VICE co-founder Gavin McInnes has a theory about how the “underdogs” ended up running the culture... From grunge and indie music to Trump, he argues that society spent decades making it cool to be the loser, and that the backlash against that shift is still playing out now.

@Gavin_McInnes He’s absolutely right. We have losers running mainstream culture who delusionally think they are the cool non-conformist counter culture.

What a loser, the proud boys are nothing but cucks for trump same with the magatards, the biggest bunch of losers they lost so much they're losing their farms.

This is more revealing about Gavin and his priorities and values than it is anything else.

If Nirvana came out today Gavin would call them woke pussies. The world didn't stop with nerds and inde rock. There was plenty of "balls" and aggression in the late 90's and early 2000's as the metal/nu-metal scenes really took off. But grifters gotta grift.

So weird to see people generalize a population of 300m over a 30+ year pd like it’s a teen high school movie .. also his timeline is all over the place

This lying faggot wasn't in high school in the 90s. He's in his fucking fifties. He graduated high school in like 1990. 99% of everything that comes out of Gavin's mouth is a fucking lie unless he's talking to Anthony Cumia. I have zero respect for this piece of shit.

This isn’t nerds, this isn’t grunge people, this whole argument is out to lunch.

Indie music was around way before grunge, Radiohead too. Americans thought grunge was original because they were mostly listening to hair metal and weren’t used to musicians performing without spandex unitards and pyrotechnics.

Is the guy with thick framed glasses and a handlebar mustache trying to convince me that he is not a nerd?

Saw Gavin for the first time in 1 1/2 just now. Still an idiot clamoring for meaning and trying to make it where it isn’t… noted.

They want to blame the nerds, Trumps not a nerd Reagan isn’t a nerd Bush wasnt à nerde Your jocks fucked up the country

So true. The losers are running society, and it shows. This is why women will start screaming like infants instead of debating, with no shame. It's why the cretins of Antifa feel emboldened to assault people. It's why women with 12 IQs run your HR dept. Real men have been conditioned to stand down.

Grunge weren’t nerds you thicko

Ha ha ha. We almost got into a fight with Nirvana in the parking lot in SLC 1991. They were pussies. Cobain even mentioned it during the show.

This Canuck is really gay, and out of touch. Not that I totally disagree, but he’s a pucci creep who tries showing his junk on YouTube

You have to remember McInnes is elder Gen-X. He’s going to put a “cool kids/nerds” paradigm on everything because that’s how all of them are. They can’t help it because of the 70s and 80s just ruining people’s (such as Gavin) brains.

December 1964 the Beatles released the song “I’m a Loser”. They were then at the absolute peak of Beatlemania. If Gavin McInnes thinks the Beatles were actual “losers” he’s really dumb. This totally destroys his theory and his credibility as an analyst. Dumb beyond words.

Artists are always underdogs, thus Left, and always 'run culture.' The problem was that the Left, politically, didn't deliver on promises to at least two consecutive generations. Following 'the rules' and nonetheless lacking opportunity began to strike voters as insane.

Oh boys, I promise whatever the fuck masculinity attempts are happening on the right. It’s impossible for females to view you as anything but a weak hatefilled coward if you still are MAGA. If you don’t hate Trump, you are the nerd but without the brain cells to save yourselves

I've thought about this idea before. I mean, think about the movie revenge of the nerds. They are getting their revenge all right.

I got dumber listening to this fucking idiot

Trump is about meritocracy? Have you seen his shitty, incompetent cabinet? He’s all about people kissing his ring. This rant is utter bullshit

Croatian guy not serbian

White supremacist like Gavin Mcginnes are the Lambda Lambda Lambda of the world. There's nothing more needy than being the people who the US govt fixed the game of life for them to win and they're still losing. All they do is wear nazi haircuts and whine.

This “expert” can’t even pronounce nirvana

The losers and nerds took over when computing and IT became the thing, look at Bill Gates, We have handed everything over to these nerds and creeps.

Trump is into meritocracy? Listen to yourself.

Oh I can go down the rabbit hole on this ones look at the culture each year visual, music, commercials chipping away now you got a land of boys that can’t look you in the eye and shake your hand. No dignity No Punk Rock Attitude I mean the real punk rock.

Why you gotta bring Louis CK into this?

@Vinici099 Gavin McInnes created hipsters. He should be jailed.

Please, in the scale of coolness Gavin would be the loser sitting alone in the cafeteria writing his manifesto to sh00t up the school. Although he is Canadian so maybe stab?

And apparently those loosers started Vice

@Gavin_McInnes Mostly on the mark but grunge is way way way more loser-coded than Indie music.

No it was never cool to be a loser….gtfoh