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Aaron Smith 的头像
Aaron Smith5 个月前

Only an exceptionally small and fragile man could feel threatened by a simple ritual of respect.

Pat 的头像
Pat5 个月前

Hey Steve, how's your picture of Hitler going? Did you worship it this morning before you went off to say "Lest we Forget"?

Stephen Chavura 的头像
Stephen Chavura5 个月前

😬

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Pat5 个月前

So that's a yes. Are you going to let the media see your Hitler shrine?

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TheRoadknight5 个月前

This is incorrect. The 'right of passage' through another Aboriginal tribe's territory is a 'tanderrum'. The 'Welcome to Country Ceremony' was invented in 1976. We know it's a modern invention because, unlike 'tanderrum', there are no words or phrases in any of the 200+ language and dialects for 'Welcome to Country'. The Maoris have their ancient word, 'Haka', for welcomes/wardances. There is no ancient word for 'Welcome to Country'. If there are no traditional words for it, it didn't exist. For example, prior to colonisation, how did one say: "Who's performing the Welcome to Ceremony?" if there were no Aboriginal words for it? Simple logic defeats the notion that it's an ancient ceremony.

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Cade Lucas5 个月前

The only people upset with Welcome to Country's are racist grifters. If you wanna know who's causing division, look in the mirror.

Rupert's Conscience 的头像
Rupert's Conscience5 个月前

Respect costs you nothing.

Dancing Dan 的头像
Dancing Dan5 个月前

Still in your pjs. Didn’t go to the dawn service yourself, did you?

Stephen Chavura 的头像
Stephen Chavura5 个月前

Not in my PJs, this is my smoking jacket

Dancing Dan 的头像
Dancing Dan5 个月前

You’ve certainly been smoking something other than tobacco

Stephen Chavura 的头像
Stephen Chavura5 个月前

Hmmm, what you bin smoking?

Dancing Dan 的头像
Dancing Dan5 个月前

You clowns all have the same game.

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GregMarSci 💙5 个月前

How about you run back to your mummy, get her to find your pacifier and have a bit of a nap. You One Nation morons are the most pathetic idiots in the country. You do not even know what welcome to country means AND you hate our ANZACs promoting booing at dawn services.

💧 Johny Miller (jmil4000@bsky.social) 的头像
💧 Johny Miller ([email protected])5 个月前

Utterly disrespectful.

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Michael Cooper5 个月前

Here we go, the RWNJs have politicised another day with their culture war crap 🥱

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B.W.Jackson5 个月前

Our elites have nobody to blame but themselves for the reception these ceremonies are getting. If you tell people their ancestors founded an illegitimate nation, you are sending them the message they don’t belong. Any welcome in such circumstances comes across as insincere.

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Corinne Fairchild, PhD5 个月前

Your family was fighting on the other side- stay in your lane.

Danny Boy 的头像
Danny Boy5 个月前

I take offense on behalf of my GG grandfather who lost his life in WW1.

Yannis Madarfakis 🦴⚫️🟡🔴 的头像
Yannis Madarfakis 🦴⚫️🟡🔴5 个月前

White privilege

Stephen Chavura 的头像
Stephen Chavura5 个月前

No one does crazy quite like an unhinged Greek

Jolly Jumper 的头像
Jolly Jumper5 个月前

@Jennyaar11 That's all you have, just a string of insults to attack anyone who disagrees with you.

Stephen Chavura 的头像
Stephen Chavura5 个月前

@Jennyaar11 No, the original post is an argument that you can interact with. No insults at all.

Timjbo 🇦🇺 的头像
Timjbo 🇦🇺5 个月前

Hey Steve, the people have had enough of the division. There's no place for a 'welcome to country' ceremony at the ANZAC dawn service. It would have been the last thing on our fallen veterans' minds at Gallipoli; they died for their country, all of us. The political and media class do need to get a grip; it is they who have created this division.

Aofah Koff🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇦🇺 的头像
Aofah Koff🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇦🇺5 个月前

And who the fuck are you?

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michaeljohnbowerman au5 个月前

The dawn service i attended this morning had no welcome to country , one only Australian FLAG RAISE

JDD 的头像
JDD5 个月前

So you won’t acknowledge that Aboriginal people were here first, served alongside everyone else, and deserve to be seen. That’s what you are saying when opposing the Welcome To Country at solemn events. There is a time and place for a WTC and the dawn service is absolutely one.

Neo Sniper 的头像
Neo Sniper5 个月前

They have no place anywhere boo them everywhere silence is consent

Rupert's Conscience 的头像
Rupert's Conscience5 个月前

#GFY hate monger.

BethinCanberra 的头像
BethinCanberra5 个月前

Oh so ur making the rules for Australia now? Who knew! I thought that was why we elected representatives to the parliament for that! If I have to choose between you & them…I’m not choosing a racist nobody to dictate terms.

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The Noisy Elephant5 个月前

There's a lot going on in that jumble sale in your head cooker, and it's all bargain basement, chipped and stained. Time to educate you, and let you cook at the same time. “National demoralisation program”? Mate, you’ve built a conspiracy out of a microphone and a greeting. This isn’t analysis. It’s a full-blown narrative stitched together from vibes, fear, and a wildly confident misunderstanding of what a Welcome to Country actually is. Let’s pull it apart. ▓ What Welcome to Country actually is (and isn’t) The whole “this is a war permission ritual” claim? That’s the centrepiece of the argument - and it’s doing a lot of heavy lifting. Yes, historically, different groups had protocols for entering each other’s land. Like… most human societies ever. That doesn’t magically translate into: 𖧀 “You are here by permission and we could wage war on you.” That’s not how modern Welcome to Country functions. It’s a ceremonial acknowledgment of custodianship and respect, not a territorial threat dressed up in polite language. Turning it into some kind of psychological warfare program is like saying a handshake is a dominance ritual because medieval knights used to size each other up. ▓ The conspiracy leap Here’s where it goes off the rails: Ceremony at public events ↓ “Demoralisation program” ↓ “Preparing youth for radical treaties” ↓ “Australia is illegitimate” That’s not a logical chain. That’s a staircase where half the steps are missing and the rest are labelled “just trust me.” There’s zero evidence that a short ceremonial acknowledgment at events is conditioning an entire generation to reject the country. That’s projection, not proof. ▓ ANZAC Day “used to unite everyone” This one always sounds nice until you scratch it. ANZAC Day has never been some perfectly unified, politics-free bubble. Different groups have always experienced it differently - including Indigenous Australians who served and came home to inequality. Including them now isn’t “breaking unity.” It’s expanding who gets recognised within it. ▓ The sleight of hand This argument relies on a few tricks: →Redefining a cultural practice into something threatening (“It’s actually a war signal!”) →Inflating a brief ceremony into a national psychological operation (“It’s conditioning the youth!”) →Recasting inclusion as attack (“You’re being told you don’t belong!”) →Then offering the ‘solution’ Remove the inclusion, tension disappears. That’s not analysis. That’s framing. ▓ The reality A Welcome to Country at ANZAC Day isn’t telling veterans or families they’re trespassers. It’s acknowledging that the country those soldiers fought for has a deeper history that includes people who were here long before the nation-state existed. That’s not “delegitimising Australia.” That’s acknowledging the full story of it. We suspect you've never served or fought unless it was with a comb that refused to go near your head. PS: Water some of those plants, make yourself useful for a change.

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Mon.DaVinci5 个月前

You call yourself a historian and you can’t figure out why Aboriginal people welcoming us to country at Anzac Day makes perfect sense when they died for it before Australia even considered them human. Embarrassing.

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@RLBraithwaite5 个月前

I'll bet the house you haven't served this country. My father & father-in-law did at great personal cost, as did indigenous Australians. Just stfu on this day. It's disgusting that people like you wind up fellow non-serving numpties to the point of booing #Anzacday ceremonies.

Jeanette-End the Zionist Genocide @WSWS_Udates 的头像
Jeanette-End the Zionist Genocide @WSWS_Udates5 个月前

I wish someone (from a country more powerful than you) would invade your home, throw you out, starve you, try to massacre you, steal your children, and then boo you from the crowd at a national commemoration a few short decades later. You are a fascist.

The Silent Lemmings 💧 的头像
The Silent Lemmings 💧5 个月前

Nazis have no place at ANZAC Day ceremonies!!!

Lisa 的头像
Lisa5 个月前

@FLongshank Well said

Blodwyn 的头像
Blodwyn5 个月前

The far right dishonoured the solemnity of ANZAC day. Booing at a dawn service is disgraceful. They booed a person whose family has served Australia over generations. The selfishness of booing has ruined our ANZAC day. Knock yourselves out trolling me. I’m done with dishonour.

Jeanette-End the Zionist Genocide @WSWS_Udates 的头像
Jeanette-End the Zionist Genocide @WSWS_Udates5 个月前

You're going to hate this Stephen, but what was wrong with every anzac day commemoration across Australia today is that imperialist war should never have been supported or allowed to happen. Australia's ruling elite are promoting war & anzac "traditions" so they can drive another generation of working class youth to die for their profits. Trump & his Oligarchs in the US are baying for the blood of all young working class men & women in their drive to enrich themselves by taking over the oil & natural resources of the world.

Narelle 的头像
Narelle5 个月前

Because you say so????

Stephen Chavura 的头像
Stephen Chavura5 个月前

Well, the whole video is an argument for my position. A former teacher should recognise that.

Peter Holland 🕊️ 的头像
Peter Holland 🕊️5 个月前

@narelleford Your position could have been summarized as: This doesn't really affect me—I just enjoy having someone to punch down on and have it vaildated by the most mean-spirited among us.

Narelle 的头像
Narelle5 个月前

@ChavuraStephen Well said Peter.

🇦🇺Tracaus 🐯 的头像
🇦🇺Tracaus 🐯5 个月前

@RIGPIG888 I agree. There is no place for Welcome to Country on Anzac Day. It is disrespectful to our soldiers. They are trying to hijack our last sacred day.

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loco_chicken5 个月前

@OzPollies Labour’s policy of mass migrantion is incoherent with their promotion of welcome to country and everything that entails. Do migrants care of the plight of aboriginals ? Does mass immigrantion dilute the aboriginal voice ?

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Fergus Elliott5 个月前

Little man baby came out of mum's basement to give us a history lecture. This pathetic Champ, it's this sort of narrow minded crap that helped fuel the Nationalism of the Nations we stood against. Get in the bin you pathetic coward.

IMT ✖️ 的头像
IMT ✖️5 个月前

Tell your story to Reg, you grub.

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It’s Time to Support Democracy5 个月前

Racist