Wrong Seat Poker Problem! 27 left post-break. Gray beard/ponytail sits in seat 9, first hand, shoves QQ, loses to KK. Actual seat 9 (black hair & beard) returns late to an empty chair & his stack is totally gone. What is the official ruling? Who is truly eliminated? #pokercommunity... #pokerlife #pokerx #pokertwitter #PokerRules #PokerHands⁠ #LApoker #SoCalPoker⁠ #CaliforniaPokershow more

Give the real seat owner his chips back. Take equivalent off erroneous player’s stack. If he can’t cover it, he’s out. Leave hand winner alone. Closest thing to perfect solution.

What makes the most sense to me is: QQ shove guy is DQd KK winner returns stack to late guy KK winner gets QQ shove's guy actual stack amount late guy gets his stack back less blinds/action if any

I don’t see how guy that wasn’t there doesn’t get his stack back. Not sure what happens to guy that sat in wrong seat or guy that won the pit

Yes, guy who didn’t play a hand must get his stack back, right?

@seemitch Surprised nobody at the table didn’t notice it wasn’t the same person playing before?

@papapok3r @seemitch With 27 left it was probably a re-draw+break so everyone came and put their stacks at their new seats then went and did bathroom. 27 is one of those magic redraw numbers under WSOP rules, and lots of places use those:

@Cryptonytegang @seemitch Fair thought. Actually magically ended up at 3 tables and 27 at the end of the break and it was the last chance for entries / rebuys so new people were showing up at tables.

Imagine explaining to the guy "I got it in good man"

Literally have no idea what to do here.

Imo, dark hair guy is unfortunately out. His stack is gone, likely would have been out anyway. Grey hair guy should have his actual stack removed from play and he should also be shown the door.

Gray hair guy is toast

what’s the ruling @SavagePoker

What happens if he won the double up 🤔

There is no universe where a player who wasn't at the table should have responsibility here, other than being blinded. This is not a debate.

I actually think it’s pretty simple - Winner of hand keeps chips - Dude in wrong seat that lost hand is out and his real stack is removed from play - Dude that wasn’t at seat when his stack was shoved gets his chips back (and he’s lucky cause he busts if he’s at his seat)

Please follow for more videos like this. Thx! Tournament was paused 20 mins to check the cameras. Late player's stack was reconstructed, KK winner kept the pot and gray beard was booted even though he still had a few chips at his actual table on the left. Wild!

What ended up happening?

Grey beard is eliminated. Black beard’s stack is reconstructed to best of everyone’s knowledge. All players earn storytelling privileges for life.

I think just add whatever chips he lost to his stack but don’t take away chips from anyone who benefited.

Tell us what happened.

Actual Seat 9 gets his stack back from KK. Gray beard stack goes to KK and he’s out with a warning/ban for a week.

Logical process a) player who won the hand retains all chips won b) player who lost all chips without playing a hand gets all chips back, by staff adding that amount into play c) player who lost QQ < KK is eliminated from tournament and his stack at other table is picked up

So what was the ruling ? Is this so annoying cliffhanger or am I missing something?

Standard floor ruling: action stands. Seat verification is on the player, so the chips that went in are gone with the seat - real seat 9 walks back to a dead stack and he's out. Ponytail returns to his own seat with his own stack, usually with a penalty attached.

I was in a tournament at WSOP, went on break, sat down and a guy sits to my right who was not sitting next to me for six hours. Told him he’s in the wrong seat, told me to fu** off. Dealer deals cards and player arrives. Asks the guy why you sitting in my seat? Plays dumb.

Easy decision. The guy that played the stack. Bye bye

How does nobody else at the table notice that the wrong guy sits down. Isn’t it their responsibility to let the dealer know if they see this occur?

How didn't the table notice that the wrong guy was at the seat? Was it final 27 redraw quick break then resuming play?

Saw this exact thing happen in a WSOPC event itm with about 80 people left. It was the table right behind mine. Guy who sat in wrong seat - eliminated & his correct stack removed Guy who won chips - keeps them Guy who was late - sits at correct seat & is given his correct stack

Definitely a strange situation, but you have to take into account The true player was not in his seat when the cards were dealt. Therefore, his hand would’ve been killed. None of his chips would’ve gone in the pot. While the idiot who sat in that seat and played the hand changed the outcome, that’s unfortunate for any other players in the hand, but the chip should be returned to the player as though his hand were killed.

Please tell us the official decision!

Poker floor management should be eliminated.

I'm very much invested in how this turns out

First thing you do is you punch the guy in the throat who set in the wrong chair after that I don’t know

Guessing hand is dead, stack refunded and disqual for guy who sat in wrong seat

Heard about a similar case, it wasn't good news. The ruling back then: The player is in charge of his own stack, if he wasn't there - his problem.. And the player who sat in the wrong chair - DQed

tourney director polling data top 3 player types that create the most problems: 3. argumentative players 2. speech play players 1. old guys

This is at Commerce Casino. Ill ask to see what actually happened and let everyone know. Lol

@out_of_position OG seat nine should not be penalized for someone else’s mistake. Players are allowed to leave the table during break without fear that their stack will be manipulated. Reconstruct his stack as best as possible. Imposter is eliminated and his chips removed from play.