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“Swift, the original idea was factor complexity (…) massively failed, in my opinion (…) Swift has turned into a gigantic, super complicated bag of special cases, special syntax, special stuff” lesson learned from Chris Lattner on Swift

138,035 просмотров • 2 лет назад •via X (Twitter)

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Фото профиля Marcin Krzyzanowski
Marcin Krzyzanowski2 лет назад

“instead of fixing the core, what the team did, both when I was there, so partially my fault, but also subsequently, is they started adding all these special cases (…) a lot of this stuff got added under extreme time pressure to enable a feature like #SwiftUI. And there's a bunch of stuff that feeds into that, as well as just the language gets more and more and more and more complicated.”

Фото профиля Marcin Krzyzanowski
Marcin Krzyzanowski2 лет назад

the whole interview with Chris Lattner

Фото профиля kache
kache2 лет назад

The only reason anyone uses swift is because they are forced to

Фото профиля Marcin Krzyzanowski
Marcin Krzyzanowski2 лет назад

not necessary today. but that's how it got popular. it wasn't by choice, for sure.

Фото профиля Dr. Michael Lauer
Dr. Michael Lauer2 лет назад

Indeed. But dont‘t you dare to express this opinion on the Swift forum, the thread will be closed soon.

Фото профиля Marcin Krzyzanowski
Marcin Krzyzanowski2 лет назад

I don’t feel welcomed and safe on swift forum, therefore I do not participate in these discussions

Фото профиля Rasmus Andersson
Rasmus Andersson2 лет назад

Yup. Swift’s problems: - Overly complex “all ideas combined” language - Single-vendor compiler (ie poor portability = risky investment)

Фото профиля Manuel Chakravarty🦋@tacticalgrace.justtesting.org
Manuel Chakravarty🦋@tacticalgrace.justtesting.org2 лет назад

Yes, but that happens with basically every programming language. C is somewhat of an exception, but also stuck in the stone ages. Go is to some extent an exception on purpose and limits itself in that way. I’m not saying that everything is perfect in Swift, but it’s pretty good.

Фото профиля Mark Cornelisse
Mark Cornelisse2 лет назад

I’ve been saying this for a long time. Objective-C is far easier to learn and use.

Фото профиля guillaume chereau
guillaume chereau2 лет назад

At this point swift seems to be as complicated as C++, basically a “write only” language.

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