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Where do we draw the line on transgender athletes?
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The line is drawn in the exact same place it is for everyone else: compete in your sex category. There is nothing more inclusive than being told to follow the identical rules as the rest of society.

Someone please tell Cenk there are no “genital checks.” Also, there are no “transgender athletes.” We are talking about men and boys.

I mean, I'm genuinely not surprised at all that a Muslim cares more about some random stranger's son than his own daughter. It's kind of their thing to put females below males.

He literally cares more about random boys than his own daughter! 😭 The medical exam is the same as it’s always been. It’s been standard for 50 years. You get a physical with your personal doctor. The “genital check” rhetoric is pure hyperbole. Girls deserve fair sports and privacy in their locker rooms. These boys can play with other boys!

— Lying to a child is not “protecting” them. When you tell a boy he can be a girl, you set him up for a lifetime of struggle. Not only will he potentially be a lifelong medical patient who is anorgasmic & sterile with a damaged endocrine system, he will also never actually be a woman. He will never be fully accepted by women as a fellow woman. He will struggle with relationships, both romantic & platonic. You are a coward for going along with this charade. Any thinking adult can see this is profound child abuse.

The line has been there forever- male and female. Simple. The rest is commentary

This isn’t about “transgender athletes!” There have ALREADY been transgender athletes in the WNBA. Remember Layshia Clarendon? The women’s category will always include The women who claim trans identities. This is about protecting the women’s category from MEN. It’s not an identity issue, it’s a SEX BASED issue.

What a ridiculous take by Cenk.

So many things wrong with his arguments. 1. This is an issue that affects every single female athlete who plays sports. If you allow males into girls'/women's sport, you do not actually have women's sport any longer. What you have are mixed sports where at any moment, in any league, a male could decide to join if he would like. Fairness for every athlete in those leagues then rests entirely on the whims of a boy or man. 2. Even "just one" athlete affects hundreds if not thousands of people. They affect every athlete in the league they play on, every athlete in the competitions they enter. These boys play in multiple sports on multiple teams. They affect hundreds of girls. Boys at the high school level in the USA have displaced at least 2,949 top three medals. That does not include the girls outside the top three they have displaced. It does not include the girls they have displaced in national or state rankings. Girls have been injured. They have had other awards stolen, like MVP and All-Conference honors. They have had their privacy violated. 3. Males do not need to play on girls' teams in order to benefit from sport. This is an utterly ridiculous claim that we can see with our own eyes is false. Men like Will "Lia" Thomas, Craig "CeCe" Telfer, Gavin "Laurel" Hubbard, etc. all played sports on boys' teams as youth. They had no issues. Thomas has even talked about how much it meant to him. We can see boys who currently identify as "girls" on boys' teams, and they have no issue. "Kylie" Arnot won three state championship boys' diving medals. "Lorelei" Barrett switched back to the boys' team at his school without issue. Carlos "Carolyn" Maldonado played on a boys' club volleyball team at the same time he played girls' lacrosse. Boys' have been banned from girls' sports in 29 states and there have been no issues there. The fear that it will suddenly disrupt life for them in the remaining states is simply unfounded. 4. Fears over "genital inspections" are also unfounded, and if one is still talking about them at this point, it's simply ignorant. Again, there are now female only sports in 29 states and there has not been a single report of these supposed "genital inspections." Sex tests only require a cheek swab. Original birth certificates can be required. All students must get physicals prior to participation in school sport. Boys are already, quite literally, required to have a genital inspection (known as the "turn and cough test") where they are checked for hernias. 5. "When you're a kid I'm gonna protect you." He's only protecting the male kids here, certainly not the female. Boys need boundaries, not men like this teaching them they can do whatever they want at the expense of girls or that they will get their way if they threaten suicide. There are no harms involved in telling a boy "no." This man is willing to sacrifice the hopes and dreams of every single female athlete just so a single boy can get his rocks off and can have his fantasies "validated."

What the fuck is this moron talking about? He must of never played sports. “Then we will have to check kids genitalia”!? Every person who participates in high school sports has to get a PHYSICAL from a doctor.

GFY @cenkuygur you bloviating jackass. Good to know you think so little of girls in high school that you dismiss them as a "balancing act" and then in the same breath dismiss them as irrelevant. One instance of this is one too many!

Someone should inform him that 1) we have cheek swab tests for sex 2) usually they aren't needed because we have eyeballs 3) the "genital exam" hyperbole comes straight from trans porn

How uninformed. Over 6000 boys have taken girls 1st place finishes. How many other girls does that displace moving down from there? Women’s and girls permission is not transferable particularly not to a man. NO.

Cenk says this happening to OUR teenaged daughters is worth it because he wouldn’t want to hurt the feelings of biological boys. Fuck you.

This clip exemplifies the issue concretely. They want to pretend, they want us to pretend, and we're all mean for noticing the fact that they are not women. "13 kids or 130 kids" - so, then let's turn over all existing norms for .0000000001%. Bad faith arguments.

, why didn't you challenge his ridiculous idea of checking children's genitalia? Nobody would do that. When children register at a school, the parents need to bring a birth certificate. The child's sex should be on record. And why does he not care about traumatizing all of the girls by shoving a boy past their boundaries? He knows they're boys. He's just a rank misogynist. Boys matter to him more than girls.

Why are we asking chronically obese men about women’s sports?

What is with these men who would put the desires of a random boys over the needs of their daughters? Too bad Joy, some kid wants to push you off the track. Go sit down Joy. Daddy doesn’t care about you. Daddy has empathy. Just not for you, dear. WOWWWWWWW

The problem is that you're starting with a conclusion that is a lie. There is NO SUCH THING as "transgender athletes".

He's bit of a pedo for focusing in on kids genitalia when a simple mouth swab would tell you the same thing and more accurately... J/S

No one is checking genitals. And lets stop pretending everyone doesn't already know who the trans athletes are. What he is saying is girls don't matter.

I can't listen to Cenk's voice so I'm just reading it..Here are some numbers . Cenk seems to just dismiss the lower levels of sports. I've coached boys and girls basketball and girls softball. Girls are just as fierce of competitors and dedicated as boys! They just aren't boys.

Why are you platforming an Islamofascist, terrorist-supporting MAN who is pro bestiality and thinks boys can be girls, on the question of the protection of female sporting categories? He can know nothing about women’s sport, amply demonstrated by the almost fact-free gibberish he spouts in this clip. To call him an intellectual lightweight would be to over praise him massively. He’s a grifting, narcissistic, loud mouthed bully who is given far too much air time to spew his hate-filled rhetoric.

you can check a cheek swab, why is he obsessed with looking at genitalia? Progressives are weirdos.

We draw the same line we do for everyone else. Why should any self-selecting group of male athletes have the right to choose the sex of their sports competition?

Those young women (that he so casually dismisses) are missing out on things like scholarships and college choices, because they are allowing biological males to compete against them. His cavalier attitude about this is disgusting.

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High School sports are the training ground for future sports stars. If girls have to compete against males in schools, they won’t be the future stars.

You mean men in women's sports. Why do men always conveniently forget "transgender athletes" are male and female?

"I would rather have my daughter finish 2nd, 3rd or 8th than traumatize those kids."

So fucking intellectually lazy. And he thinks we can't see it. What a condescending piece of shit he is. He genuinely thinks we are stupid. So utterly detestable.

Incredible. And as I keep saying, Things can’t simultaneously be trivial and critical. If the numbers are so vanishingly small, it should be no problem for those few kids to stick to their sex category.

Why do idiots like this man talk about genital inspections/tests especially for kids? No such thing has ever been required. Trans doesn't exist in adults or children. It's a label for mental health issues and with older males that includes sexual paraphiliac disorders. If there has to be sex testing then a cheek swab test will suffice. What a useless father he is for prioritising boys feelings over his daughter's & other girls' reality when it comes to their fairness in sports, privacy, dignity & safety too. What this man says is a massive 🚩and demonstrates his total disregard for female boundaries. 🚫 No males in females' sports. 🚫 No men in women's sports. 🚫 No boys in girls' sports. 🚫 No means NO! Trans is misogynistic bullshit!

If discomfort with your tribe possibly thinking you are a bigot precludes actually supporting troubled/ misled kids, you might be a pussy. @cenkuygur These kids are in The Truman Show, with all the smiling bobble headed adults rushing to play along. NOT KIND.

‘Males have a performance advantage in all sports and events that rely on strength, power and/or endurance irrespective of subsequent testosterone suppression’ (IOC 2026). See: Sex, Gender Identity and Sport | Cathy Devine | Taylor & Francis eBook
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