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WE STILL DON’T GET BRACKET 4

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D’USSÉ RHODEZ  的头像
D’USSÉ RHODEZ 3 个月前

It’s just suped up bracket three. Leave us in peace lol. I don’t wanna have to win with thoracle or breach everytime.

tkwg 的头像
tkwg3 个月前

Bracket 4 is for people who don’t want to worry about the bracket system but are smart enough to not play “cedh”

Kole B. 的头像
Kole B.3 个月前

To me, it probably boils down to making the deck the most optimized it can for that specific commander. For example, an Alela deck isn’t cEDH because the commander is bad. But if I make a deck optimizing it to its top potential, it’s too strong to sit at bracket 3

Ory-Senpai || Manga in the Midlife Crisis 🍜📚☕️ 的头像
Ory-Senpai || Manga in the Midlife Crisis 🍜📚☕️3 个月前

bracket 4 is for people who want to play cEDH, but don't want to play with THE PEOPLE who play cEDH.

JT 的头像
JT3 个月前

Bracket 3 and 4 are for people who know what theyre doing but care more about having fun and playing what they want.

MOJA.A 的头像
MOJA.A3 个月前

"your commander is strong, and you optimized your deck around it, why not throw that all away and play thoracleslop with the rest of us?"

CytrexDestroyer 的头像
CytrexDestroyer3 个月前

The basketball analogy doesn't make too much sense. Its more like B4 and cEDH are the equivalent to tuned street racing cars and Nascar/F1 racing. Nascar you have pure efficiency/speed. B4 you'll have more "flavor" like a street car would have "style"

Yubi 的头像
Yubi3 个月前

maybe both formats are fake and people should be on 60 card if they want to play a competitive format 🤷

UndesirableBetaRay 的头像
UndesirableBetaRay3 个月前

Bracket 4 isn’t fringe cedh for most pods, it’s just commander decks that are better than bracket 3s running strats that aren’t Cedh. Bracket 4 decks play combos like Kogla, E Wit, Extra turn spell not meta strats. heres my bracket 4 list for an example.

wingenn 的头像
wingenn3 个月前

I understand that the difference between low tier cedh and bracket 4 is weird but the best explanation I heard was from maldhound, bracket means you try to win with your commander in a certain way and try to do whatever you can to accomplish that as fast as possible. *

Ego 的头像
Ego3 个月前

Optimized strategy to play with a commander’s ability vs Optimized strategy to win. Bracket 4 plays optimized synergies, and winning is a symptom. CeDH plays optimized win cons, and synergy CAN be a symptom.

SciFi Author James Krake 的头像
SciFi Author James Krake3 个月前

Hear me out, Bracket 4 is just Bracket 3 but without the soft bans where no one is allowed to bitch thay I played Wet Moon in my mono blue merfolk deck because I have islandwalk effects.

Espen Oset 的头像
Espen Oset3 个月前

The way I see it. You can make a strong combo deck in bracket 4 that does whatever wierd commander-centric combo engine or synergy you want. but when you put oracle/consult in your Yarok deck or led/freeze/breach in your Ghyrson Starn deck. its (bad) cedh.

Rito Eltyr 的头像
Rito Eltyr3 个月前

What a dumbass take

JV 的头像
JV3 个月前

"my deck is too strong for bracket 3"

MadMage 的头像
MadMage3 个月前

I'm not surprised you guys don't get it, but I do agree with your premise that brackets 4 and 5 are indistinguishable and therefor lack any real distinction beyond "this deck is better".

Tea 的头像
Tea3 个月前

I think the distinction on cedh vs bracket 4 is very nebulous and I should be allowed to call my deck a cedh deck because that is its intended purpose. Even though I play a “technically” bracket 4 deck because my commander is not in the metagame. It is built FOR CEDH.

Foodtime 的头像
Foodtime3 个月前

Because I like wincons outside of the usual cEDH thoracle/breach wins/etc, and b4 is "expected to play at least 4 turns" while cEDH I've seen people win on turn 0, that doesn't happen in B4

Poolguy57 的头像
Poolguy573 个月前

Tbh I always thought B4 was for the retired cEDH decks.

Sam Moyer 的头像
Sam Moyer3 个月前

I still don't understand the difference between 4 and 5. 5 just means you have this niche little pool of cards you HAVE to include. I guess? But like if you're optimizing your deck fully, you'd be playing those ANYWAY if they were good into what you'd play against.

Daniel Perkins 的头像
Daniel Perkins3 个月前

My decks are mostly bracket 4 because I want to blow up all your lands and they won’t let me do it in bracket 3.

nacho 的头像
nacho3 个月前

I keep hearing that people want to split brackets and make more, and I just think that leads to “out of ten” measurements again where everyone is a 7. I think 3 tiers are all that’s needed: Without game changers, with some amount of game changers, and cEDH with no restrictions.

Talift 的头像
Talift3 个月前

I think this is the dumbest part of interacting with strangers for commander. The bracket system is just so widely interpreted it's annoying.

Cake_Delicious 的头像
Cake_Delicious3 个月前

Or maybe im just too poor for cedh?

Azura 的头像
Azura3 个月前

Wait the fact you just said, "it's like your playing cedh but just not meta and optimized", that is the point of bracket 4. It is like fringe cedh and powerful without playing the meta game and playing metas. Doesn't make it a bad deck, just open your view

(Sounds Like Shay) 的头像
(Sounds Like Shay)3 个月前

Bracket 4 is just decks that could be bracket 5 with jeweled lotus unbanning.

Michael Omega 的头像
Michael Omega3 个月前

The problem is that the fringe commander dosent stand a chance in cedh. My neheb the eternal deck is a powerhouse because of how optimized it is but it pales in comparison to proper cedh

Emery Jade 的头像
Emery Jade3 个月前

So my squirrel girl deck can win turn 3-4 and gets it around 20% if opening hand is good. No game changers no land denials the only bracket 4 to it is wins fast otherwise as others said it’s a 2. I rather do the level system again

Dan 的头像
Dan3 个月前

How I'd fix Commander brackets: 1. Three tiers: casual / tuned / competitive. cEDH is a pregame flag, not a bracket. 2. Define tiers by countable stuff: goldfish turn, combo count, fast mana. No vibes appeals. 3. Replace the Game Changers list with points. Rhystic Study and Drannith Magistrate aren't the same problem. Simple at the bottom, math at the top, where the arguments actually happen.

Mick 的头像
Mick3 个月前

It does indeed make no sense 😆 bracket system needs a solid rework. Like its got good bones I think, but everything needs restructured ground up.

ArkairNDragbyss 的头像
ArkairNDragbyss3 个月前

I cant play a fully optimised Belakor or Ur Dragon deck in CEDH Bracket 4 point is to build your favourite commander without restrictions, at a high power level

JumboCactuar72 的头像
JumboCactuar723 个月前

My entire playgroup only plays B3 and B4 but mostly it's B4. It's fun, we dont use proxies. If we wanted to have any B5 games we'd all need proxies.

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