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Thoughtful-Faith 的头像
Thoughtful-Faith1 个月前

Ooof…. Dans postmodernism is so embarrassing.

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✝️Notekotan1 个月前

Reddit scholar dan strikes again

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Stacker1 个月前

Are you trying to reduce Dan to “it’s just his opinion too,” so you can make make your own dogmatic opinion just as viable? Dan isn’t saying “it’s all just opinion.” He’s saying the Bible isn’t one unified message, so later readers negotiate meaning with it. He still thinks some readings are better grounded in language, context, and history. Calling that “just Dan’s opinion” skips the entire actual argument so you don’t have to deal with the fact of the matter.

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Telestial Takes1 个月前

I was gonna say that was a clever uno reverse, until I got through the whole video to find that Dan never actually gave his opinion of his own personal Jesus. So, sorry Michael, kinda fell flat on that one. You only straw-manned him here.

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BibleHulk1 个月前

Dan thought he had a mic drop moment and once again he proves nothing! As usual

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David Black1 个月前

Dan be like “we all have to negotiate with the text” and then when a Christian tries to negotiate with the text in their tradition he’s like “no that’s not historically accurate because critical scholarship says…”

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Bob Brown1 个月前

It’s gross how much of a bad faith actor you are Yes, everyone interprets Jesus of the bible in their own way, that is objectively true as without someone’s interpretation it is just ink on paper. Our interpretation is what gives it meaning. Dan explains this many time (cont)

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Destroy Vladimir Putin1 个月前

His general point is that neither you nor I are in an epistemic position to know all that much about the historical Jesus so people project their own ideas on him. You know that’s what he means and I know that’s what he means. Your misrepresentation of him is dishonest.

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RadicalUniverse.Org1 个月前

Dan is annoying.

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ᛟ ᛖᚱᚳᛖᛋᚢᚾᚢ 卐1 个月前

Nothing is objectively true. Everything is just our view of how things are.

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Oppy-neko-chan1 个月前

This video is a great example of how not to practice hermeneutical charity.

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kathooks 🌎🪐🌕1 个月前

The “historical Jesus” is still just the perception in the minds of men. Different perceptions. Yeah, that's my opinion, just like whatever Jesus you see is your own opinion.

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zckty1 个月前

If Dan loves his scholarly credentials then he should get a PhD in New Testament studies, if not his opinion is worthless and he is doing apologetics with the New Testament

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Christopher Chambers (He/Him/His)1 个月前

Such a strawman. Dan’s position is that everyone negotiates with the text, you, me, him. And because of that, there is no one Bible; there are your Bible, my Bible, Dan’s Bible. But that does not make everyone’s opinion equal, or immune to fact tfat bear in those opinions

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Stated Clearly - Jon Perry1 个月前

Dan's 1st claim reworded: No two people hold identical models of god in their heads. 2nd reworded: The Bible, written by many different people, presents several conflicting models of god. These statements perfectly agree with each other. The latter is demonstrable in the text.

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Bryan (Gnostic) ☧1 个月前

There's two arguments getting mixed up here. 1) Dan says everyone's "view" of Jesus is their own personal interpretation 2) Dan is saying the bible's actual text is contradictory and doesn't speak in a univocal voice about God's nature.

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Garrettx🇺🇸1 个月前

Isn't this protestantism in a nutshell though? His own personal interpretation vs yours even Martin Luther got frustrated with thisbim his day

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Nathan1 个月前

It’s impossible for imperfect beings to have an accurate understanding of perfection and impossible for a creator to be defined by one’s own personal interpretation, as it would not be perfect and therefore cannot be God.

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Ponky Alolor1 个月前

Mclellan has a problem of nearly 2000 years of church history and established interpretations to contend with.

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Yongle1 个月前

I hate Dan's work, but this comes across as really dishonest. Dan is saying everyone has a "personal Jesus" because the Bible, in his view, presents multiple Jesus', not because he doesn't believe people can arrive at objective truth. You're doing a rhetorical sleight of hand.

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dMahama🇬🇭1 个月前

dogmatic dan strikes again

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Frazer Blaxland 🧡1 个月前

Ppppppplease do all of this videos!! Please! They are out of control.

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Stacker1 个月前

Dan’s great

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TheCultishShow1 个月前

Good ol “Dogma” Dan McClellan….

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ɴᴇɪʟ ᴇᴅᴡᴀʀᴅ ᴊᴏʜɴsᴏɴ⚡1 个月前

Brilliant. Dan is certinty incarnate. Hopefully more people help the hapless masses like this.

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Zed1 个月前

Wow Dan sucks

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Biblical Scholar1 个月前

Dan McLellan is an atheist pretending to be a Mormon. A mormon!! Shows he doesn't have great critical thinking right off the bat. Also he ran away from a debate with me and blocked me.

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TwoDudesRankTunes1 个月前

Alright Dan let’s see those contradictions. Also, this is akin to saying everyone has different views of a person hence everyone has their own personal “person” referring to that individual

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Optimist_Prime☦️1 个月前

That guy writes his own jokes lol 😆

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DenKon Zenith كَافِر1 个月前

My own personal interpretation of Dan McClellan is he's a bald chimpanzee shrieking at a camera.

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SigmaBlud1 个月前

Dogma Dan strikes again

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"zerodaysaint" | hilton. 👨🏾‍💻1 个月前

stopped listening to dan a long time ago

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Football Fan1 个月前

@DPGBehler I used to struggle with references of the Father being referred to as God, Mike helped me with that while addressing this guys videos, now I used those videos to teach people about the trinity

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tormntos1 个月前

And, Michael---he is talking about the Jesus he was taught about in his LDS religion.

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Cético Convicto1 个月前

When the other guy is so dumb he makes you actually agree with IP