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We are so back.

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Фото профиля Henry ☦️
Henry ☦️8 дней назад

- "We're so back guys" - uses a quote having nothing to do with the subject

Фото профиля Elusivbird
Elusivbird8 дней назад

Chrysostom assumes the ordinary practice of memorial images of the dead and argues that the written words of the saints are a superior image of their souls rather than their bodies. Preferring the greater does not abolish the lesser. He is not issuing a prohibition. This is standard rhetorical elevation of Scripture, not iconoclasm. Chrysostom himself affirmed images of the saints

Фото профиля Cory S. Cook 🫪
Cory S. Cook 🫪8 дней назад

I agree with this, but affirming images of the saints doesn't quite equal venerating them, and that's where I'm stopping until I can think about it further.

Фото профиля Elusivbird
Elusivbird8 дней назад

If sticking on Chrysostom…. In The Life of Chrysostom (cited by John of Damascus) he records that Chrysostom kept an icon of St. Paul in his cell, gazed at it while studying the epistles, and addressed the saint through it “as if he were alive.” That is direct personal veneration of the image, not mere tolerance of pictures.

Фото профиля Pope St. Leo the Great's student
Pope St. Leo the Great's student8 дней назад

Yeah that quote doesn't refute icons, but idols. Icons don't manifest the presence.

Фото профиля Dr. John Paul Danger
Dr. John Paul Danger8 дней назад

Reading comprehension being weaponized by White here...insulting peoples intelligence, just as he insulted his own intelligence in this debate.

Фото профиля Garrettx🇺🇸
Garrettx🇺🇸8 дней назад

>Quotes St John Crystostom >Totally lives in protest of and rejects St John Crystostoms Christianity.

Фото профиля Hellenic Koraki
Hellenic Koraki8 дней назад

St John of Damascus: In the life of John Chrysostom it is written thus, verbatim: And the blessed John exceedingly loved the epistles of the most wise Paul. And after a little: And he also had the portrait of the same apostle Paul in an icon, where he rested for a short while because of the weakness of his body; for he was very wakeful beyond nature. And when he went through his epistles, he would gaze at it and as if he were alive, he thus attended to him, calling him blessed, and he held all his thought towards him, imagining and speaking with him through the vision. And after other things: And when Proclus stopped speaking, gazing at the icon of the apostle and seeing his likeness was similar to the one who had appeared to him, he made a prostration to John and said, pointing to the icon: Forgive me, father. The one I saw speaking to you is like this one; and as I suppose, he is the very one.⁠

Фото профиля Joshua 🍁
Joshua 🍁8 дней назад

Chrysostom’s homily on Meletius obliterates this foolish interpretation of this passage

Фото профиля Václav
Václav8 дней назад

This is against idols, not icons.

Фото профиля Ryan Stanley
Ryan Stanley8 дней назад

Yes the Protestants are indeed so back at taking the saints of Christ's holy church out of context

Фото профиля naD 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿✝️
naD 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿✝️8 дней назад

This was one of his stronger arguments, but it has an obvious weakness: John Chrysostom is not denying the utility of images, in fact he begins by affirming them and then by comparison makes a point about the Bible.

Фото профиля ☦️Tacticool Orthobro☦️
☦️Tacticool Orthobro☦️8 дней назад

Oh yes Matt Dillamonkey presenting only Muslim and Atheist positions.

Фото профиля Joel ☦️
Joel ☦️8 дней назад

You think someone who venerates the bones of saints would be against icons? Prots are absolutely stupid.

Фото профиля Kalel
Kalel8 дней назад

Gnostic

Фото профиля ConvincedOptimist ☦️
ConvincedOptimist ☦️8 дней назад

I'm not sure how you don't see this cuts the other way.

Фото профиля Landon Thompson
Landon Thompson8 дней назад

Did Christ not have a physical body??

Фото профиля Upon this Rock 🇻🇦
Upon this Rock 🇻🇦8 дней назад

"I like what St. John Chrysostom said here, but I reject his beliefs." Chrysostom: Reject idols, not icons. 😆

Фото профиля Billy Bob ☦️⚖️
Billy Bob ☦️⚖️8 дней назад

Another BS Protestant trying to save face. He does the same thing with St. Chrysostom (whose name he cannot pronounce). Chop it up, take a sliver out, and spew propaganda. Prots are experts at this.

Фото профиля The Orthonaut
The Orthonaut8 дней назад

Out of context quote mine

Фото профиля Johnathan Parks
Johnathan Parks8 дней назад

No one should be taking theological instruction from a guy who says God makes men rape children.

Фото профиля Failure Personified
Failure Personified8 дней назад

JW misquotes Chrysostom "omg guys we are so back"

Фото профиля Spooky Core Cade 🍁🎃🍁
Spooky Core Cade 🍁🎃🍁8 дней назад

Banger quote

Фото профиля Boxiestllama
Boxiestllama8 дней назад

Why does he dress like a supervillain?

Фото профиля dodd90840
dodd908408 дней назад

I’m actually just starting to feel bad for Protestants

Фото профиля ☧☦️logic_bot☦️ ☧
☧☦️logic_bot☦️ ☧8 дней назад

You mean in the back, with all the other false theologies.

Фото профиля Iron Sheep
Iron Sheep8 дней назад

It's a bald conceited old man who grifts around in a camper van

Фото профиля Regetius
Regetius8 дней назад

Funny how it's boomers like White who are needed to prop up Protestantism. Once all the boomers are gone, Protestantism is cooked.

Фото профиля Tim Kegley
Tim Kegley8 дней назад

Good grief…what a dumb stumbling block.

Фото профиля Aaron Haskins
Aaron Haskins8 дней назад

and yet Calvinism is still not the Gospel, nor is it Christian.

Фото профиля Danny “mynickname” Diaz
Danny “mynickname” Diaz8 дней назад

He got cooked to a crisp dude. I get trying to have your boys back, but this is just cope. Dr White is a GREAT debater but he lost this one. Trying to make it seem like the opposite is just desperate looking. Theres nothing wrong with losing, Orthos lose sometimes too. Own it

Фото профиля Tony Nektarios
Tony Nektarios8 дней назад

Ignorance at its finest, the Hebrews and Solomon in the Old Testament built a temple for God full of images with angels everywhere scripture literally says “God approved of it” 2Kings Ch.6 dont forget The Ark of the covenant had 2 cherubim statues made of gold on it, lol nice try

Фото профиля Incense Sniffer
Incense Sniffer8 дней назад

Dr. White would be scandalized by Saint John Chrysostom’s Liturgy. This is Protestant Quote-mining 101. Bastardize from the Church Fathers to shape and fit to our relativist World Protestant Paradigm.

Фото профиля hike4views
hike4views8 дней назад

Why the cross around his neck?

Фото профиля Nicholas of Virginia
Nicholas of Virginia8 дней назад

It's wild that he think this quote demonstrates that the view of Chysostom was iconoclastic. And Chysostom believed in real presence, infant baptism, and the apostolic episcopate. So why doesn't White go along with Chysostom on the other topics if he thinks he supports him here?

Фото профиля benny seagrums
benny seagrums8 дней назад

since he is citing St Chrysostom as authoritative, maybe he should look up what he said about the veneration of relics

Фото профиля Deuce Bigalow
Deuce Bigalow8 дней назад

Please read. It will be good for your soul.

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