While I understand the idea that All Pro and All American difficulty is "authentic" in Madden 27 and College Football 27, I'd argue that authenticity should be a paramount for the entire game, not just one difficulty. If All Pro is authentic, why do good users dominate it?

I’ve always played on all pro and all American. I just crank the sliders up in favor of the cpu until I get a good challenge without the bs cheese that you get on all madden and heisman.

If I play all pro im putting 100 up in the 1st quarter lol if not in the 2nd

Counter point: Is wanting a harder game than the authentic game in itself, unauthentic? The definition of authentic is the issue it seems. You play however you want, but authentic is by its very nature and definition a finite thing based on genuine truth.

Correct - but if authentic wouldn't NFL coaches (emulated by the CPU) be smarter than anything I could do in game?

Yes and no. You have the same rules. The same playbook, in a sense. This is where strategy comes to play. Like chess. Masters can be beaten by upstarts that have dedicated themselves to it. I don’t think it is unreasonable to think that people that dedicate hours to the game can be effective regularly. Now can the AI adjust dynamically to your moves is another thing, but I don’t want my authentic game to break physics.

Right - but that's what All Madden and Heisman have been doing: artificially boosting the opponent in cases where they shouldn't. Harder shouldn't be 'cheating'. It should be smarter.

Because you don’t understand the context. Authentic applies to playing true to ratings and base coding. Once you go in higher level, the only metric is difficulty and being harder, by any means.

Don’t play madden but that’s a huge gripe of mine on cfb. My 85 ovr vs a 60 ovr team is evenly matched on Heisman. The game isn’t designed (vs cpu) to be strategic, set up plays, make adjustments, etc. it’s designed to find and execute the plays that work the best & cheese them

I can’t play on all pro or all American because I seriously beat the cpu by 70+ every single game it’s so boring to me.

SKOL nice hat

FACTS!

Yeah. I wish the game was more the way you're describing it to be than just "All-Madden cheats more" and that's why it's more difficult. I'm fine with getting cooked by 40 when it's me making idiot stuff happen. Not when an avatar gets an unwarranted speed boost or some other BS

All that is implied by “authentic” is just no boosted ratings tbh. The issue at hand is that the defense AI and offensive playcalling just isn’t good enough to outsmart the user. So they have to make all madden play boosted to make it more even. Now I usually play all madden bc if it’s too easy to isn’t fun imo

“We’ve heard your feedback, so now in Madden 28 you’ll be able to tune the gameplay to your desired experience! Introducing: Sim, Comp, and Arcade play. 3 completely different ways to play the game and not just a logo on the scoreboard this time!”

You’re also playing against a CPU/AI which will react, choose and make the right play call faster, smarter, and more efficient than you. Most of the time. Unless you know the exploits. I for one honestly play all American all pro, and use coach suggestions lol. More randomness.

Potentially, and this is just a thought out loud, because they are not playing authentic football themselves and are maximizing their efforts on the exploits in the video game.

All pro feels like rookie to me idk I like a challenge madden is getting too easy

But theoretically a coach mode on All American/All Pro would be the most authentic?

Super accurate once you get to the point where your putting up semi unrealistic stats on all-madden/heisman even with the game cheating you I don’t think you can go down a level in difficulty and struggle

You have innate advantages by having a birds eye view of the field every play and being able to see every direction around your QB and ball carriers at all times. If they made a 1:1 copy of football statistically, any decent player would outperform the real thing.

If the AI was better recognizing those userer using money plays on them and adjusting for it, it would change everything

Long time Franchise player and this was always known with any bit of testing. The issue was users knowing the little quirks and exploits that always create a win. Draft Tyreek and run a streak every play because for some reason, the corner always presses in a certain playcall.

I cannot play AP or AA. Tried it after watching the @KurtBenkert video and scored 21 points in 3 minutes with the Raiders. Just gonna wait for someone to figure out good sliders on both games for hardest difficulty

I think it’s moreso authentic for relative speed, trueness to ratings, velocity on throws, reactions times, etc. Heisman and All-Madden have always had ratings boosts to make them harder. I think the word authentic was maybe not the ideal choice of word. The game isn’t authentic by its nature on any difficulty or in any mode.

Shame you can’t edit sliders in Superstar Mode!

The ratings are too high IMO, and if you have any knowledge on how to read the game, it shouldn't be hard to play. I think the AI decision making needs to be cranked up rather than the collision system to make the game stop you easier.

These are facts

It’s goofy but all-madden not being a more difficult but simply less fair mode has made playing normal but challenging football almost impossible

Takes a lot of slider changes to actually make it challenging on all pro

I'm just confused with this All-Pro vs All-Madden debate, is it only related to playing CPU or does it also have an effect on users H2H?

Using Front End rosters with highly inflated POS ratings, which are nothing more than “Helpers” for the User - easy throws - easy catches - easy run lanes via inflated OL Once these players are fully flushed out, Generated players increase Difficulty via lower scale POS ratings

Weird this is even being discussed. There's lots of old head franchise die hards that use custom sliders on All-Madden to make it even harder. @Matt10L has been making custom sliders for harder than AllMadden gameplay for years. Sliders should be adjusted as you get better.

I’ve used AP with some sliders. I do have to make house rules for myself tho

I would love ratings, archetypes, coach philosophy, strategy to be what matters. I win 99% of games on Heisman and I can tell when the CPU is just gonna score and the rubber band is happening. Feels forced just to be harder

I think it makes more sense when talking user vs user but agree against cpu.

Who said all pro and all American were that . Thats what heisman and madden levels are for

If video games would use a true 0-99 rating system instead of almost every single player essentially being 65+ it would go a long way in helping the game be more challenging. Rosters are just too good for too big of a skill gap to emerge vs cpu