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Training robot foundation models faces two key hurdles: how to get enough data to train an effective model, and how to make sure that new skills can be acquired quickly. The team at Rhoda AI believes that the answer is training Direct Video Action models from web data. Web...

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@RhodaAI Finally. Training on web video versus scarce robot data is like soluble supports after years of breaking PLA. The UK debates while the UAE Robotics Hub actually builds.

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@RhodaAI Great episode on Direct Video Action models. The scaling era needs exactly this: massive web pre-training + high-quality real robot data for fast skill acquisition. At Tradeye we capture narrated long-horizon POV footage directly from real HVAC plumbing and electrical job sites in lived-in homes. This is the messy in-domain data foundation models need for reliable real-world performance. Dataset live:

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@RhodaAI excellent podcast!

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Pretraining is essential for good performance on a wide variety of robotics tasks, and so most vision-language-action models build off of a vision language model (VLM) trained on a wide variety of image-language data. But how does the choice of VLM translate to downstream robotics performance? Jianke Zhang and @GYanjiang join us to talk about this key part of the robot policy, looking at a wide variety of different VLMs and how they perform. Interestingly, they see that performance on auxiliary tasks like quesiton answering did not lead to downstream improvements in control. To learn more, watch episode 65 of RoboPapers now, with Chris Paxton and Jiafei Duan!

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Spatial understanding is important to moving around in complex environments and is a huge part of the challenge of generalizing to new scenes. Most world models, however, largely ignore this spatial dimension, focusing on 2D images. Not PointWorld, though. PointWorld is a 3D world model trained from real and simulated data which can perform a wide variety of manipulation tasks on a real robot, including grasping or handling articulated objects, all without any additional fine tuning. Wenlong Huang joins us to tell us more about what makes this work and how it’s different from other world models. Watch Episode #83 of RoboPapers, with Chris Paxton and Jiafei Duan, to learn more!

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Proud to share what I’ve been working on with my colleagues at Rhoda AI: Direct Video-Action Models (DVA). TL;DR: - We pre-train causal video models from scratch to control robots - They handle complex production tasks for hours without intervention - Only use ~10 hours of robot data How? 🧵👇
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Proud to share what I’ve been working on with my colleagues at Rhoda AI: Direct Video-Action Models (DVA). TL;DR: - We pre-train causal video models from scratch to control robots - They handle complex production tasks for hours without intervention - Only use ~10 hours of robot data How? 🧵👇

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