answer the question. And I will tell you... BASH: That's what I'm trying to do. But I also don't want to use this interview to allow you to say things that aren't entirely true. You're talking about therapeutics. Fine. It is also factually true that the COVID vaccine worked. The COVID vaccine prevented deaths. There is data upon data upon data. Let's talk about the measles, please, because this is something that is happening as we speak. The cases in the U.S... KENNEDY: You think the COVID vaccine protected children? BASH: I think that what I have talked to scientists and doctors about... KENNEDY: You have talked to scientists. Can you look -- can you show me one study... BASH: Yes, I can. I can. KENNEDY: ... that shows that children were protected by the COVID vaccine? BASH: I can tell you that there are... KENNEDY: That that vaccine did more good than harm to children? Can you show me one study that shows that? BASH: I can tell you that, when it comes to the vaccine, there have been studies that show that, because of vaccine disinformation, disinformation, there could have been 100,000 to 200,000 in the U.S. saved But because people didn't get the vaccine, that's why. (CROSSTALK) BASH: I'm not saying that it entirely -- let me finish. Let me finish. KENNEDY: You are saying nonsense. You are saying something that you cannot show me a single study. BASH: OK. I am not saying nonsense. I'm -- excuse me. KENNEDY: You are talking -- somebody told you. BASH: Excuse me. Let me... KENNEDY: And you -- cite me the study. What study? (CROSSTALK) BASH: No, what studies are you talking about? You're talking about studies that actually don't exist. I want to talk about the... KENNEDY: Cite me the study. You're talking about it. BASH: I'm not here to defend... KENNEDY: You say you have seen studies. Cite me the study. BASH: This is not productive. I am not here to defend all of the -- let me finish. KENNEDY: You're just -- you're talking nonsense. You're making assertions you can't support, and then when I call you on them, you're telling me I'm arguing with you. BASH: OK, do you want to talk about you want to talk about assertions that you can't support? I will get there in a second. Let me just say, for the record, that I am not saying that the entire way that the COVID reaction was accurate. It was a scary time, and people made mistakes, absolutely. Let me finish. KENNEDY: You were scaring people. BASH: Why are you saying that? KENNEDY: Because that was the job of CNN... BASH: OK. OK, stop. KENNEDY: ... was to put the Chyrons up about many people are dying to get people to comply. BASH: We were trying to be -- we were listening to the leaders in this country, including the president, who had a daily press conference explaining what was going on, and trying to listen. KENNEDY: Were you listening to the scientists, actually? BASH: I want to talk to -- measles. 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