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This is how civilized countries build railway. Efficient. Organized. Highly Automated. Canada can too. 🇨🇦💪
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They could, but considering the government has allocated $3.9 BILLION just to the co-development phase, I would say the $60-90 BILLION estimate of the project is grossly underestimated. The Liberal government and efficiency do NOT go hand in hand. If you need proof, look no further than Arrive Can.

99% of the Canadian population will never see this railway or use it , yet 100% of us will be forced to pay for it , if 2 provinces want it so bad let those 2 provinces pay for it .

Have you ever looked at a map? 🤣🤣🤣

@Rod10747719 Have you compared the size of Japan to the size of Canada? Or is that not a factor to you, hahahahhaha

@Rod10747719 Are we building HSR from Halifax to Whitehorse? Or from Toronto to Montreal?

DO you know Canada is broke and on the verge of collapse? you have to pay attention to know or you won't realize that the BANKER is playing numbers games. Canada is close to resetting just like Justin told you, you should watch these videos, the CPAC ones, so you know what is going on in Canada. the first one, that is just Justin TELLING YOU, he's going to collapse the country. WHY YOU CONTINUE VOTING LIBERAL confuses me, I used to, I stopped when they became terrible. Why do you vote and then not watch your employee, what's wrong with you? Why don't you wish to live in a democracy? The last one is how you overturn a democracy, because the NWO is communist, with China leading. You should read it so that you understand i am telling you the truth about what Justin said to you.

@Rod10747719 We're broke? No one told you?!

Our DEBT TO GDP, the real one, is terrifying and you think our resources that are in the ground are gonna help. They are not. Carney goes around the world selling us off and securing contracts for Brookfield. IF you think the liberals care about the wellbeing of Canada, you have not been paying attention.

@Rod10747719 Debt to GDP isn't wealth. We could literally drop a 5% sovereign debt tax.... Wipe our entire debt to $0, buy a HSR, arm the military, start a sovereign wealth fund. And barely anyone would notice. You have no clue what you're talking about. I DGAF about Lib or CPC.

All it takes is money. Which Canada doesn't have. Because Mark Carney won't approve new Pipelines and wants Canadian Energy to stay in the ground.

Canada has over $19T of wealth. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

@scudog65 you obviously dont know what you're talking about. just because the resources are there locked up in the ground doesn't mean we have access to them currently why the fuck would we build a train for 3x it would cost japan?

@scudog65 It literally includes NO resources in the ground. It's largely financial assets, institutional, pension, etc. If you knew how to read a balance sheet (or read at all?), you'd know this.

@scudog65 you are wrong, it 100% includes land and natural resources you're also acting like we have 19 trillion liquid, the country is in debt and its rising. the VIA rail hasn't been profitable in decades and you want to spend taxes on another railway?

@scudog65 Grok is dead wrong. Includes zero resources. I've literally run the numbers myself to over $10T. All cited. This excludes CIBC, Nat Bank, and all credit unions. (~$1.5T) Real estate makes up a large chunk of the rest. Again you have no idea what you're talking about.

The track laying is the least of our worries. It’s the project studies, the right of ways, the fact that a barrier will be erected through communities that will split them geographically and not offer any benefits. It’s the bridges, it’s the lakes and swamps and the grift.

I literally digitized land consulting and offered it to Alto. They ghosted me. We're building man. And no one will get in our way.

Honestly question for you: At what price would it not be worth it? How would you know?

At what price would what not be worth?

The train, man.

It should be built for $25B from Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal (~540km). At ~$46m/km.

Showing a rail machine is not the same as proving a rail project makes economic sense. Canada’s problem isn’t that we lack equipment. It’s that politicians skip the adult questions: who pays, what’s the real demand, what gets expropriated, what’s the final cost, and what taxpayers give up instead. A machine is not a business case.

CN used a P-811 concrete tie replacement machine in the mid-80’s. It’s likely that one will be used for the HSR, because the scope justifies the cost.

Interesting nice find. As long as it's automated and expedited (2km/day) in a fan. LFG!

@Nasdad_TO Here is footage I found from 6 months ago, jump to the 32:00 mark. Same idea but likely a more portable, economical system for remote areas. Seems to work well.

@Cappy_Nate Nice catch, the unit numbers on the machine look like they are owned by Universal Rail (formerly A&B Rail)

Dude this is standart all over the world. Everbody build railroad like this. We are not living in 1980s anymore. That machine built in Austria. They are using same machine in Turkey, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Romania and apperantly Canada, too. Plasser & Theurer are producing many devices. This one is used for snow removal.

My Turkish friend you have no idea how far behind Canada is on railway.

I can't say that Turkey is the best in the world at railway construction, but I am aware of the lack of interest in railways in North America. I think people prefer air travel because the distances are too far. One day, we were chatting with the general manager of Turkish State Railways on that time. There was a large crowd around. Someone said, "Sir, we could use convicted serious criminals to expand our railway lines." The general manager turned and said, "I suppose the last time you were involved in railway construction was in 1990. Most railways are now built by machines." 😀 Canada's problem about railroad is not about technological I suppose. Technology can be imported from Europe. It seems that real problem is because of lack of interest. Back in the days, some Americans saw railroads as communist plot. 😀

Your system may be f*cked but I meet many Canadians. Good people, I like them. System is not work in here too. Our economy collapsed years ago and we are still living it with that ruin. Every country has problems, and I learnt to live with it. Because what can you do? It is your country and nobody is gonna fix that but you.

Canada can’t even fix a pothole properly.

Not for a starting price of $90 Billion we can’t,

Do you know how many conservatives died from outrage after seeing this? Hopefully enough we can get one of those bad boys

Keep teeing them up and I'll keep smashing them down. 🤣 We're flipping tables today. 🤣

And putting holes in drywall 🤣

Hey man, I'm happy to crater entire belief structures today. No problem at all. Another one teed up soon that you'll like. 🤣

Took Toronto 15 years to build 12km of LRT, keep dreaming.

Those tracks aren't the same as high speed rails. Canada isn't that efficient or experienced. Always over budget, over scheduled, and under delivered.

They're literally laying a 250km/h rail line 🤣 Haparanda Line Sweden!

Your not doing the 300+ km/h the Canadian one is expected to reach on those tracks.

Okay, if it is as efficient and automated as you say, why is it costing 100 billion dollars? This is ignoring the obvious fact that these rails are NOT high speed rails being built.

That video was of the Haparandabanan 250km/h line in Sweden. Happy to help.
Skills and machinery aren’t the problem. Corruption is. And until we see politicians and bureaucrats arrested for corruption, nothing can be built.

No they won't. It took them 15 years and 15 Billion dollars to make the Eglington line in TO It's still taking them 7 billion and almost 10 years to finish Phase 1 in Ottawa and the line is always down. They haven't laid any track yet for Phase 2 -_-. So yes, please make another line. It will only cost about a 1 Trillion. It cost them over 7 Billion dollars to make 23 miles of track.

Oil and gas pipelines first.

Why the hell does it cost 150 million per km in Canada????

That looks like track repair. Pretty sure CN/CP both have something similar

This is super cool!

If liberals and corrupt Quebec has anything to do with a HSR project, guarantee it would cost over $400 Billion and take 30+ years to build.

Yes, civilized countries also don't go 75,000% over budget on apps like ArriveCan. (Not a typo: Seventy-five Thousand percent)

Nope, sorry we rather spend our money on inclusive climate action in Tunisia

No we can't.. We've got powerful unions to preclude this and criminal organizations in Quebec to make it fail without ransom. IMO!

It's obtaining the Right of Way and the government corruption that's the biggest impediment. Oh and the lack of available public funds.

That's plasser and theurer, it's an Austrian company, not Canadian. they cost USD 25-39 million per km. China's Railway Group, CREC USD 17-21 million per km. So yea... Not Canadian.

@v12farmcat Concrete ties don’t last in Canada. Being civilized got nothing to do with it.

Has this guy seen the progress- and often, the sudden halt or cancellation- of projects in Canada?

We can, but unfortunately, our government would rather help Ukraine.

What is this Chinese?

China has some good ones. This one is Austrian. Plasser & Theurer SVM1000 (2km/day production)

What is that in Canadian? 10 billion a kilometer?

Too much regulations, we can't do anything anymore because it costs billions just to think about it :P

No we can't. Too many Liberal insiders need to get paid. Like the Finance Minister's "life partner" who is a VP at ALTO.

@rodger_stuckey They will, 10 years from now when all the budget and more has been spent getting to that point. This boondoggle will end up costing at least double the current budget, probably 3 or 4 times!

Canada can’t build homes but they can build a train to transport French liberals into English Canada .

sad to say this is for old, conventional railway, not modern high-speed railway.

That video is literally laying a 250km/h track in Sweden.

That's the last 5% of the project. It's basically the easy part.
