Season 2 of Before AGI rolls on! This week I sat down with Harvard Law professor & Berkman Klein Center co-founder Jonathan Zittrain to ask: What happens when AI agents don’t just assist—but act for us? Insights into law, tech & trust in an autonomous-agent world incoming!

From the Internet’s three evolutionary eras to today’s “generative equilibrium” dilemmas, we dig into why open networks sometimes slide into bad outcomes and how to design assistants that empower—not sideline—human judgment. We also examine expectations of privacy and “AI privilege,” as well as the questions of user rights and regulation vs. self-regulation approaches in a global race. YouTube: Spotify: Apple Podcasts:

@sama @zittrain GPT-5 wen sama?

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@sama @zittrain I hope we get at least 10 seasons of “Before AGI”

@zittrain Focus on learning to predict out of distribution imo, I feel like more and more the path of least resistance for ChatGPT as a product doesn't immediately align with what the most important research is for longer-term useful AGI.

@zittrain where is GPT 5?

@zittrain Autonomous agents, because human agency is so last season

@sama @zittrain Interesting, will give a listen for sure!

@zittrain Proper use of AI

@sama @zittrain Transformer systems like GPT or BERT are a dead end for AGI.