Was the US 1st Marine Division Defeated by Them?🤯

The story follows two brothers: Wu Qianli (Wu Jing), a seasoned People’s Volunteer Army commander. Wu Wanli (Jackson Yee), his younger brother, who joins the army hoping to prove himself. As Chinese forces enter the Korean War, the brothers are sent to the frozen mountains around Lake Changjin. They face overwhelming odds against U.S.-led UN forces while enduring brutal sub-zero temperatures, starvation, and relentless combat. The film focuses on courage, sacrifice, and the bonds between soldiers.

The US suffered about 13k casualties (killed, wounded, missing) with half of the casualties due to frostbite. The Chinese lost between 60k and 80k. The final results: the Marine 1st division was fully operational within a month. Several Chinese divisions were destroyed or forced to disband, the entire 9th Army Group was combat-ineffective for months. The win goes to the US.

I think both sides suffered terribly. The Marines executed one of the most famous fighting withdrawals in modern history under impossible conditions

The film definitely tells this battle from a very specific perspective. The context behind this scene changes the entire story.

No. Surrounded by way bigger Chinese forces in -30° hell, they still punched their way out and wrecked the units sent to wipe them out. That’s a breakout, not a defeat.

The cold was the real nightmare in that campaign. The Marines took heavy losses, but they weren’t defeated in the way this clip implies.

Mao ordered ~12 PVA divisions to destroy the 1st Marine Division at Chosin. They failed. The Marines broke out 70 miles in −30°F weather, brought most of their wounded and equipment with them, and wrecked the Chinese 9th Army Group so badly it was combat-ineffective for months

Not exactly defeated. The 1st Marine Division took heavy losses and faced an incredibly tough fight, but it wasn’t simply wiped out or beaten outright

The real Chosin campaign was far more complicated than this clip suggests.

No. Mao ordered the 9th Army Group (~120k) to annihilate the 1st Marine Division. They surrounded them at Chosin in -30° weather. The Marines (with attached Army/British units) fought a 70-mile breakout to Hungnam, bringing out most of their wounded and equipment. Chinese divisions were shredded by combat + frostbite (estimates 40–80k casualties). The 9th Army Group was pulled off the line for months.

I am always cautious about mainland movies on the Korean war. The battle of Choshin Reservoir is interesting. Chinese outnumber the marines 4 to 1. The Marines conduct a fighting withdrawal inflicting 6 to 1 casualties on the Chinese as they leave.

No. They were surrounded by far larger Chinese forces in -30° weather and still fought their way out with most of their wounded and equipment. The units sent to destroy them were badly chewed up.

No. Mao sent ~120,000 troops from the 9th Army Group with orders to destroy the 1st Marine Division. They failed. The Marines fought a 70-mile breakout through -30°F weather, brought out their wounded and most of their equipment, and left the Chinese force so badly mauled

I don't think the US 1st Marine division can be defeated

Nah they weren’t defeated. Surrounded in -30° hell by way bigger Chinese forces, the 1st MarDiv still punched a hole out and made the units sent to wipe them pay a brutal price. That’s a breakout, not a loss.

They weren’t defeated. They broke the encirclement and walked out. The Chinese paid a brutal price for it.

casualties on the opposing forces, often cited as an example of resilience under extreme conditions.

Chosin was a brutal fighting withdrawal, not a simple Chinese victory.

I need to watch this movie asap because it seems really interesting

Nah they punched their way out of Chosin. That winter was not a joke

I don't think they can be defeated, What's the title of this movie

The movie makes it look like the Marines were completely wiped out.

The weather helped them to the defeat

That battle had me questioning everything 😭 The way they made the Marines look completely overwhelmed was insane. 🔥

History gets complicated quickly, but context matters before calling it a straightforward defeat.

Defeated by them? The 1st Marine Div of 20,000, 2,000 Royal Marines, and about 7,000 Koreans, killed or wounded between 30,000 to 60,000 Chinese and took 11-13,000 while withdrawing and returning fire. That at most was a pyrrhic victory.

Looking at it I don’t think they are dead, one blinked

Oh really, I didn’t notice that gesture, perhaps I should go back and rewatch that scene

The Chosin Reservoir campaign is one of the most remarkable fighting retreats in military history The Marines were surrounded and heavily outnumbered but fought their way to Hungnam while keeping much of their force and wounded together

People don't want to talk about that one..... Family members of mine were there...

No. Mao ordered 12 divisions to destroy them. They surrounded the 1st MarDiv in −30° weather and still failed. The Marines fought out intact and wrecked the units sent to wipe them out. Breakout, not defeat.

The breakout from Chosin Reservoir to Hungnam is military legend. Completely surrounded, the Marines fought their way to the coast while refusing to leave their wounded behind.

I really can’t answer the question I’ve not seen this movie before

Alright just tame ke your time and see the movie, Title :

History gets crazy when you look at the full story. The fact that they were able to stand against the 1st Marine Division is definitely worth digging into.

When people freeze to death, it is usually in a fetal position, like they are trying to blanket themselves. This is pure hollywood.

If you’re talking about a specific battle or group, drop the image or name and I’ll tell you what actually happened.

Next time just put the name of the movie in the caption

That frozen salute in the last shot is quietly devastatin looks like the end of the line until you remember they still fought 70 miles out in that weather and left the other side wrecked.

Geez… imagining trying to survive and you freeze to death

Who are they, and this excerpt is from which move, I'll like to check it out.

The survival story behind this battle is honestly incredible. That weather alone was enough to break men.