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This is what Starlink Mini sends back to the DC power line when actively operating. The "Fundamental" frequency is 250 KHz from the main DC-DC, crazily modulated with VPP up to 1.4V. It is already known that this might cause interference in some cars.

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Oleg Kutkov 🇺🇦's profile picture
Oleg Kutkov 🇺🇦1 year ago

I managed to clean the line partially. Filter will be included in the upcoming project (s).

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Pavel Milanes CO7WT1 year ago

1.4v up to 1A is about > 1W peak of RF noise. That's a lot of RF noise down the cables!!! As a Ham radio operator this is a big red flag, specially on low HF bands. Can you test Reception of AM and low HF (2-7 MHz) with a handheld radio in close range of the Starlink?

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Oleg Kutkov 🇺🇦1 year ago

Yes. I will run more tests tomorrow.

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R3PL1C8R Drones1 year ago

What does the ground loop look like on that scope probe? It's really hard to tell what comes in thru the airwaves vs what's on the wires. This might be one of the spots where a $20K scope outperforms a Rigol, not sure. If real, should be easy to filter. Perhaps bulky though.

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Oleg Kutkov 🇺🇦1 year ago

There shouldn't be ground loops since the power bus and the Starlink are isolated. Sure, there is some extra noise due to imperfections of the test, but the whole thing is real. It's easy to see the DC-DC switching freq and other components that depend on the terminal operation.

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Matty Cunningham @manxmatty.bsky.social1 year ago

250khz causing interference with 250kbps CAN bus ?? - Seems very noisy (BUC converter?)

Stanislav Barantsev 🇺🇦's profile picture
Stanislav Barantsev 🇺🇦1 year ago

...and here we go

Oleg Kutkov 🇺🇦's profile picture
Oleg Kutkov 🇺🇦1 year ago

Nothing will happen, actually. And the PoE board is not even used here.

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Serg1 year ago

true there's a noise during active data transfer in the car

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Master Builder1 year ago

Are you performing tests from a power supply alone or is there a car battery in parallel?

Oleg Kutkov 🇺🇦's profile picture
Oleg Kutkov 🇺🇦1 year ago

It's connected to PSU in this test. I know about two cases in cars. It may cause trouble with parking sensors on some Audi cars and repeater cameras on Tesla Model 3 AP 2.5. I decided to investigate it deeply.

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