正在加载视频...

视频加载失败

spot the difference.

211,658 次观看 • 4 个月前 •via X (Twitter)

60 条评论

h 的头像
h4 个月前

Mbappe’s is all one action, Jj’s is loads of small actions

alex 的头像
alex4 个月前

what’s allowing mbappe’s action to appear more ‘seamless’ & fluid though?

h 的头像
h4 个月前

Repetition & his ability to already know what follows each action. Similar to a train, all connected at the base, and travels at the same speed.

alex 的头像
alex4 个月前

agreed w/ first sentence but disagree w/ the second. mbappe’s rhythm [speed] becomes much faster w/ the stepovers compared to his approach. that’s what allows him to create separation and what elevates him above the rest imo. an incredible understanding of different rhythms.

Rimedi 的头像
Rimedi4 个月前

Mbappe legit no wasted movement, it was all so seamless

alex 的头像
alex4 个月前

on the same line of thinking, why is mbappe capable of looking so ‘seamless’ though in relation to JJ?

Wak. 的头像
Wak.4 个月前

@r1medi JJ’s focus is on the dribble, Mbappe’s is on the release.

alex 的头像
alex4 个月前

@r1medi yup, yup. those focuses are dictated by the drill they’re doing though, what’s the innate difference between their actions?

alex 的头像
alex4 个月前

no wrong answers to this btw, but there’s a particular difference present here that elevates kylian above the rest.

alex 的头像
alex4 个月前

really, really enjoying the discourse this has created. so many observations i hadn’t spotted and considered — a nice reminder of what this app is capable of. will let it marinate for a while then drop my own observation!

alex 的头像
alex4 个月前

the difference which i believe elevates mbappe to different levels.

. 的头像
.4 个月前

Power, acel/decel process is the significant difference Separated by genetics & age ofc

alex 的头像
alex4 个月前

latter ofc, would never compare the two. spot on fella

. 的头像
.4 个月前

Yh yh I get ur intention with the post bro, built good discussions with it. A nice example for JJ to know the dribbling/outplaying process ‘looks like’ in final form, which is the purpose of the technical + S&C training. Ignore anyone tryna purposely misunderstand

alex 的头像
alex4 个月前

spot on, exact sort of clip i’d use if i’d be coaching a playa on this. & the discourses that have stemmed from this has really made me want to get into coaching. something i’m pursuing regardless of everything this summer

𝙁 的头像
𝙁4 个月前

kid vs mbappe

alex 的头像
alex4 个月前

…

𝙁 的头像
𝙁4 个月前

i hear it but can’t say it’s not about jj when the vids including him. would of been better to use an acc pro in these comparisons to make it more interesting imo.

HarveyDiamonds 的头像
HarveyDiamonds4 个月前

Careful, you’ll have his dad coming for your head

alex 的头像
alex4 个月前

nothing but love to JJ, his family and crew around him. future of yanited who is clearly committed to being the best version of himself as he can be. just wanting to raise a discussion is all!

kai 的头像
kai4 个月前

both thinking about different things (drill related though maybe) jj’s idea is to go past his man and prep for the 1v1 first and mbappes is to score

sj 的头像
sj4 个月前

Mbappe less choppy & eyes/head up more. It’s like drawing a circle vs drawing a square on paper. (Opposed situation vs semi/unopposed situation tho so hard to fully compare with JJ)

alex 的头像
alex4 个月前

yeah, should’ve prefaced it by saying that looking moreso at the innate quality of each action rather than the situation. what’s allowing kylian to look less choppy in this instance though?

sj 的头像
sj4 个月前

Arms stand out. Mbappe’s balance is spot on and his arms move perfectly to accelerate, de-accelerate & shift inside JJ in this case, his arms are moving quicker than his feet and aren’t as in-sync (expected given age and body is still growing)

alex 的头像
alex4 个月前

true, don’t believe JJ loses balance whatsoever throughout these clips though. the difference:

sj 的头像
sj4 个月前

Who is her even training with here? Looks familiar

alex 的头像
alex4 个月前

jack hunter — known as Players Plus on tiktok & insta. unsure if he has a handle on here.

sj 的头像
sj4 个月前

Need to follow his work. His coaching points are sharp

alex 的头像
alex4 个月前

shame i can’t find him on here, would be such an interesting, knowledgeable voice on here.

mr barry’s brother 的头像
mr barry’s brother4 个月前

jj has good fundamentals but he’s constantly in fast motion and that leads him to pick the direction he’s going in way before he even faces the defender properly or waits for the defender to commit mbappe already knows his spot cuz he’s not rushing, waits for the…

utdred 的头像
utdred4 个月前

A lot of it has to do with biomechanical differences tho. JJ doesn’t have the same explosiveness as Mbappe so needs to rely on more tight touches and Misdirection whereas Mbappe can just feint and Burst. They’re different dribblers better off comparing JJ to Neymar type dribblers

alex 的头像
alex1 个月前

standards this

melodytalksfooty 的头像
melodytalksfooty4 个月前

its the tempo. if thats JJ he needs to slow down the action of taking on the player, then you use your physicality qualities like rapid steps and acceleration to create separation even more so at an elite level but he needs to slow the action down a bit gives him more options OTB

🧣 的头像
🧣4 个月前

I’ve never kicked ball irl tell me please

xlv 的头像
xlv4 个月前

Head down

alex 的头像
alex4 个月前

good spot, but that’s moreso informed by JJ being in a 1v1 session rather than a team session. a clue:

xlv 的头像
xlv4 个月前

Then something along the lines of rhythm…jj more deft touches KM more constant touches but smoother motion?

alex 的头像
alex4 个月前

rhythm is the same word i use, but it’s not *necessarily* to do w/ the number of touches.

O.G 的头像
O.G4 个月前

Difference is basically just experience and plus JJ is practicing

Bush Magi 的头像
Bush Magi4 个月前

Kyky hips are more neutral and his stance is more upright so the defender has little signal for where he’s going when he eventually explodes

🥡🥢 的头像
🥡🥢4 个月前

lewis dunk, tarkowski, milenkovic, ballard, bassey waiting to smash little jj on his debut like …

Zite 的头像
Zite4 个月前

Mbappe’s taken a more minimalist approach to beating tchouameni but that probably stems from the differing nature of the drills

TwoFootedTakes 的头像
TwoFootedTakes4 个月前

A lot of rubbish in the comments .. instincts are instincts and cannot be described

Silas Eddie 的头像
Silas Eddie4 个月前

Jj's body form is very poor on the ball. His trainers need to work on that else he's going to struggle to perform at the elite level.

Jalen 的头像
Jalen4 个月前

JJ reminds me a lot of young Pulisic

:/ 的头像
:/4 个月前

The bio mechanics is already well explained here, I would like to factor in another aspect:

Ricky 的头像
Ricky4 个月前

Mbappe only has 1 wasted touch. JJ has a few but is more twitchy

Leo njo Leo 的头像
Leo njo Leo4 个月前

Mbappe dispossessed him like a bitch.

💡 的头像
💡4 个月前

JJ is slower but because he's younger too so that makes sense

Young King Favour 2 的头像
Young King Favour 24 个月前

You can't be real .

+ 的头像
+4 个月前

Body movement on the feints for Kiki disguises the intention & he charges towards the hips, selling the possibility of going left or right until ankle shift execution. JJ does some of these, but they're different scenarios he doesn't charge at hips cause he ain't in a 1vs1.

alex 的头像
alex4 个月前

yeah, different situations [starting back to goal versus traditional 1v1] so kylian is able to use his hips/shoulders to disguise and ankle to deceive. for what i’m focusing on, focus on the ‘innate’ quality of both’s actions.

+ 的头像
+4 个月前

I think the reason why the execution looks so different is that JJ appears to be thinking more about the execution of one action to the next, while Kiki is just routinely executing the action that will get me the angles for the goal. Reps and physical development are my reasons y

The Beast Incarnate 的头像
The Beast Incarnate4 个月前

One is 15 and still learning

Tommy 的头像
Tommy4 个月前

Difference is video 1 is a 15 year old having 1 to 1 coaching and video 2 is World Cup winner mbappe in training

D 的头像
D4 个月前

2v different 1 v 1situations. jj is working more on receiving with back to goal and evading the press ( this has to be done faster because you have less time and defender is closer to you) whereas mbappe is driving at the defender with more space between them. (So slower)

Waqz 的头像
Waqz4 个月前

What are u comparing, two totally diff scenarios

Scouser 的头像
Scouser4 个月前

One is training against a fat random fella. The other isn’t. Did I get it right

87-K 🧲 的头像
87-K 🧲4 个月前

Real baller

J5zee 的头像
J5zee4 个月前

Every single of Mbappes touches are important to the move, no wasted energy or wasted movements