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The Niggardly Nigger (c. 1879) 🎹 by Harry Hunter & Vincent Davies

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Foundring 🇺🇸 的头像
Foundring 🇺🇸3 个月前

This historically significant song requires considerable unpacking! There appears to be some misconception about this work being represented on "official" sources like Wikipedia (no surprise there). To start, the date of this work is unconfirmed. This is the first work I've recorded that I could not confirm the publication year (hence the "circa" 1879). Several sources, including Wikipedia, claim it was published in England in 1900, however no sources confirm this and there are multiple reason why this is factually incorrect. Wikipedia also lists this song as an example of the "coon song" genre: From Wikipedia: "The Niggardly Nigger, an example of a British coon song, published in London in 1900." The "coon song" craze really didn't take off until the late 1880s and 1890s. From my extensive research, I haven't found anything from the 1870s that can remotely be considered a "coon song" in the modern sense. Instead, this is very much in the minstrel music tradition and was meant to be performed in the "Music Halls" of late 1800s Britain (The British equivalent of America's Vaudeville): There is a *huge* difference between the popular music of the 1870s vs 1900. This work, by my estimation, fits perfectly with the aesthetic of the former. Older works are far less likely to have publication years, but by 1900 almost every work included the year. The cover style that includes the story of the different verses in a collage of vignettes was also much more common in the 1860/1870s era. This went out of fashion by the 1880s (more or less). Wikimedia has an image of the cover, and also claims the 1900 date, but provides no source: You can *purchase* this cover on Alamy (lol don't do that) and it lists both 1899 and 1900 as the publication year. But yet again the 1899 estimation is not sourced and inaccurate. For example, we know this song was performed as early as 1893 in England: It was also performed in New Zealand in 1897! Back then it took years for songs to spread internationally so this timeline checks out with a publication date far earlier than 1900. The FULL sheet music can be downloaded for free at the Johns Hopkins Levy Collection: Note how it's listed as "n.d." for no date and it doesn't mention 1900. The Levy page for composer T. Vincent Davies includes several other works: Three of theme are "n.d." and two others were published in 1871 and 1872. A third is included in an 1886 collection of songs, but it first was published ~1874. His IMSLP entry has only 3 songs. He is described as a "British music hall composer" born in 1832 (no source given). His death year is unknown. The 3 works on imslp span the years 1871-1879, which matches Levy's collection. This website is often a great resource for information about these old composers and their work: This includes information about ~80 works by Davies published until the 1890s, but it's unclear if some may have been written then or published posthumously in various collections. This site usually pulls from primary sources and while not 100% accurate, I find it more reliable than Wikipedia etc. In this collection of T. Vincent Davies, the song "The Niggardly Nigger" is clearly labeled as published in 1879. Unfortunately, there is no source given for this date BUT it fits in with all my speculation about the actual decade it was written. This is why I landed on the 1879 date, but included the c. because it's not proven. TBH, it's possible this was written *prior* to 1879, but for now I think that date is the most accurate estimation that we have. The Grainger site also has an entry for Harry Hunter, but the vast majority of his credits are as "performer" and sometimes as lyricist: The Levy Collection also has several Hunter works, but most are listed as "n.d.": IMSLP only lists one work: Wikipedia actually has some information about Harry Hunter, although he doesn't have his own page. Instead, he's mentioned on the page for British music publishing company Francis, Day & Hunter Ltd. This popular and successful company published works of the stars of the British music halls, such as Charles Chaplin, Sr., the father of the famous director: According to Wikipedia, the brothers William and James Francis were leaders of a music hall minstrel troupe in London called the Mohawk Minstrels. Harry Hunter, whose dates are listed as 1840-1906, was part of a "rival" troupe called the Manhattan Minstrels. However, they joined forces in 1874 and Hunter became a performer with the Mohawk Minstrels and the Francis brothers began publishing his songs. In 1877, David Day (1850-1929) joined and created the Francis Bros & Day publishing company. In 1880, Harry Hunter was named as partner and his name was added. And here we have further proof of the 1879 estimate for our song! The Niggardly Nigger is listed as published by "Francis Bro. and Day" only! IOW, Hunter had yet to be added as a partner. This means the song must have been published between 1877-1880! Here's a 1879 cover advertising Harry Hunter in the Mohawk Minstrels' Magazine as a performer at the Agricultural Hall in London: Note it also is listed as "Francis Brothers and Day" but does not appear to include The Niggardly Nigger. This seems to add credence to the 1879 estimate as perhaps that song hadn't been published when this collection came out. To conclude, I'm confident that 1879 is likely the correct year this was published. The 1900 date claimed by Wikipedia and other sources is wildly erroneous. The music of the 1870s compared to 1900 are different worlds. This is the world of the 1870s. I've avoided discussing the obviously racially inflammatory content and imagery until now. This type of comedic performance was very common in this era. The word "nigger" was NOT considered an offensive slur in 1870s England. It was essentially a descriptive term. This isn't the time for an entire dissertation on the minstrel tradition and the nuances of the humor which appears egregious today, but I can say with considerable confidence that this song was not meant to be wholly malicious and racist in intent. I have circumstantial evidence to support this assertion. Songwriter and performer Harry Hunter wrote songs sympathetic to the black cause and celebrated their freedom from slavery. Notably, he has a work published by Francis Bros & Day (so 1877-1880) called Emancipation Day: The lyrics include lines such as: "We'll keep that day in every year, that freedom reached our land, And laugh and sing and shout hurrah! And all join hand in hand, To celebrate the glorious fete, Then every band shall play, The girls and boys, shall make a noise, on Emancipation Day." One of the more surprising things I've discovered about the minstrel performers of the 1800s is that many were *supportive* of abolition and championed the pro-black cause. They weren't trying to be "hateful" they were just mimicking black culture for comedic and entertainment purposes, and these performances were usually enjoyed by all races. In fact, BLACK minstrel performers were wildly popular in this era as well! IOW, in the context of 1900 London, a song like this would indeed come off as slightly distasteful (and old-fashioned!), but in the context of 1870s minstrel troupes, a very different picture emerges. The other works by Hunter are comedic or pleasant ballads, and some are even anti-racist! This song was NOT meant to be malicious, it was meant to be funny. We might find this distasteful or horrific today, but it's very important to consider this in the time it was written. It's not even an indictment on an entire race, it's about one old guy who's ridiculously miserly! The racial aspect of the song is merely the result of a silly pun. I think that's why it's very good that I performed this to preserve it properly. Having it listed as a racist "coon song" from 1900 on Wikipedia paints a very inaccurate portrayal of this work and others like it. This is *not* a "coon song" and it's certainly not from 1900! It's a comedic minstrel song from the 1870s and reflects the humor and sentiments of that era. Hunter noted the clever similarities between the word "niggardly" and "nigger" (which have very different etymologies) and decided to write a song about it. You could truly write a dissertation about each of these old songs! It's a pity they have been cast aside and so thoroughly demonized. They are a window into our past, and our past is our past whether we like it or not. Thank you for reading, I appreciate it very much! Much love, -Kylan

Foundring 🇺🇸 的头像
Foundring 🇺🇸3 个月前

Addendum: Thanks to @TerriNEPA we now have proof that this song was written in *1870* or even earlier! This fits with my suspicion that the song is MUCH older than Wikipedia claims. 1900 is laughable and this is why it's important we get our history right.

Foundring 🇺🇸 的头像
Foundring 🇺🇸3 个月前

Substack post:

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Foundring 🇺🇸3 个月前

Download sheet music/audio/video. This is the FIRST time this historic work has been recorded. You are hearing this song for the first time in almost 150 yrs! Support my work to preserve our musical history, I'm one of the only living musicians doing this:

Foundring 🇺🇸 的头像
Foundring 🇺🇸3 个月前

Although this song may seem "shocking" by today's standards, the songwriter Harry Hunter was actually pro-black and wrote songs like "Emancipation Day" celebrating their freedom. More proof that there is far more nuance to the music, the songwriters and their audiences back then.

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Brian Burtner3 个月前

I have a limited reach, but to all my followers: please follow and share every piece of music this man produces. FUCK the faggots trying to suppress our nation's true musical history.

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ModdedBlueshift3 个月前

What a notification to receive

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Tax slave to 8billion American citizens-in-waiting3 个月前

What a beautiful tune to ring in Junetwunteef. So sad to see one of the greatest talents of our generation so suppressed. I’m honored to be among those seeing a master at work in this niggardly little corner of the interwebs.

ModdedBlueshift 的头像
ModdedBlueshift3 个月前

Sell the wool from off of his head got me good

White Girl 的头像
White Girl3 个月前

🤍

aFatalSpanking 的头像
aFatalSpanking3 个月前

lol. Nice. “Niggardly” has been one of my favorite words ever since I read The Prince as a kid.

Terri-NEPA 的头像
Terri-NEPA3 个月前

This is an ad for Harry Hunter's new songs in London's The Daily Telegraph on Feb. 19, 1870:

Terri-NEPA 的头像
Terri-NEPA3 个月前

This is the full page in London's The Daily Telegraph on Feb. 19, 1870. The notice for Harry Hunter's new songs is in the 2nd column from the right just below the middle of the page:

Foundring 🇺🇸 的头像
Foundring 🇺🇸3 个月前

Fantastic find! This confirms my suspicion that the song did indeed predate the 1879 publishing! I still think it was finally published in the late 1870s, but it obviously was written perhaps even in the late 1860s! Thank you. This kind of musical archaeology is important.

John Traddington 的头像
John Traddington3 个月前

This and a beer are all I need for Juneteenth, thank you.

Fabiodriven 的头像
Fabiodriven3 个月前

How do you figure out the singing part of a song that you don't have any recording of for reference? I wish I could hear an original performance from back in the day to compare yours to. These men would be proud to see their music being brought back to life all these years later.

Foundring 🇺🇸 的头像
Foundring 🇺🇸3 个月前

The notes are there but that's it. I don't have tempo or any other reference to how it should be performed, I have to use my experience and intuition. But the melody line at least is written, I wouldn't be able to sing these without it.

Fabiodriven 的头像
Fabiodriven3 个月前

Well bravo sir 👏🏿

J Pence 🇺🇸 的头像
J Pence 🇺🇸3 个月前

Uncle Rastus knows is this пiggeг was so пiggaгdly that he transcended пiggeгdom itself and became the пiggeг in the moon.

Squallstrike - Absurdity Unparalleled 的头像
Squallstrike - Absurdity Unparalleled3 个月前

Niggaboons be niggin (c. 2026)

PatienceZero 的头像
PatienceZero3 个月前

Oy sheeeeeeit

Nat Socks 的头像
Nat Socks3 个月前

Wouldn't even share his measles ...my dad used to make jokes about people being niggardly like that ..and yes he used the word niggardly. Irish Australian , I guess the word went worldwide

Les Hanser 的头像
Les Hanser3 个月前

This has a nice ring to it. I like it.

Grodd 的头像
Grodd3 个月前

This is unironically a beautiful song in so many ways.

Demigrifo 的头像
Demigrifo3 个月前

Great tune, mate. Thanks for this

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DubaiPoopTrucks3 个月前

Remember when the internet didn't censor you for being too left or too right or too "racist" or too "anti-semitic" and life was way better by nigh every metric? I'd love to play this over voice coms in the waiting time playing TFC or CS 1.6 on WON (pre-Steam to the gen Z reading)

MaximumPatriot🇺🇸 的头像
MaximumPatriot🇺🇸3 个月前

N

Jedievan4 的头像
Jedievan43 个月前

Lovin it! How are you cranking these out so fast?

Foundring 🇺🇸 的头像
Foundring 🇺🇸3 个月前

I can learn and memorize one of these in an hour or less if I wanted to. I could pump out more than one a day if I was being compensated but I keep getting banned and can't figure out how to monetize this work. It's a sad state tbh.

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Australien3 个月前

@jedievan4 There must be a way you can profit from this talent. We all love the music and history lessons, and the music fits well with todays high fatigue.

Foundring 🇺🇸 的头像
Foundring 🇺🇸3 个月前

@jedievan4 I can't even get local gigs playing for tips only lol. Our society is dead and no one has noticed or seems to care.

Jedievan4 的头像
Jedievan43 个月前

@Australien666 People are addicted to their phones/big tech/pharma, brainwashed by education system/government/news media. Is that why our society is dead?

Foundring 🇺🇸 的头像
Foundring 🇺🇸3 个月前

@Australien666 Yes. No one cares about live music because they just stream slop on spotify and that's more "real" to them than actual human beings.

Jedievan4 的头像
Jedievan43 个月前

@Australien666 That's insane. These tech companies are going to turn me into a Luddite.

joopi 的头像
joopi3 个月前

“Never did nuffin”

Shekelmancer 的头像
Shekelmancer3 个月前

That ending!

RobotkinZ 的头像
RobotkinZ3 个月前

19th century racism is just so wholesome! 🤣

Suntanned Greek 的头像
Suntanned Greek3 个月前

It means he was stingy….

Vitamin D Records 的头像
Vitamin D Records3 个月前

They're my favorite kind.

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Nick Kurr-Watt🤦🏽‍♂️3 个月前

this sounds like what i literally sing to myself at the house when no one’s around. i’m not even kidding. this stuff is incredible.

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