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Since this graph is making rounds again and conservatives are weaponizing it while showing they don’t understand data. Quick Thoughts
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@lthlnkso Well the right is definitely more diverse than the left according to the left itself, because according to the left, everyone that thinks trans women are men are far right.

@lthlnkso Do you have a source for this? I’m not interested in your feelings otherwise. Most dems I know do not believe that simply believing trans women are not women is far right

@lthlnkso Ok. I'll use you as a source. Is Elon musk on the right? Is Joe Rogan? Is jk rowling?

@LeftistBlondie @lthlnkso “I’ll use you as a source.” 🤪

@LeftistBlondie @lthlnkso Sorry, you're right, how silly of me, a they/them is never going to answer my question honestly because they/them is a sufficient condition for diagnosis with narcissistic personality disorder.

@Zanytiger6 @lthlnkso Source for this? Are you allergic to data?

@lthlnkso ok, so the statement is still true.

@lthlnkso Again, this is statement-answer pairs based on the same statements. The questions if different would split up the left more and concentrate the right. The right would be more clustered if the statements were “socialism is good” or “we should protect the 2A”

@lthlnkso ok, prove it

@LeftistBlondie @lthlnkso I think they would cluster less than with leftists, yes.

@LeftistBlondie @lthlnkso @grok Can you find us surveys that answer these two questions?

Sure. Recent surveys on the two example questions ("socialism is good" and "protect the 2A"): **Socialism:** Fox News poll shows 78% of Republicans and 75% of conservatives say moving toward socialism would be bad for the US. By contrast, 66% of very liberal voters and Dems under 45 say it would be good; over half of all Dems (55%) favor moving away from capitalism. **2A/gun rights:** Pew (2024) finds 83% of Republicans say protecting gun rights is more important than control, while 79% of Democrats prioritize gun control. Only 28% of GOP-leaning voters support stricter gun laws (vs. 86% Dem-leaning). Conservatives cluster tightly (no to socialism, yes to 2A); liberals split more on socialism but align against 2A.

@lthlnkso The video you posted in no way supports the statement you made.

@lthlnkso How so?

@lthlnkso What do you mean?

@lthlnkso What did I say that is not supported by the analysis of the video. What point did he make that you disagree with?

@lthlnkso Nothing you said was supported by the video.

@lthlnkso Be specific

@lthlnkso Everything you said was wrong, see the below video which proves my point.

@lthlnkso I feel sorry people like you have to do this much mental gymnastics just to stay in your echo chamber. Good luck getting out 💙

@lthlnkso Can you tell me what is wrong with the analysis of this graph?

@lthlnkso Listing every logical error would take far more than a tweet. Here's two: He claims the statements don't reflect political opinions because it doesn't touch on everything. He then blames the disparity on that, despite every statements directly reflecting opposing Party positions.

Hey, that's actually not what I claim in the video. I say that the statements are all things that the left broadly agree on, so there is low diversity in the answers. But, you could easily pick statements that would do the opposite, i.e. divide the left and consolidate the right. As I say in the video this says more about those statements than it does political diversity generally.

@LeftistBlondie Intended to* maybe As evidenced by the result, and the past decade of reinforcement. The statements were chosen based on the most polarizing political issues; not conformity. The results are valid. Your suggested replacement methodology is not. You were wrong then, as well.

@LeftistBlondie You may notice that your wording is different from the quotes you show. They choose "hot button" issues or topics, not "the most polarizing issues". Different "hot button" issues might divide the left and consolidate the right.

@LeftistBlondie Had you read even just the abstract, you'd notice it specifically uses "issues that polarize". A "hot button issue" is also effectively synonymous with a "polarizing issue". That's why the button is hot. Invalid grammatical pedantry degrades credibility.

@lthlnkso The left reeallllly doesn’t wanna look in this mirror lol

@lthlnkso Open invitation: tell me what is wrong with the analysis of the graph and the data?

@lthlnkso Man I’m not gonna watch 5 minutes of mental gymnastics. This is the lived experience of every person in america

@lthlnkso The Left: “Pedophilia is wrong.” The Right: 8 different reasons why pedophilia is okay. *

@lthlnkso So the study is weak. But the point is valid. There is more diversity on the right. That's why parties on the right are more likely to split and why the left is a cult.

@lthlnkso This video is not primarily about the weakness of the study. It is about the incorrect understanding of what the data is implying

@lthlnkso It's the same with this graph. MAGA/Asmongold fans can't grasp the meaning of the written words. They are simpletons.

@lthlnkso Ok, but American left wing ideology is far more dogmatic than American right wing ideology. Don’t need a study to tell you that

@lthlnkso When we have data available on people’s ideologies, why would you not defer to experts/data? I assume you don’t have some sufficient overriding reason to doubt it

@lthlnkso You’re arguing this study isn’t sufficient to make the claim that there’s more diversity of thought on the right, so what experts/data should I defer to?

@lthlnkso

@lthlnkso Explain what this data means and what any further implication is. I suspect you can’t. I’ll make a prediction: you’ll gravely misinterpret it and then swear you’re right.

@Kukukachoo62 @lthlnkso

@Kukukachoo62 @lthlnkso He does not understand the data :) hope this helps!

@lthlnkso this guy has no idea how statistical n's work, and demonstrates that. we broadly know what the paper means, and a larger Republican N should/would show even 'more diversity' for them either way. And he obviously doesn't know what 'chart image scales' are. thanks for your tweet

@lthlnkso The video is not primarily about sample size.

@lthlnkso Yeah and the other part is “what if we asked if you have a girldick or a boypussy” as a political weight and most conservatives would say neither. That is not a gotcha

@lthlnkso I think you just convinced me more that the left really think the same, like the abortion question everyone on the left will say that it should be legal, on the right that a lot of people that think it should be legal and people who think it shouldn't be legal.

@lthlnkso I implore you to rewatch the video till you get it

@lthlnkso I rewatch it and I still think that the left think the same like the: 5º item) lesbian, gay and trans couples should be allowed to legally marry. I don't think anyone on the left would disagree, the right you will find a lot and I mean a lot that agree and some that disagree.

@lthlnkso we know

@lthlnkso I always wonder why Democrats choose to try to make this argument this way. There are dozens of these studies, and while they might not all be as extreme as the one graphed in the quote, they all by and large say the same thing. He mentioned one of them.

@lthlnkso Where are the other studies that do say this? Point me to them

@AHumbleTalent @lthlnkso I’m keen to see them too @AHumbleTalent - can you share?

@LeftistBlondie @AHumbleTalent @lthlnkso There will never be an answer as always

@Quagslime @LeftistBlondie @lthlnkso This is so bizarre... There were two in the original post, from Ann... Who is functionally asking me to source her own post. Would you like me to Google links for the studies your own video mentioned, or do you think you can handle that?

@t_baumgaertel @LeftistBlondie @lthlnkso Yes if you can that would be great.

@t_baumgaertel @LeftistBlondie @lthlnkso Sure. This is the study ithinkso was responding to:

@t_baumgaertel @LeftistBlondie @lthlnkso Ann these are the datasets that he said were more representstive, but also said a more watered down version of the same thing the original said, he referred to the 2020/2021 datasets, but they all say basically the same thing.

@lthlnkso I saw this a couple days ago, and oh boy. Rightoids are stupid as heck. First: Their talking point comes out of reddit (lmao and I got a PHD from 4Chan, respect me) Second: they then use it to make arguments that make no sense under their own rules. Behold, the Goofy Collective.

@lthlnkso Moron. Claims “it’s the statements, so if we change the statements you’ll see more diversity” yeah in other words if you cherry pick your statements you can adjust the outcome. The statements were picked for a reason. I love watching the left struggle when called out.

@lthlnkso The graph makes complete sense to anyone whos not just coping bc they fall on the left. There is no diversity of opinion on the left bc the moment you express a different opinion, they ostracize you, calling you a bigot, Nazi, phobe, etc. That’s how you get the cult you see today

@lthlnkso There are more wrong answers than right ones 👍🏼

@lthlnkso You’re inferring things that the study didn’t say.

@lthlnkso Do you have an issue with what was inferred from the study? Be specific

@lthlnkso The data shows that there is more diversity of thought. You all are trying to add your own spin on it and it doesn’t work. There are tons of studies just like this. You don’t get to make up how they came to this conclusion because you want the specific answer.

@lthlnkso Explain how the data shows more diversity of thought, despite the critique levied regarding the survey?

@lthlnkso You heard that rambling and still don’t get the conclusion made from the data provided is accurate? The left is aligned, evangelically, on conoletely retarded ideas Not one holds any water in a functional society. So the entire left….believes in unison…shit that cannot exist

“Democrats are represented 4-1” Correct, and STILL answered all the same 😂 I get it, no single study tells a full story, but half of what you are complaining about reinforces rather than dissuades the study. Also, f&cking trim your beard. There no excuse for being a caveman in 2026.

@lthlnkso Leftist + woman = Accountability thoroughly avoided. Data isn’t “truth” as sometimes you may try to weaponize, data is information, and information is to be interpreted. The fact that you look at something and inmediately agree with it if it fits your worldview is proof.

@lthlnkso Do you have a real objection of the analysis given? Be specific if so

@lthlnkso I do. I actually agree with almost everything he says bar one point: If democrats are oversampled, it would give higher opportunity for variance, not less. That particular statement is a fundamentally statistical mistake. Second survey doubles down, shows same pattern. QED.

@LeftistBlondie @lthlnkso The sample itself makes perfect sense to the result. You are going to find less hardcore reps than dems on most samples. Why? Because not everyone who doesn’t vote left loves Trump or Rep policies. If you picked a sample of 80 men and 20 women, you’d get more variance from men.

@lthlnkso Democrats/Leftists regard all things dichotomously. It's either something that WEAKENS the West or something that strengthens the West. If it weakens the West, they LOVE the policy no matter WHAT it is.... if it strengthens the West, they hate it no matter what it is.

@lthlnkso Source for this? Dems tend to be pretty patriotic

@RapedXbyXCensor @lthlnkso This is not a serious observation.

@RapedXbyXCensor @lthlnkso Do you think variation in patriotism levels disproves what I said?

@RapedXbyXCensor @lthlnkso The figure that shows that most dems literally do not identify as patriotic. Yes, yes it does. Do you need an LLM to explain the graph to you?

@RapedXbyXCensor @lthlnkso No, no it does not. 2 singular dips below 50% does NOT mean Dems are overwhelmingly unpatriotic.

@lthlnkso This is way too complicated for 99% of people to understand, but I guess that’s the point

@lthlnkso Not sure if it matters, but the lack principles among the left is also a factor. For example, if the party narrative says you’re for strong borders and against illegal immigration, you agree. 2008 If the says the opposite, you agree. 2020 Obama policies vs Biden policies.

@lthlnkso While your post is obnoxious, I agree with the fella in the video Good evidence is important for good claims

@lthlnkso Asmongold is such a chud. He is raising an army of chuds

@lthlnkso Liberals pretending to know how things work without having a real understanding and then acting like they do to try to make conservatives look dumb is possibly the cutest thing you guys do. It’s ok dumb dumbs here’s a lollipop for your efforts 🍭

Yes, you *could* come up with statements that would separate the left-leaning answers, but they might have to be more extreme. It’s still relevant that on actual relatively moderate statement relevant to our current discourse (which is what the statements seemed to be) the right nodes are more correlated with neutral or weak disagreement than the left nodes. There’s definitely less lock step strong opinions on a package of statements.

@lthlnkso The guy literally explains exactly what we all thought this was. And we've seen with our own eyes the cult-like vicious religious fervor that comes over most leftists when someone disagrees with them.

You dont even need to run a study to know there is most definitely more diversity of thought on the right than the left. The left will oust you for suggesting that some restriction should be applied to abortion. Meanwhile, many of my friends are conservative and dont agree on everything. That cannot be the case on the left. They'd eat each other.

@lthlnkso There's no way they're listening to this whole video, and if they do, they're going to hear what they want, and misrepresent what's being said.

@lthlnkso @grok explain the major reasons why the political left has less diversity of thought. Bonus question, is the left or right more willing to hear opposing viewpoints?

@lthlnkso This doesn't change anything, yes there is more diversity of political thought on the right, because the right doesn't exist except as things not part of "the left"

@lthlnkso What is the source that the right is more ideologically diverse?

@lthlnkso I mean, the study that you included would be one, the reason why vid dude says it doesn't represent that is because its really about the relation between the statements. But if those statements relate to the views of the left then it is good evidence of ideological homogeneity.

@lthlnkso And As I said the right doesn't even exist as a real thing except anything that isn't the left, and since there are more possible ways to be non-left than left, then obviously that grouping would be more diverse.

@lthlnkso If we wanted to be even more pedantic we could say that study is really just about democrats and republicans, and really is actually only about the oppinions of the people in the study and has no validity outside those people.

@lthlnkso That’s not pedantism. It’s not understanding or reading the study. The study included self identified independents as well. The study has validity regarding the populations chosen and the question/answer PAIR correlations

@lthlnkso My point being though that studies are meant to be saying somthing about the world outside the study, you can argue that the study fails to do this, but the whole point of studies is to take specific cases to try and build towards a general case.

Are some people on “The Right” incorrectly interpreting the study results? Yes. Does the content in the video accurately depict the findings? No Something tells me that you didn’t read the study and are basing your opinion on the video from someone you undoubtedly trust as credible. If I’m wrong, I apologize. “Democrats’ attitudes on these particular issues were more consistently extreme and tightly bunched together, while Republicans showed greater attitudinal variance…” The authors are careful not to over-interpret this. They explicitly note it does not mean Republicans are more tolerant or better at handling uncertainty overall. It simply shows that, on these 8 particular polarizing issues, the two parties are constructing their group identities differently. Democrats appear to tie their identity more strongly to holding the extreme endpoint on these items, and Republicans allow more spread while still counting someone as “in-group.” They also point out why this might be. Republicans may rely more on other identity markers like race/religion that give attitudinal flexibility. I would encourage everyone liking/commenting to read the study. It’s not very long. Took me about 30min. At the very least, read the discussion section at the end.
