The Death of Software.

Reverse engineering MW2 has little or nothing to do with breaking encryption algorithms and finding vulns in software implementations of said encryption. Unfortunately another case of baseless fear mongering.

I was mostly** referring to decomplication- which in itself is extremely difficult. It's about this being a stepping stone. I'm not saying that the models out now can decrypt complex algorithms. But at this rate, it doesn't even matter anymore if it can decompile 😭

I think you're missing the point entirely. Decompilation is not a risk to software. Its a risk to asshole billionaires trying to gate keep code for personal profit. All of these 'secure' systems rely on open source code. Every one.

Protecting code is not a sin, just like protecting money in a bank. The code is what made any digital product successful.

No one here is calling that a sin. You must be joking. Obscurity is not security. This is secure software 101. You ever heard of patents and trademarks before?

complete nonsense btw. computer illiteracy will kill us before ai does

I could make nearly a dozen arguments defending why what I wrote was valid, but anyone could reasonably say that compiled code acts as a “wall of protection” around a codebase. If it didn’t, companies would have their proprietary repos stolen and replicated left and right.

the code was never encrypted. institutions and network boundaries are the only things saving us here, which was true before ai and will be true after. you can tell me ai accelerates postings on the pirate bay but it doesnt make it anymore legal.

this also explains why there are more minecraft mods than chase bank mods

Me when I don't understand how these mods work

I think that literally is you.

Uh, no? Security by obscurity is not security at all. AI can't magically crack encryption algorithms. Reverse engineering software is something entirely different than hacking into bank accounts.

I didn't intent to say compiled code = encryption or that AI can magically crack complex algo. I’m saying compiled code creates a practical barrier to understanding a codebase. If AI makes reverse engineering significantly easier, that barrier gets weaker and that absolutely has security implications. I hope that makes sense.

I just don't buy this angle, because you know, open source exists. Compiled code or not should not matter. And of course AI can find bugs in systems. That is why it's useful!

This makes total sense if you don't know about the P != NP problem. AI will improve security because if it can deobscure code it can obscure it to very great proportions. The problem won't be that the AI couldn't break encryption it but that it will be financially infeasible or just straight up take decades. So basically, we will just land at the same point as today That is as long as P != NP is actually true which isn't proven yet

This isn’t a bad thing

The old world will die, and yes there will be monsters while the new world struggles to be born, but it will be born. And when it is, whatever you want to do on a computer will be easy and free. 50 year old government systems upgraded for $30 worth of tokens. It'll be okay.

I mean that's highkey what people who rely on security through obscurity deserve

fear mongering the ability of not being able to adapt

The death of gatekeeping actually Because fuck adobe Fuck sony And fuck Monolit for not releasing the nemisis system. You need to relax bruh, we aren’t getting skynet till our great great grand children’s funerals. Just play the games.

so just devise stronger and more complex security, like weve always had to do since the invention of the computer? the obfuscation methods in the 90s were obviously not as good as the ones we have now

What the fuck does reverse engineering software have to do with encryption lmfao You do realize encryption is still safe right, regardless of how smart AI becomes I guess you could argue that ai can speed up quantum computer development which could break some encryption

Security by obscurity was always considered bad. If thats your idea of security, you got bigger problems.

sorry but you are retard as hard as it will be to understand for you

The Butlerian Jihad will be a thing.

I think its so funny a tech illiterate retard is talking to us about muhhh encryption and muhh IP™. Like do you even know how any of this works lmao? Like this is the biggest strawman of AI ever, acting like only bad actors will use AI, when AI can be used by both sides.

And at the end of it all, you step outside, touch the grass as the sun hits your body and a woman waves at you from 20 feet away and you slowly begin to realize "oh...this was how it was supposed to be all along..."

Fuck AI

“The mark of a beast is never having a thought from outside the pattern. A free thought isn’t choosing between two options, it’s the thought from outside the system, and it comes from within.”

a golden age of piracy

good argument, but a bit overblown. Humans will adapt, adopt the technology, and everything will just get faster to produce and we'll have more capabilities in our hands to make cool stuff. There will always be a market of people who don't want to touch that stuff and invest time

this is just wrong. security through obfuscation is never the answer, and these tools are going to punish people who believe in that ideology the fear mongering behind AI is really dumb.

Having spent 200B tokens on decompiling melee, the reason this doesn't hold up is that you need the ROM and the compiler used, you can then do a pass, see the diff and infer what the compiler did. You have full access to the system, yes security will need to be beefed up, but every corp worth their salt is currently doing that

With that assumption, every open-source software would be insecure. Fear mongering at its best. Don't trust larpers who need a green-screen for a normal living room.

Why didn't I saw you reacting like that when GHIDRA was released ? damn the levels of doomerism

Lil bro doesn't understand encryption

Fear mongering final boss 😁

this is not a bad thing, this is a great thing if anything.. quit the fearmongering

Well, since the death of software, we must focus on the life of hardware.

(Modern security doesn't require the code to be secret) (If something is computed on a remote server you don't have anything to reverse-engineer, unless the source code has been leaked)

Claude and ChatGPT also are software btw

reverse engineering software != breaking encryption.

"It was considered a form of security" oh yeah, the good old security by obscurity, which is not taken seriously by anyone building really secure system. Its nothing but a bonus to the actual security. Something you should never count on