When you don't go down their dialogue tree:

mfw my parents rambling at the dinner table indoctrinating me didn't prepare me for this debate

Of course he does not want to be legally compelled to donate a kidney to his child! How dare any hypothetical infringe on his rights as a man!

When you forget to bring logical and moral consistency with you to the debate.

You're not debating in good faith. Who's bankrolling your voice?

Wow what a retarded hypothetical. No destiny murdering a child is not analogous to letting the child die of disease

If the parent were the more proximate causal agent to the child's kidney failure...say they found it fun to inject a nephrotoxic agent into their child that had a reasonable chance of sending their child into kidney failure (but of course took responsible protective measures by using a diluted version of it with a lower probability of resulting in kidney failure) and kidney failure happened I suspect I would think there's a moral obligation for the parent to donate their kidney in that situation. I suspect you'd think so too. Same for parents who create children who are embryo selected with a reasonably high chance of having mutated defective kidneys for fun. Seems pretty evil to not donate your kidney to the child you created to be mutated with such a condition, no? If the parent is the proximate and ultimate cause of the child's state of neediness, they knew the risks, engaged in it regardless, and particularly in cases of negligence where protective measures aren't even taken (In the hypothetical they were, but say for a moment they weren't), the moral obligation to donate an expendable organ in a case like that seems overdetermined, no?

I love how Destiny openly avoids answering a question then posts his pivot like it's a win. None of this shit works outside his hug box lol.

He wants a woman to let a baby grow in them for 9 months but he isn't even willing to donate BLOOD??? Bro.

Bros mind broke

What an awful analogy, this must go hard if you have a sub 90 IQ

Refusing to donate a kidney is not morally equivalent to stealing someone’s kidney

I like the "Destiny is dishonest/bad faith/avoiding because he doesn't assume my argument the instant I make it!" strat, good memes.

You need to expand on the hypothetical. Just grant it and show how it is not realistic. At what point would the parent no longer be obligated, or is it their entire life? What about the second child? What about after you donated your first kidney, are you obligated to donate the other if a third child needs it? The comparison just falls apart.

The type of argument he’s presenting is exactly what the Supreme Court does in Oral Arguments to determine the logical bounds of a proposition.

“No, don’t ask questions like that”

Oh americans. Thinking speaking fast is the same as being smart. What was the orginal question?

Who is this nitwit? he sure likes to ask strange questions? like, how do you donate a kidney to your kid pre birth? that is what his argument sounded like.

> Refuse to answer question > Ask own question instead > Person (Admittedly NPC) does not answer > "I won" Neither of you answered shit, you just veiled your failure with dishonest debate optics vs a nervous NPC. Embarrassing.

I mean no, they should not be required to do it legally. They will very likely just want to do it emotionally and morally though but that falls into their freedom of choice. There is actually a hidden big difference here though. One is system failure and one is intentional system (or entity) collapse. You know.. and I have no idea how this could be realistic but it's just to stress the point here.... if it were up to me... women would of course be allowed to choose if they get an abortion or not. And for edge cases like rape/incest/health risks I don't have any standards. But without that... without the edge case... if you want an abortion... I only want one thing. I want you to admit you are ending the life path of a human entity of your own free will and that is your decision. If you can't do that you don't know what decision you are making.

It’s not a great argument from the guy. Choosing not to donate a kidney or blood or whatever isn’t the same as a positive act to end life. That said, as awful as I think abortion is, I can’t get to prohibiting it and forcing a woman to host an unwanted pregnancy.

I mean... props to everyone for being polite, but all that pro-lifer accomplished was to expose himself as a very polite fuckin' moron.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I get it now. You thought they way that guy disengaged with your blather was a "Ragequit". If you think that was raging, you ain't gonna make it.

I’m so sick of people acting like they don’t have basic pattern, recognition and self-control. We’re the smartest species on the planet. We know how babies are made, and we built the technology that kills them too. The pro choice argument is so fucking dumb.

Me as a pilot after finding out I have no obligation to fly people from one place to another (I have no obligation to keep people on board once they’re in the air):

He really posted this thinking it’s some high IQ argument

You're not actually speaking to the argument... engaging in logical fallacies.

Destiny out there breaking NPCs

This is the problem with these libertarian people. YES a parent is morally obligated to donate a kidney, i would personally support legally as well. You cant be pro life and not support free school lunches and social benefits. Nor should you be a parent if a kidney is too much

jus debate Andrew on the topic instead of being passive about morality

This is how to stay logically consistent: It's murder. thats fucking it. If the unborn child is a human being, then intentionally killing it is the killing of an innocent human being. Everything else is moral evasion. No. You may not be morally obligated to donate your kidney. But that does not mean you are morally permitted to directly kill the child.

Tbh I would think it's good for a parent to give a kidney to their child if its necessary for them to live but I dunno about legally obligated

Dude is such a cuck fag

That's the opposite of rage baiting. As usual destiny's raging as this is MO