Spiderverse used AI in production

idk how many times we gotta tell y'all this isn't GenAI and the Spider-verse team is staunchly against GenAI

It doesn't matter how deluded you wanna be about it, the only difference here is the source of the training data.

@IsThisA3DModel No, the difference is they didn't just type "make me some creases yo" into ChatGPT and slopped that shit out with no talent or effort.

@IsThisA3DModel You can use any tool lazily. Novice animators often overrely on frame interpolation (tweening), another automated tool.

@TheComet93 @IsThisA3DModel Apples to oranges that’s pretty obvious to everyone

@TheComet93 @IsThisA3DModel Explain to me how

@TheComet93 @IsThisA3DModel It’s been explained to you multiple times that there is a huge qualitative difference in the most commonly criticized forms of AI use (incredibly minimal prompting) when compared to pre-existing animation tools, but I think you’re being intentionally obtuse about this

@TheComet93 @IsThisA3DModel Explain those qualitative criticisms that don't amount to lazy use like with other automated tools.

Come now. You know that's not what people mean when they say "ai art". It's unbecoming to pretend not to understand.

If the category is somehow different, it is up to the anti-AI people to define the actual distinction which explicates this. Otherwise for the sake of consistency, I must view them the same.

This is the reason I've always been pro-AI, I cannot define a distinction that is secure with previous technological advances in art, online derivative art communities, and abstract art. AI art is merely the continuation of these principles.

Well, the distinction is the scale and accessibility, right? It's a sufficiently advanced technology that the massive difference in degree amounts to a difference in kind. As such, the intuitions and ideoform we developed for the old world can't be relied upon.

Is it any greater degree than photography?

I would say yes, obviously, without question.

I mean for the degree of input for photography vs AI, I would say AI has more.

Okay, make your case. Why do you think that?

This entire thread is just OP arguing in bad faith: "Explain how this and generative AI are different." "~Explains~" "That doesn't count for anything. This is exactly the same as AI."

overhated aspect of AI and im dying on that hill

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who has maintained consistency with the old ways. Technology is a gift that bolsters freedom of expression and democratizes access for the individual. It doesn't harm it.

AI being used as a tool.

Yeah that's what the pro-AI crowd has supported this whole time

That is ML not gen Ai ML is mostly everywhere including your own phone which uses ML even before image Gen or any of the AI shit boomed up. FaceID is ML,autocorrect has ML,Gmail filters have ML,recommendation systems have ML Gen AI uses training data from the Internet while ML is just dumb prediction

This is not generative ai, "anti-ai" stuff is made to be against generative ai specifically

this is not generative ai. this is using a program as a tool to help speed the process

AI is an umbrella term, and the several replies to this post proves they don't know what the hell they're talking about.

can't believe you don't have twitter blue, rage bait for the love of the game

This is a common technique alot of animation studios have done, ML was a thing wayy before ai and Gen ai. You are performative if you think it’s the same and it’s “slop” because of it. Your favorite animations likely used some machine learning algorithms. Movies like “UP” used some forms of machine learning.

machine learning is very different from generative ai

This was a totally insular application of machine learning, trained on human labor employed on a project for that specific project, and it is basically an exception to every moral argument against AI in creative fields

people will recite the entire training pipeline just to avoid saying AI. pure gymnastics.

Ok i checked your replies, this not generative AI, it doesn't steal unconsenting artist work. its like in a video game a enemy has a AI too attack, would you consider that generative AI?

"this isnt gen ai its a learning algorithm"

Did you notice that he mentioned AI but didn't specify the type, and they're talking about GenAI?

The responses to this tweet prove to me that there are a LOT of “anti-ai” people who have no fucking idea what generative ai is

Man you people are just uneducated. you claim to be a math major but can’t differentiate between machine learning and generative AI

completely different btw, if you make an entire system from scratch in order to make your art, that's art in and of itself

This guy doesnt understand the difference between machine learning and generative ai, point and laugh

this is reinforcement learning ai. completely different than generative

Crazy how what this bts explains is that is not the same as generative and still doesn't get through some skulls

I don’t know where the misunderstanding happened but this isn’t comparable to a LLM because the database and generation is limited to a set few pieces of tech in the office space + the database is made to do ONE thing, it’s not generalized

The community notes say ML is different from GenAI. My brother in Christ, GenAI is deep learning, a subset of ML. So GenAI is ML. I get the argument of training data, but GenAI is still ML. People definitely don't understand this.

if someone builds a hammer to hammer nails, that is a tool if someone buys a robot to steal that guys hammer to hammer nails, that is theft and laziness

twitter user learns what a neural network is

Do you....understand whats the difference between machine learning and gen ai? Seriously how can you could be so confidence about something you don't even understand and act like "okey i don't get your point but i think im in the right",like what? Please find a book, or do some research that explain the definition of each, then try to comprehend it, try to understand it, try to actually read what you mention and see why people don't respect your opinion.

if only there was some way for the avg person to understand the difference between an expert using a GenAI tool and vibe-coding/drawing/animating/etc.

The entire film is still hand animated, the VFX used AI for machine learning, which is a different use than Generative Ai. GenAI leeches off artwork without consent, VFX Ai is used with purposeful outlines fed to it by artists. No artists = No movie.

All they do is push the finish line because these people have been raised by algorithms their entire life

You need to be able to tell the difference between types of ai if you're going to advocate against it

Wait till people learn how Photoshop works.