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Twitch isn't making Gen AI training *opt-in* because no one would voluntarily choose to opt in. Instead, they are offering an opt-out option.

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Rossy 的头像
Rossy2 个月前

if you know no one would opt in, then you know its a bad idea in the first place, so why add it, the logic is out the window

Pandora Macabra 💚 Ella/She 的头像
Pandora Macabra 💚 Ella/She2 个月前

Hi y'all! Just did these in case people want to add them to their stream's overlays to "show" others that you have opted-out of GenAI training from Twitch (Also did this thinking of future raids to other channels as well!)

bootyswagga, on god. 的头像
bootyswagga, on god.2 个月前

this whole stream is so funny. 3,200 people in chat all not liking this and the PR response of "50% of the general population loves using AI" is so tone deaf and hilarious (in a dystopian way).

Duck 的头像
Duck2 个月前

Yes Mike, and why do you think nobody would opt-in? Is it, per chance, because very few people like this idea?

Aaron Schmit 的头像
Aaron Schmit2 个月前

Of course noone would choose to opt in. It's as skeezy to be asked permission to train data learning models on people's work and personal information as it is to have that be the default standard. People are saying no because they don't want it. If you really cared, don't add it.

Zach Bussey 🇨🇦 的头像
Zach Bussey 🇨🇦2 个月前

A personal opinion... I feel like Twitch used every bit of leverage they have to get an opt-out. If Amazon made the full call, as Minty says, the TOS already permits full AI training (and Minty knows it was being used that way; see attached screenshot from 404media's report yesterday). The headline is 'no one would opt-in,' which is very true and telling... So Twitch doesn't get credit for 'the extra step' of adding an opt-out cause a creator platform should do right by its creators... but I think it is worth noting. A similar thing happened a couple of years ago with Prime subs, where it sounded like Amazon wanted to hard-nerf the free Twitch Prime sub... but Twitch fought to keep it with only a slight nerf in payouts instead. Again, they don't get credit for it, but to me, back then, it was also worth noting.

Zach Bussey 🇨🇦 的头像
Zach Bussey 🇨🇦2 个月前

404media's article for where the screenshotted bit is from:

Guardian - ENVtuber 🛡️🪽 的头像
Guardian - ENVtuber 🛡️🪽2 个月前

You can see when someone is being forced to push AI garbage they don't believe in. Grow some balls, you're an exec, tell em to fuck off or go somewhere else.

Sowdy 🔜 VeXpo 的头像
Sowdy 🔜 VeXpo2 个月前

@Twitch if you knew that no one would opt in THEN WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU IMPLEMENT IT??? You know it's upsetting and hated yet you done it anyways... @MikeMinton said everything here that should have been a flag If this is the top of twitch we need an entirely new team @amazon

Ilona 的头像
Ilona2 个月前

"nobody would opt in" how could that possibly be? Could it be... MAYBE BECAUSE WE DON'T W A N T THESE ''FEATURES''?

Captain Dandyfloss 🌊🏴‍☠️ 【 VTC 】 ➡️ Vexpo!! 的头像
Captain Dandyfloss 🌊🏴‍☠️ 【 VTC 】 ➡️ Vexpo!!2 个月前

So what content is this even generating? What service are we feeding? Who is making money out of this? There's so little info about all of this other than "we want to steal your content for ourselves"

Paladin 的头像
Paladin2 个月前

“Because we know, nobody would opt in” litterally tells me everything I need to know about this LMAO SCUMMMMMYYY

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the cackle I let out when he said "it's not opt in cause no one would opt in" GEE I wonder why 💀

Thorn Ravencroft 的头像
Thorn Ravencroft2 个月前

*sighs and goes and gets out the meme once again*

⟡ Anura ⟡👑🖤➜ TwitchCon SD 的头像
⟡ Anura ⟡👑🖤➜ TwitchCon SD2 个月前

“opt in by default so we can trick the people who miss this into training our models” is so scummy.

AmonTheWolf 的头像
AmonTheWolf2 个月前

Its probably also that by the time you opt out, your content has already been scraped.

Jojo 👻 的头像
Jojo 👻2 个月前

@herokerrey I love the “we know this is upsetting and everyone hates it, we will do it anyway” go-getter mindset that Twitch has lately.

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VanillaScoop Yugioh Vtuber2 个月前

"well if we actually had to have permission to stick our fingers in your throat nobody would let us do it, thats why we decided to do it without your consent" Insane mentality. These people are so beyond out of touch with reality.

Wizofgames 的头像
Wizofgames2 个月前

Guess what major provider's AI training is OFF by default? And at least pretends to offer protection from 3rd party AI scraping??

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AranTLK | CEO of BFT2 个月前

"Thieves aren't making 'Taking All Your Jewelry' opt-in because no one would voluntarily choose to opt in" Who could've guessed.

Xavius Dawnstar 🏳️‍⚧️ 🦋 的头像
Xavius Dawnstar 🏳️‍⚧️ 🦋2 个月前

So they knew this was a shitty thing to implement but still did anyways because they said that using gen AI is an "industry standard" even though (I think I can safely say) the majority of people have said they do not want this?

Chili ❤️‍🔥🌶️ || Spicy Chinchilla Femboy 的头像
Chili ❤️‍🔥🌶️ || Spicy Chinchilla Femboy2 个月前

well, if you know that NO ONE would voluntarily choose to opt in if it were turned off by default… then maybe DONT add the feature to begin with ??

Tia Matto 🎤🐉【Vsinger】 的头像
Tia Matto 🎤🐉【Vsinger】2 个月前

Just hoping people don't notice is extremely manipulative.

Aspired Geek 的头像
Aspired Geek2 个月前

Statement also says it "does NOT opt you out" from Twitch using your data for other AI purposes. Under Twitch Privacy Notice you agree to allowing use your channel for other AI features. Ads, marketing, sponsorship, 3rd party AI algorithms, AI based programs and a whole lot more.

Nyx 🌙 的头像
Nyx 🌙2 个月前

Smells like a fine coming from the EU 😤 they knew nobody would opt in so they decided to bypass consent. Do they even have a data protection officer 😂 I wonder what the DPIA looked like

Megaphonix 的头像
Megaphonix2 个月前

what i find crazy is that there isn't even the veneer of any sort of incentive for staying opted in. it would be equally gross, but imagine if they actually compensated users for their participation in contributing to the training - that would at least be a different calculation

Juwan-DEMO_1.1 的头像
Juwan-DEMO_1.12 个月前

“If it was opt-in, no one would opt-in” and “We respect your wishes” within 30 seconds of each other. The jokes about Mike Minton and Twitch executives write themselves at this point

Commander Amaro 的头像
Commander Amaro2 个月前

So they are using deception to get free data. Dude literally says that no one would opt in because they know its bullshit 😂 Do they think dishonestly in your face makes it not dishonest? WTF is with companies these days being so garbage in the name of profit maxing.

CloutFiend🤍😈☁️ 的头像
CloutFiend🤍😈☁️2 个月前

He brings up that it's the industry standard like yes... That's the problem.

FBananapants 的头像
FBananapants2 个月前

as a twitch VIEWER and chatter ONLY, my consent is being OVER RIDDEN and I'm not getting a notification if I enter a stream that is teaching gen ai. They sent out a notification to streamers because they want the people who don't like ai to opt out and be quiet about it.

BikeMan 的头像
BikeMan2 个月前

“This is where we are” Where we are sucks and I can tell you know that based on your vocal delivery.

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𝓢 𝓸 𝓻 𝓪 𝓻 𝓲 𝓷 ˚₊ ‧ ☾2 个月前

"If it was opt-in then nobody would opt-in" Then why add the stupid fucking feature @Twitch ?? "respecting your wishes", "i know it's upsetting" - yall are fully aware it's a shitty thing to do and add and nobody wants it. You don't "respect" anything about your users. smh

EmberberryArt 的头像
EmberberryArt2 个月前

"no one would opt-in" - well, maybe then that means it's not a feature anyone wants. A feature on a platform that runs *entirely* on OTHER people to function. Aka, your streamers. That is not rocket science to understand. No wonder why they haven't made a profit

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