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The Death of Discourse

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Serena 的头像
Serena1 年前

"Gender neutral" just means mixed sex. Women and girls are more likely to the victims of sex crimes in mixed sex facilities, this is well known & charities still campaign for single sex facilities in developing countries & refugee camps. Whilst out of the other side of their mouths encouraging people like you to mock women trying to retain ours here. Stop reading The Guardian.

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Queen Bee1 年前

You're funny. Wrong. But quite funny.

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Jonathan Pie1 年前

ok. I'll bite. What am I wrong about?

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thecommoner1 年前

@KingBobIIV “The Death of Discourse” occurred as far back as ten-years ago when Trump first ran for president; ONE MONTH into his campaign, Newsweek wrote this piece, for the first time aligning “fascism” with Trump’s politics. Ten-years of hit-jobs radicalising his and his voters opponents.

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Michael 🇦🇺🦴🪏1 年前

@everythingj4ck @JonathanPieNews @KingBobIIV Or, hear me out, Trump is doing things that are usually considered fascist. Have you considered that?

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thecommoner1 年前

@JonathanPieNews @KingBobIIV You’re a palaeontologist, surrounded by historical artefacts all the time, a mediator of past to present, but still go around wielding very weighty human-historical words and diluting their meaning in the process like an ahistorical retard? You should be ashamed of yourself.

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Michael 🇦🇺🦴🪏1 年前

@everythingj4ck @JonathanPieNews @KingBobIIV Hey @grok, objectively and succinctly, does Trump and his administration show tendencies that are historically aligned with fascism?

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Grok1 年前

Scholars debate if Trump's administration shows fascist tendencies. Fascism historically features authoritarian ultranationalism, dictatorial power, and opposition suppression. Some see alignments in his rhetoric (e.g., dehumanizing immigrants), election denial, and violence encouragement; others argue he operated within democratic systems without full totalitarianism. No consensus.

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Factseeking bec transparency is missing1 年前

Not sure about your diagnosis of violence being right biased, u seem unaware of antifa & trantifa who threaten violence daily & are emboldened. Labels of left/right barely make sense anymore, or slurs of transphobe or islamaphobe when it means 'I reject your belief system.'

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Graydispo1 年前

You helped enable and push the worldview of those that want to kill over words. 'Both sides', fuck you.

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Pointed Commentary1 年前

Yeah, too bad the Left's discourse began and ended with "punching Nazis is perfectly fine and by the way everyone on the Right is a Nazi".

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Jonny Velvet1 年前

Problem is people like Jonathan with his extreme woke agenda, the saddos that do watch him are being brainwashed by his massive flannel head. Jonathan is the problem, he is creating terrorists

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Campari 🤌🏼1 年前

Is it really still right v left after what we just saw?

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S.L Special1 年前

How can someone be so articulate but retarded at the same time?

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NicktheBiscuit1 年前

Just as disco gave us punk….wokeism will give us fascism.

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Britain People1 年前

#FreeSpeech

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DJW1 年前

Tom walker misses the point yet again.

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Skbytes1 年前

Totally agree with most of it jonathan, if people step back and look towards the government for sturing up division, this isn't a war against left or right but those in government who show leadership that stirs up this hate, Starmer chooses to put his head in the sand and gaslight everyone. Im with those people who marched in massive numbers on the weekend, if Starmer continues to look down on the right as a problem, then he'll have massive problems in the coming months as it'll only get bigger.

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Ken Dominy1 年前

Funny thing, it’s turning out that he wasn’t killed for the things he said but rather not doing what others wanted him to do. This is far from over.

Malc 的头像
Malc1 年前

And yet there are millions of us that don’t define ourselves as ‘right’ or ‘left’. I have opinions that would greatly upset both sides so I must fucked 😂

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Lord Bell-End Of Bonkington Hall1 年前

🤣 Love it. Totally predictable. The left are cuddly and nice, (apart from the CK assassin ofc course), but the right are vicious murderers. You're such an irritating twat.

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ResponsibleAdult1 年前

Decades of screaming 'Nazi' at everyone left of centre and now, when the children of your movement are slaughtering people for their speech its, 'Both sides need to calm down.' You still can't accept what your class has done.

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Dyspeptic Codger1 年前

Trump blamed "the left" because they've spent the last 10-15 years calling him and people like Charlie "fascists" and "Hitler". Hmmm.... quite a few people over here been doing that too. Like calling Tommy a "fascist" and a "racist" and "islamophobe" for the last 20.

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EvoMotoX1 年前

Fact check: Trump didn’t say he didn’t care about bringing the country together - he said he didn’t care about getting into trouble. Mis-quoting and mis-interpretating/twisting what people say is part of the problem…

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Robert Rawlinson1 年前

Simply one of the best things you have ever done. A compliment for christ sake.....no agenda......no reading between the lines.....and astonishing for me not sarcastic. Balance.......an opportunity the media and politicians could take....nah...so it's on you now JP!

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FascistsAreLosers1 年前

I've spent 2 years watching people minimise the Genocide of children in Gaza and several years demonizing immigrants. Now these same people venerate a right wing talking head just because of how he died. I'll save my pity for the children.

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Dorothy Horrible1 年前

If you really are concerned about the death of discourse, you should read this, @JonathanPieNews.

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Jez_ter1 年前

"Both sides " Fuck off!

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Nyle Reilly1 年前

Ah yes, let's just ignore the 2020 riots. Let's just ignore the fact the media have called people like Charlie Adolf Hitler for the past decade, let's just ignore the fact that Biden stood in front of a red hue, looking like Emperor Palpatine, to divide the country by saying

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Gervais brookhamster1 年前

Agree with most of that. However, while Musk has his haters, understandably, it's worth pointing out that his starlink communications mean that Ukraine have been able to fight on so long, would all his haters like him to withdraw it?

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IncognitoScotsman1 年前

What everyone is missing is that we are supposed to realise we’re all human and our political differences really don’t matter all that much. I am of the right, I don’t believe we should tax people to fund welfare, because welfare just ends up being abused. For example, if single mothers are subsidised, you end up with a spike in single motherhood as soon as that welfare is introduced. But, I understand the lefts wanting to level up those at the bottom. The right agrees with that too but at a community level, not state because the state will always weaponise against the people if given the chance. Politics has become a tribal sports game where I am better than you because I’m blue and you’re red. It’s stupid. If we actually talked to one another as human beings we might actually come up with some solutions away from government but everyone’s attention span is now that of a gold fish. Give it another week, Kirk will all but be forgotten and the next thing will take his place, because that is the nature of our world now. People running from one high emotion to the next are going to snap, it’s inevitable, both sides need to turn the temperature down and start talking.

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CelticGroyper1 年前

The idea that it's "both sides". Right-wingers didn't burn down cities, BLM did. Right-wingers didn't tear down statues, Leftists did. The Right didn't tear JK Rowling books off shelves and burn them the Left did. Destiny and Hasan Piker haven't been deplatformed, only the Right.

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nina1 年前

thank goodness for a reasonable take. felt like i was losing my mind.

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Before it's too late1 年前

You can't see how you shape this? A pretend reporter with a 'liberal' opinion. You brought on the anti debate side. You're the arm waving loon.

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Martin Moran1 年前

You acknowledge the puritanism of the Left. Yet you downplay the punishments meted out upon those who transgressed the rules they laid down. You also understate the violence & killings carried out by the Left & their associates. Both side are not 'equal' here.

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Just Having A Gander 🇬🇧1 年前

Fuck me, a video, but not about Labour...again!

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Malc1 年前

…and as for those people who bring imaginary religious nonsense into the political arena. We are being dragged back to the 12th century. All this ‘god’ and ‘praying’ nonsense that these people spout is as scary as it is embarrassing.

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Sparrowhawks1 年前

Try and think it through. How long have people been 'cancelled' for expressing any view which ran counter the prevalent 'woke' culture? How stupid does one need to be to not believe that there will be push back from the majority?

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Matthew Marsden1 年前

Hey @grok, how much of this speech is accurate?

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