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Tokens with equity do not work

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Erik Voorhees4 months ago

"There's no project that's so good that it can overcome this misalignment of incentives." The equity holders are the largest holders of the token. The incentives are aligned. "We have to update our mental models for the times" Indeed

Zach Rynes | CLG's profile picture
Zach Rynes | CLG4 months ago

Preach

Austin Federa | 🇺🇸's profile picture
Austin Federa | 🇺🇸4 months ago

What's your proposal?

Mippo 🟪's profile picture
Mippo 🟪4 months ago

either only have a token or only have equity

Austin Federa | 🇺🇸's profile picture
Austin Federa | 🇺🇸4 months ago

Counterpoint I guess would be ripple?

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Fishy Catfish4 months ago

Definitely not a counterpoint. Ripple socializes all of their corporate overhead onto XRP holders, while privatizing all the value creation for Ripple Labs shareholders. The token has zero claim to anything Ripple does, yet everything Ripple does was entirely capitalized via the token. See divergent stock price vs token.

Austin Federa | 🇺🇸's profile picture
Austin Federa | 🇺🇸4 months ago

@MikeIppolito_ It’s still more successful than all, but three other tokens 🙈

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Fishy Catfish4 months ago

@MikeIppolito_ Entirely due to misinformation and faux hype from carnival barker Garlinghouse and social media slop merchants to low information retail; not any actual fundamentals of the token.

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Austin Federa | 🇺🇸4 months ago

@MikeIppolito_ I would never claim there are strong fundamentals

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wahndo4 months ago

Chainlink is token forward in this respect

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Malisha | Streamflow4 months ago

Yes. Long gone are the days when an investor would buy a token without any real backing and then it would just magically go up. The industry is maturing, and tokens MUST be connected to the equity that holds IP and accrues value. None of the tricks work, and even buybacks are not enough. We are working on bringing equity-backed tokens to life.

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Andy4 months ago

Return to fundamentals.

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01Resolved4 months ago

@nftboi_ We agree. Token with equity also make fundamental analysis meaningless.

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Alex B 👾4 months ago

> Tokens … do not work FTFY

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Benjamin Whitby GVNR.xyz 🔗 🇬🇧/acc 🦇🔊4 months ago

Absolutely agree! @adamjgmiller @0xThriller @intangiblecoins @galaxyhq @MIDAODS Alex had his research team smash this banger out late in 2025.

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Piotr Saczuk4 months ago

+1

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MogSupporter(Aeon Arc)💹🧲🦞4 months ago

SPX6900 unironically fixes this

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ryandcrypto4 months ago

Hyperliquid

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Æon_kn 💹🧲4 months ago

Look into #SPX6900 A worldwide, decentralized, friendly movement onchain, on social media (incl. multiple podcasts) and IRL (incl. meet ups and Conferences).

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ivangbi 🦞4 months ago

Fully agree, SAFE+SAFT was the worst "invention" for the markets.

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Crypto Sense4 months ago

XRP is what he is talking about. The biggest scam coin of them all

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加密韋馱|Skanda 🔶4 months ago

@JasonYanowitz Put a perp into it so people can effectively milk the downtrend is basically way to go Every asset market in history that doesn’t make sense but somehow survives till today, the secret recipe is derivatives

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fourfivefour™4 months ago

Yeah they do. @useKled is already doing it using @StreetFDN

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Erick Pinos4 months ago

Tokens+equity is not good. Equity tokens are good. Besides that, tokens have to have an innate mechanical or economic use case within the system. For most governance tokens, the use case became where to slosh treasury money. Payment tokens or buy-back and burn is not much better.

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JPEG Yakuza4 months ago

So all tokens would now be securities

Petros G. Sideris's profile picture
Petros G. Sideris4 months ago

tokens that are equity work.

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sergio4 months ago

Teams need to treat their token as the equitable representation of their project. It can be done, but token and equity have to become synonymous.

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Studholme4 months ago

Until tokens have the same legal protections as equity with the same value then equity will always be supreme

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Checkpoint4 months ago

hundred of thousand [...] points (^^ゞ

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Xave Meegan4 months ago

@ChainLinkGod 👑

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FutureTech4 months ago

Most of the potential upside for equity investors is still constrained to base:0xacfe6019ed1a7dc6f7b508c02d1b04ec88cc21bf doing well over the next four years.

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Tania Tare4 months ago

@pantheonvaults

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vik0nchain4 months ago

Yup @AskVenice @ErikVoorhees base:0xacfe6019ed1a7dc6f7b508c02d1b04ec88cc21bf

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Drew4 months ago

Agree and one of the reasons token + equity has persisted is that there was no great way to do token only until recently. MetaDAO, Umia, and others are changing that. Without a credible structure for token only (to legally hold assets and for market oversight), rug risk is high. So VCs want equity for legal claims. Over time value drifts to equity holders.

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Blaine Malone4 months ago

would be great to end with a proposal! good video format. would be useful to have captions next time for those people on the subway

kioto's profile picture
kioto4 months ago

metadao solves this

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mezma ⭕4 months ago

@CatfishFishy Wild how long it’s been this way. Theres a few gems with token only. $LINK being one of them

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parlayer 🎯4 months ago

Short the shit out of base:0xacfe6019ed1a7dc6f7b508c02d1b04ec88cc21bf every single pump

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