What makes someone English?

"Everyone who has a British passport is equally British or English." You know that isn't true. Why are you saying it?

Having English ancestry. Nothing else.

I'll save you all ten minutes of liberal bullshit and give you the real answer: Ancestry.

I'll hand it to you, Jacob. I've never seen such historical knowledge be put to such sophistry. A few points: 1. Anyone who celebrates an Indian or Pakistani independence day, or organises along African identity, is inherently defining himself as being outside the British identity. They know who they got independence from, they know who they want reparations from. They know they're not the same. 2. St Thomas Aquinas, a better Catholic than you or I, knew perfectly well that you cannot give political rights to people in the first generation of migrants. Meaning that at least everyone who is in Britain since say 1996 is eligible for deportation (including yours truly). 3. For what you said to be true, you would expect to see Asians and whites at Notting Hill Carnival in equal numbers to blacks. Instead, you see just as many Indians at Notting Hill as you see Chinese at Duwali. The evidence before your eyes shows you that there has not been integration. Just parallel communities that are naturally in conflict with one another. 4. Existing laws permit the Home Secretary to strip millions of their citizenship. This is still under the law, and would be a very good thing. And the laws to revoke citizenships can be expanded further. 5. Your views are not based in ancient British traditions as you claim - not a single Briton from the time of Alfred or King James would recognise Sunak as English. They're based in Tony Blair's version of British values. You're a modernist in a top hat. 6. A cat born in a barn remains a cat. 7. The devil was the first libertarian.

Their DNA. It’s an ethnicity. It’s heritage and bloodlines It’s deep ties to the land called England for multiple generations. It NOT having British Passport It’s NOT even being born in England. An Englishman born in Tokyo is not Japanese. A Punjabi born in England is not English.

You're supposed to be smart... you are traitors and you will reap what you have sowed

Here’s a graph which should help explain matters

I guess being willing to die for Zelensky? At least by your standard.

Have your children signed up to fight yet Jacob ?

Sorry Jacob, but through this whole lecture I could only think of @ABridgen's line… you're a proper Quockerwodger. 😆 (19th-century British slang for a politician who's just a puppet mouthing someone else's words rather than their own convictions.)

What makes a former MP hate the population he was once responsible for governing?

Ancestry you fucking victorian lamppost.

It's not about 'skin colour' Mogg, this is basic geneology. You cannot claim English ethnicity if you do not descend from the native people of these Isles. Rishi Sunak is simply not English, a basic DNA test it would show him of South Asian extraction.

Brilliant. One minute you're demanding English lads show duty to their country's survival, the next, you're denying they exist as a unique ethnic group. You really are something, aren't you, Jacob.

DNA is the only thing that makes some English, Scottish or English.

"We must stop mass migration" - ok we agree it's bad. " everyone who has a British passport is British" - so mass migration - a bad thing - results in a millions more people 'becoming British' . How can you state something is bad but then be in favor of the consequences of it?

You are such a pompous prick.

I counted at least 3 dictionaries behind you. I suggest you consult one of those.

Ancestry.

Getting ready to hear the shittiest takes of all time

I don’t know Sir Jacob

Oh my God he's still talking

“Mass migration must be stopped”. But you were part of the Johnson Cabinet that oversaw the biggest net migration in Britain’s history. Why was this allowed to happen?

You know they’re English… when they say it’s time for war. Africans, Arabs, Indians… will not fight wars for England. Heritage English are expected to fight for a country that is actively replacing them. Because “Ruzzia bad”. Every current and former MP needs to boot up.

We all know what an English person is, and it's not this bullshit 😂

We are not sending our boys to fight your shit war Jacob. I’m really quite disappointed in you

No it’s if they are actually English, it’s ethnicity - read more here - my identity isn’t a set of values, or a feeling for foreigners to larp as a skin suit. You are a CONSERVATIVE MP, what are you doing? - the liberal consensus doesn’t get to decide genealogy, only GENES do

Ancestry. Anything else is a fucking lie.

A piece of paper doesn't make you English I'm afraid.

What makes someone English is blood and ethnicity. If you aren't descended from the Celtic Britons and Anglo-Saxons you aren't English. Get in the bin you pompous prick.

I wonder if the boomers will ever realize that they will be the most hated generation of human history for their "civic nationalism" bullshit.

If being English / British is only a matter of paperwork, and not of heritage, culture, or ancestry, then great news: go recruit your army from the newly arrived migrants. You don't have a shortage. You're just being picky. Indigenous English / British men are staying home.

When are your two eldest signing up to do their duty??? I'll wait.