Stay and Fight, or Fork Off?

Spamcoin is the "fork off" option. BLAKE2b is "stay and fight"

Thanks for sticking your neck out for what you believe is right. Certainly not enough of this kind of people around.

What if the root cause of the money problem is that the average person is dumb? which means a new successful chain will eventually be compromised just like bitcoin would we even need bitcoin if the average person demanded their government to stop printing money? did satoshi try to solve money, when people are the problem?

You've done a great job the node war tour of duty Matthew! Your material was a huge part of how we exposed Shitcoin Core™ and the grifters/attackers, educated about spam attacks, #Bitcoin social layer and ethos, among many more. I hope you get a chance to rest and recuperate.

I think it’s better to stay and fight. Losing one battle doesn’t mean losing the war.Bitcoin’s enemies and fiat maxi would love nothing more than for all opposition to leave so they can do whatever they want. But if there is a group that constantly speaks up, agitates, criticizes, and mobilizes people, it becomes much harder for them to push their fiat crypto agenda and the fiatization of Bitcointo build another fiat Ethereum on Bitcoin .You need to keep fighting and educating people

I'm not interested in playing the role of controlled opposition. How well has that worked in politics over the past 80 years?

Only if you’re bought and paid for by the fiat banking cartel and the people who control the money printer to play the role of controlled opposition. If you’re truly free and willing to fight, it’ll work just fine.

We fought a good fight. But Bitcoin-SHA256 is not fertile ground to grow freedom money any more. It is too polluted with “big Bitcoin” industry. Bitcoin could never be stopped, it could only be slowly captured from within.

Saylor's AI videos come across as humiliation rituals.

I love this extremely clear stance. No ambiguity, just pure big balls Thanks again for all your work

Stay and fight, Matt. We need one community. We also need to discuss this on better terms and with enough time. Nothing is urgent right now. Drop that useless alternative-chain that benefits no one, and get back to the internal discussion.

The whole point of the video is that discussion and reform never work. I'm not interested in politicking and building consensus with people who are clueless about Bitcoin being under attack. I spend the last 24 months doing that, and I'm done now

It’s understandable, and you have every right to be tired of this whole dance. But I hope that, after taking a break, you’ll get back into action. Even though I disagree with you on some things, I think you’re a very valuable member of the community, and I’ve really enjoyed most of your videos.

Bitcoin Remnant !!! I like that name

I still don’t understand why this has to be “Stay and Fight, or Fork Off?” 😂 If the OP_RETURN increase bothers you, just run: datacarriersize=83 Old 83-byte policy restored. No crusade, no civil war, no hardfork required. Your node, your rules. 😉₿

What bothers me is large mining pools getting to decide consensus rules like they did on 8/8

I understand that concern. What bothers me more is being so convinced your side is right that you’re willing to follow a fork over it. That’s where it starts feeling less like defending Bitcoin and more like cult thinking to me. I’ll stick with Bitcoin and datacarriersize=83...

The problem is that mempool filters like that are pretty meaningless when 80% of the network is running malware like Core v30 and v31, and the mining pools, Core, and Big Bitcoin are all hostile to plebs

I understand your concern, Matt. But when Core is “malware,” miners are hostile, “Big Bitcoin” is against the plebs, and the answer is to follow a fork, it starts sounding extremely cultish...! Still respect you, and hope you return from the error of your ways!

Shartcoin University

Your meme game is so weak

Lol, you're right I'll up my game

can you clarify on what grounds you say that their chain is the main chain, not ours? To me, it’s clear that their chain is illegitimate (given that it was decided on in secret, via a backroom deal) so should not be called Bitcoin. I think it’s extremely important to not abandon our identity as legitimate Bitcoin just because the fiat world and traitors have a different opinion.

@DonalDevine I agree with you. I would say that our chain will be the longest valid chain. CoreChain is definitely illegitimate

Well said

Stay and Fight.

I don't think it's appropriate to denote miner payment in dollars. We know exactly what we are paying them for the rest of time, in bitcoin, paid via debasement that we all voluntarily sign up for when we choose to hodl. Our UTXOs are the ones that will prove to be valuable 👍

I 💯 agree with this take! Many, many thanks to YOU sir! With many years of absolute disdain, total frustration of captured bCore & their heinous group of statist cucks. I am NOW, so relieved to move forward to freer pastures! bitcoin BIP-110 BLAKE2b is money - FTW!🧡

Stay and fight, of course. That's not even a question. There have been around 100 Bitcoin hardforks (over a handful with PoW change) and they are *all dead*. Those who believe that Blake2b will go a different trajectory need to have their brain checked.

You are missing the forest through the trees here. Blake2b will be captured the same way sha256 was. The fundamental design of the Bitcoin whitepaper is Node=Miner. Read it again and again, same result. Forking to "fire the miners" i agree with however, Bitcoin is and always was going to become a suitcoin. I know you don't want to hear this, but Monero XMR on RandomX has already solved every problem you seek to solve. ASIC resistance is the only way. Blake2b will be captured the same way and you will eventually come to the same conclusion that Monero is the real Bitcoin. Don't believe me? Then why is it banned almost everywhere? Because the people who want state control of stored value cannot control Monero.

100% with you. Have you seen ?

Stay and Fight, or Fork Off?

I agree. It's not like Blake2B plebs just instantly gave up. There were never ending discussions, arguing, then Knots implementation, and finally the bip110. None of which moved the needle. Why should we play a rigged game?

Understand your position. Still not 100% where I land. Philosophically, i’m with blake coin. But the economic fiat weight i’ve contributed sits with the chain that actually still has a fiat price. If 20% of nodes signal for BIP-110, 80% don’t. Isn’t consensus to not signal?

No because those 80% did not run a URSF. So the "vote" was like 20% in favor (UASF), 0% against, and 80% abstain. Real percentage for BIP-110 UASF was more like 25-30% once you take into account Core's sybil attack nodes that lowered the percentage

@DonalDevine Running core-29.4 now via @umbrel with latest update from core. Op-Return set to 84. I get to use my node again, while pondering and exploring blake2b. #bitaxe machines still pointed at Love your content @mattkratter

You have stood with integrity and reason. Your commitment is transparently sincere. You have been my best and most trusted Bitcoin educator. Thank you! When the definitive history of Bitcoin is written, the PoW change to Blake2b will prove to have been the move that preserved the pursuit of ideal money. In the meantime, legacy Bitcoin offers potential decades of lessons before it fails, and I hope you continue to observe and comment on its developments.

Another fud spreader off his rocker - high on the LDJ kool-aide

Farewell @mattkratter. I will always appreciate everything you have done for Bitcoin, which is still the best money ever created.

BLAKE2b is the free market's long bet. A spam-resistant chain competing for the title of sound money. Small today, but if Bitcoin's block space keeps getting eaten by dpam, this is the exit hatch: the chain that stayed disciplined wins the long game, even starting from zero.

Bitcoin-Blake2b we are legion #Bip110

the miners failed the test on august 8, 2026. that's all you need to know. i look forward to the hard fork. exciting times.

Outstanding.🧡🫡

What happened to your "first-mover" position? Seemed to be one of your primary shots against any contending shipcoin.

A chain without morals isn't a chain worth fighting for, it took them 10 years and an army of shysters but they finally got their way. Enjoy titanic 2.0 lol.

Core will continue to make mistakes and push people away. Knots will continue to win support. This is the right strategy. Blakecoin will just become the next bash and you know it.

Sounds like you didn’t watch or digest the video

I did. I just don't agree with your conclusions. The miners decision was rational. If a lesson must be learned from BIP-110, it is that there is no shortcut around getting consensus (not measured in node counts). The hard fork is just another rushed attempt to find a shortcut.

as a practical matter, selling in September is selling around the four year cycle low. Even if you don't believe in the biggest Bitcoin chain, it would be smarter to wait 2.5 years or so and then sell. Oftentimes staying and fighting is the right decision, and many institutions internally reform. Interestingly, the Catholic Church internally reformed over the course of about one hundred years in response to the Protestant Reformation (a response known as the Counter-Reformation within the Church). I get that disillusionment has come: BIP110 people thought Bitcoin worked like XYZ but it instead worked like ABZ and so they want to give up on it, fork off, and take their toys elsewhere. As you said, that's totally your call. In Bitcoin, unlike in the Catholic Church, there is no canonical single chain or source of truth. It is literally what anyone wants to do (change the PoW algorithm, change the total supply, add in Ethereum like Turing complete smart contracts) and how many people they can get to follow them. But as someone else pointed out here, why should nodes have more or equal power to mining nodes? Mining nodes have more skin in the game, more capital investment in Bitcoin. So the original assumption that X% of the nodes going for BIP110 it would be enough to sway the whole chain ended up being incorrect. No one knows what could happen in the next five years. BIP110 people could take the long march through the institutions and seed people onto the Core github/source code team. They could sway big miners and even Saylor himself to their way of thinking. I understand if you personally don't want to do this, but it is a valid strategy and could work. Either way, I wish you well and have enjoyed your content. My personal opinion is that, even with these bad ideas, Bitcoin still serves its main purpose.