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What would Solana’s consensus look like in a post-quantum world? Meet Quantumglow: a proposed adaptation of Alpenglow that aims to protect consensus while preserving fast finality. Jacob Creech and Quentin Kniep explain how it works. Full video below👇

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Full Quantumglow whiteboard session here:

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@jacobvcreech @qkniep 🌄

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@jacobvcreech @qkniep solana:9tpHqTJ2d8jMZJjZzsf9MCfnCEmbAjsqjPJ56PzSpump

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@jacobvcreech @qkniep Already built and running by @opeqio !

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@jacobvcreech @qkniep @opeqio @Sercan0x

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@jacobvcreech @qkniep wow new cast member?

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@jacobvcreech @qkniep @opeqio built this

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@jacobvcreech @qkniep @opeqio already has it

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@jacobvcreech @qkniep This has already been built. We keep tagging you, but you’re not noticing it. It was built by just one person, without any help from anyone. It’s time for you to finally take notice. This is the first of its kind. @opeqio .. @solana @toly

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@jacobvcreech @qkniep Quentin working on quantum 🫡

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@jacobvcreech @qkniep @opeqio has already built this @toly

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@jacobvcreech @qkniep Post-quantum consensus is huge. On the wallet side, @opeqio is already live on mainnet: quantum-resistant signatures, same Solana address 🔐

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@jacobvcreech @qkniep OPEQ has already built this

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@jacobvcreech @qkniep @defido 👀

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@jacobvcreech @qkniep quantum-proof solana? count me in! curious about the tech.

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@jacobvcreech @qkniep Finally, actual blockchain devs are working on implementing quantum-resistant algorithms.

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@jacobvcreech @qkniep 😮

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@jacobvcreech @qkniep Pretty bullish 👀

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@jacobvcreech @qkniep Good to see post-quantum work start at the consensus layer while the new finality numbers are fresh. Curious whether larger post-quantum signatures mostly cost bandwidth, or whether they also put pressure on the 150ms target.

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@jacobvcreech @qkniep How many glows more??? Trillions 🤯

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@jacobvcreech @qkniep Opeq already done this with working product

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@jacobvcreech @qkniep ⚡⚡⚡

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