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We sat down with Strategy CEO Phong Le to unpack something that few fully understand quite yet: digital credit. 👀 This isn’t just theory, it’s the mechanism behind $STRC and how Strategy is able to continuously accumulate BTC. 📈 Watch this and expect the entire flywheel to click. Timestamps:...

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Bitcoin For Corporations

38,299 views • 8 months ago

I really enjoyed this conversation with Strategy CEO Phong Le. We cover banks coming into Bitcoin, the company's USD reserve, recent FUD and negative sentiment about price, defending MSCI inclusion and the 2026 roadmap. You also don't want to miss Phong’s origin story. His refugee-to-CEO journey is the kind of perspective that sticks with you: when you’ve lived through instability, you understand why sound money isn’t an ideology...it’s a lifeline. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Bitcoin FUD and sentiment 2:55 "Digital Money" 6:37 Banks chasing Bitcoin? 10:04 STRC offering 10.75% yield 14:07 Moving people away from 0% yield 17:52 ROC tax efficiency explained 21:19 Building a USD reserve vs selling Bitcoin 24:34 Strategy's Bitcoin evolution Strategy's adaptability 29:28 MSCI index concerns 37:42 Will Strategy be a Bitcoin bank? 41:01 Strong Bitcoin treasury companies 43:06 Strategy's international targets 45:32 More preferred products in 2026? 47:16 Bitcoin beyond politics 50:23 From refugee to CEO 1:01:24 Bitcoin and the American dream Phong Le
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I really enjoyed this conversation with Strategy CEO Phong Le. We cover banks coming into Bitcoin, the company's USD reserve, recent FUD and negative sentiment about price, defending MSCI inclusion and the 2026 roadmap. You also don't want to miss Phong’s origin story. His refugee-to-CEO journey is the kind of perspective that sticks with you: when you’ve lived through instability, you understand why sound money isn’t an ideology...it’s a lifeline. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Bitcoin FUD and sentiment 2:55 "Digital Money" 6:37 Banks chasing Bitcoin? 10:04 STRC offering 10.75% yield 14:07 Moving people away from 0% yield 17:52 ROC tax efficiency explained 21:19 Building a USD reserve vs selling Bitcoin 24:34 Strategy's Bitcoin evolution Strategy's adaptability 29:28 MSCI index concerns 37:42 Will Strategy be a Bitcoin bank? 41:01 Strong Bitcoin treasury companies 43:06 Strategy's international targets 45:32 More preferred products in 2026? 47:16 Bitcoin beyond politics 50:23 From refugee to CEO 1:01:24 Bitcoin and the American dream Phong Le

Natalie Brunell ⚡️

252,265 views • 6 months ago

Virtual stream with threadguy today considering "the full implications of Michael Saylor being right" I break down $STRC & $SATA from a basic level. - How'd we get here - How does this work - How to think about these instruments - How much capital can buy these? Tune in: 0:50 – Intro 1:48 – Reinsurance to Bitcoin treasury 4:56 – BTC Treasury history, post-2021 unwind 7:42 – Perpetual preferred equity launch (STRK/STRC) 10:44 – High yields (11.5–12.75%) vs. bank preferreds 13:37 – Underwriting Bitcoin, long-term 25–45% CAGR 15:21 – Backtesting the yield model; excess risk/return 19:37 – Liquidity advantage $STRC trades 100x+ more than JPM 22:43 – Targeting trillions in fixed-income capital 25:58 – Low dividend-risk probability vs. credit market 28:30 – Preferred = low-vol BTC; common = high-vol/amplified BTC 30:08 – High volume enabling ATM liquidity 36:32 – Strive lower leverage (1%) vs. Strategy (12%) 39:03 – Capital raising & maintaining credit profile 41:37 – Massive TAM (200–300T fixed income) 43:41 – Host recap: cool product, new capital access thesis
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Virtual stream with threadguy today considering "the full implications of Michael Saylor being right" I break down $STRC & $SATA from a basic level. - How'd we get here - How does this work - How to think about these instruments - How much capital can buy these? Tune in: 0:50 – Intro 1:48 – Reinsurance to Bitcoin treasury 4:56 – BTC Treasury history, post-2021 unwind 7:42 – Perpetual preferred equity launch (STRK/STRC) 10:44 – High yields (11.5–12.75%) vs. bank preferreds 13:37 – Underwriting Bitcoin, long-term 25–45% CAGR 15:21 – Backtesting the yield model; excess risk/return 19:37 – Liquidity advantage $STRC trades 100x+ more than JPM 22:43 – Targeting trillions in fixed-income capital 25:58 – Low dividend-risk probability vs. credit market 28:30 – Preferred = low-vol BTC; common = high-vol/amplified BTC 30:08 – High volume enabling ATM liquidity 36:32 – Strive lower leverage (1%) vs. Strategy (12%) 39:03 – Capital raising & maintaining credit profile 41:37 – Massive TAM (200–300T fixed income) 43:41 – Host recap: cool product, new capital access thesis

Jeff Walton

44,123 views • 4 months ago

A discussion between Bob Dewey, Phong Le, and me on why Bitcoin Treasury Companies exist, what the first real stress test for Digital Credit taught us, and the opportunity ahead for Bitcoin-backed financial innovation. TIMESTAMPS 0:04 - Why Bitcoin Treasury Companies Exist 7:22 - Financial Engineering Vs. Financial Innovation 14:24 - What Makes Bitcoin Treasury Companies Durable 18:42 - Does Bitcoin Need Treasury Companies? 22:20 - Addressing Bitcoin Treasury Company Criticism 26:46 - Growing Demand For Bitcoin-Backed Products 30:11 - What Has Surprised The CEOs Most 36:06 - The Evolution Of Digital Credit Products 45:10 - Lessons From The First Market Stress Test 53:10 - Bitcoin Market Depth And Liquidity 55:21 - Why Selling Bitcoin Is Not A Contradiction 1:03:37 - The Future Of Bitcoin Treasury Companies $MSTR $ASST $STRC $SATA $BTC
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A discussion between Bob Dewey, Phong Le, and me on why Bitcoin Treasury Companies exist, what the first real stress test for Digital Credit taught us, and the opportunity ahead for Bitcoin-backed financial innovation. TIMESTAMPS 0:04 - Why Bitcoin Treasury Companies Exist 7:22 - Financial Engineering Vs. Financial Innovation 14:24 - What Makes Bitcoin Treasury Companies Durable 18:42 - Does Bitcoin Need Treasury Companies? 22:20 - Addressing Bitcoin Treasury Company Criticism 26:46 - Growing Demand For Bitcoin-Backed Products 30:11 - What Has Surprised The CEOs Most 36:06 - The Evolution Of Digital Credit Products 45:10 - Lessons From The First Market Stress Test 53:10 - Bitcoin Market Depth And Liquidity 55:21 - Why Selling Bitcoin Is Not A Contradiction 1:03:37 - The Future Of Bitcoin Treasury Companies $MSTR $ASST $STRC $SATA $BTC

Matt Cole

101,417 views • 8 days ago

Michael Saylor may have just revealed the future of Bitcoin treasury companies… and Strive is already building it. In this conversation with Strive's Chief Strategy Officer Avik Roy, we break down: • Why Strategy’s latest earnings call changed the game • The rise of digital credit ($STRC, $SATA & beyond) • Why some Bitcoin treasury firms failed • Why selling Bitcoin can actually be bullish • The next phase of institutional $BTC adoption One of the most insightful discussions we’ve had on Bitcoin treasury strategy. 00:00 Avik Roy’s Bitcoin Origin Story 14:26 What Avik Actually Does at Strive 17:39 Why Strive Wants to Become a PURE Bitcoin Company 20:19 Will Bitcoin Treasury Companies Start Consolidating? 27:14 Europe vs US Bitcoin Treasury Markets 29:00 Michael Saylor’s BIGGEST Earnings Call Hint 30:25 Why STRC Is Dominating the Market 33:22 The Most Shocking Part of Strategy’s Earnings Call 37:32 “Bitcoin Is Fungible… But Not for Taxes” 41:19 The Credit Rating Catalyst That Could Change Everything 44:18 Why Some Smaller Bitcoin Treasury Companies Failed 48:19 Will SATA & STRC Keep Paying Huge Yields? 52:35 Which Bitcoin Treasury Company Is Next? 56:44 “Bitcoin Treasuries Are Like Private Equity in the 1980s” 01:01:18 Macro Outlook: Bitcoin, Inflation & The Fed 01:05:08 Final Thoughts & Where to Follow Avik Roy Full episode 👇
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Michael Saylor may have just revealed the future of Bitcoin treasury companies… and Strive is already building it. In this conversation with Strive's Chief Strategy Officer Avik Roy, we break down: • Why Strategy’s latest earnings call changed the game • The rise of digital credit ($STRC, $SATA & beyond) • Why some Bitcoin treasury firms failed • Why selling Bitcoin can actually be bullish • The next phase of institutional $BTC adoption One of the most insightful discussions we’ve had on Bitcoin treasury strategy. 00:00 Avik Roy’s Bitcoin Origin Story 14:26 What Avik Actually Does at Strive 17:39 Why Strive Wants to Become a PURE Bitcoin Company 20:19 Will Bitcoin Treasury Companies Start Consolidating? 27:14 Europe vs US Bitcoin Treasury Markets 29:00 Michael Saylor’s BIGGEST Earnings Call Hint 30:25 Why STRC Is Dominating the Market 33:22 The Most Shocking Part of Strategy’s Earnings Call 37:32 “Bitcoin Is Fungible… But Not for Taxes” 41:19 The Credit Rating Catalyst That Could Change Everything 44:18 Why Some Smaller Bitcoin Treasury Companies Failed 48:19 Will SATA & STRC Keep Paying Huge Yields? 52:35 Which Bitcoin Treasury Company Is Next? 56:44 “Bitcoin Treasuries Are Like Private Equity in the 1980s” 01:01:18 Macro Outlook: Bitcoin, Inflation & The Fed 01:05:08 Final Thoughts & Where to Follow Avik Roy Full episode 👇

One Chair

26,877 views • 2 months ago

Everyone is asking the same question right now: What happens next for $MSTR and $STRC? 🤔 We sat down with K A L E O to debate it in depth, laying out the bull case for Strategy and digital credit while hearing the bear case directly. This is an opportunity to understand both sides of the story, assess the risks, and decide for yourself what may come next. 👇 ⏱️ Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 04:22 K A L E O’s market outlook 07:10 The bear case for $MSTR and $STRC 11:54 The bull case: refinancing, liquidity & capital access 19:42 When does Strategy’s capital structure become a concern? 24:22 Credit risk, duration & preferred equity 36:28 Has Strategy shifted the goalposts? 43:45 What should Strategy do differently? 45:52 Why $MSTR needs leverage 50:46 Has the market rejected preferred-based leverage? 55:08 How Apyx handles $STRC discount risk 01:06:08 Is apxUSD really a stablecoin? 01:11:18 Redemptions, weekend liquidity & market structure 01:19:59 Market pressure, sentiment & potential short attacks 01:22:56 Closing bull case for Strategy 01:25:18 Closing thoughts from K A L E O
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Everyone is asking the same question right now: What happens next for $MSTR and $STRC? 🤔 We sat down with K A L E O to debate it in depth, laying out the bull case for Strategy and digital credit while hearing the bear case directly. This is an opportunity to understand both sides of the story, assess the risks, and decide for yourself what may come next. 👇 ⏱️ Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 04:22 K A L E O’s market outlook 07:10 The bear case for $MSTR and $STRC 11:54 The bull case: refinancing, liquidity & capital access 19:42 When does Strategy’s capital structure become a concern? 24:22 Credit risk, duration & preferred equity 36:28 Has Strategy shifted the goalposts? 43:45 What should Strategy do differently? 45:52 Why $MSTR needs leverage 50:46 Has the market rejected preferred-based leverage? 55:08 How Apyx handles $STRC discount risk 01:06:08 Is apxUSD really a stablecoin? 01:11:18 Redemptions, weekend liquidity & market structure 01:19:59 Market pressure, sentiment & potential short attacks 01:22:56 Closing bull case for Strategy 01:25:18 Closing thoughts from K A L E O

Apyx

27,673 views • 23 days ago

LIVE NOW - Michael Salor’s Master Plan: "Fix the Money, Fix the World." Bitcoin to $21M. Strategy as a digital credit machine. An “8% bank account” for a billion people. Michael Michael Saylor joins Bankless for the first time to unpack: - Bitcoin becomes digital capital - Strategy’s Bitcoin credit machine - Quantum without panic - A new view on Ethereum - The “fix the money” thesis Enjoy the episode! -------------- TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 1:00 Michael Saylor’s $21M Bitcoin thesis 4:33 What has to go right for Bitcoin to get there 11:00 Has Bitcoin adoption stalled out? 13:20 Why STRC became Strategy’s breakout product 18:05 The pitch behind a Bitcoin-backed money market 21:13 How STRC is engineered to stay stable 27:31 Where the 11.5% yield comes from 36:35 Is Strategy taking too much risk? 46:50 Does Strategy ever stop buying Bitcoin? 58:48 Quantum, panic, and the Bitcoin response 1:16:18 Michael Saylor on Ethereum today 1:25:46 “Fix the money, fix the world” 1:38:39 The crypto reactor and Strategy’s endgame
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LIVE NOW - Michael Salor’s Master Plan: "Fix the Money, Fix the World." Bitcoin to $21M. Strategy as a digital credit machine. An “8% bank account” for a billion people. Michael Michael Saylor joins Bankless for the first time to unpack: - Bitcoin becomes digital capital - Strategy’s Bitcoin credit machine - Quantum without panic - A new view on Ethereum - The “fix the money” thesis Enjoy the episode! -------------- TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 1:00 Michael Saylor’s $21M Bitcoin thesis 4:33 What has to go right for Bitcoin to get there 11:00 Has Bitcoin adoption stalled out? 13:20 Why STRC became Strategy’s breakout product 18:05 The pitch behind a Bitcoin-backed money market 21:13 How STRC is engineered to stay stable 27:31 Where the 11.5% yield comes from 36:35 Is Strategy taking too much risk? 46:50 Does Strategy ever stop buying Bitcoin? 58:48 Quantum, panic, and the Bitcoin response 1:16:18 Michael Saylor on Ethereum today 1:25:46 “Fix the money, fix the world” 1:38:39 The crypto reactor and Strategy’s endgame

Bankless

517,909 views • 3 months ago