The Klopp Truth

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Exactly. Klopp took a team from 8th (PL) to 99, 97 and 92 points as well as 3 CL finals within 8 years, with a fraction of the net spend of City, Real Madrid and others. It has never been done by any other Mgr, ever, not even close.

The facts are I’m 100% sure that without Klopp we still wouldn’t have won the league… especially with where we were when he took over

If you take the 15 teams out above Everton Sean Dyche would be a world class manager but it don’t work like that.

You know ball 🙏

Klopp has finished 2nd twice in the PL. If City hadn't won the League during the time he's been in the PL he would have won it two more times to make it three for him. That's not bad. However for every season that Klopp came second the PL the title was his to lose and he bottled it. Just like he's about to do this season. City are good but Klopp could have won way more PL titles with this team. He just bottled two and if you add this season three.

The Pep truth….1 UCL in 8 years is failure, only 2 UCL finals as City manager is failure, over a £1.5b squad assembled and to have just 1 UCL in the Etihad trophy cabinet is a failure of his job. Pep is a fraud.

Why take Pep out?

This is joke man! How can you say someone who always came second is a great coach if he's a great coach then what is pep guardiola is? For 5 good years you always came second with the same team against the same team and you call it great 😃😃 does it mean for 2 years the team didn't understand themselves?

Respect to Mark..one of the only united fans i know who can put rivalry bias to one side and appreciate greatness.. i have no problem in saying players and managers frm other clubs were great. But the man won every trophy possible at club level