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You should try using canvas-driven-development Since we're building 100x more features, that means you have 100x more QA but you can't try everything by hand so have your agents do it: write evals for how it should work, and put screenshots in a big canvas

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dotta 📎2 gün önce

with Paperclip, we have to make sure our agents ask questions, write plans, save artifacts, create subtasks across dozens of models in various harnesses evals are the only way - but we're testing e2e and you want to have screenshots and the full chat when things go wrong

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dotta 📎2 gün önce

You aren't even testing specific outputs anymore, you're testing probability distributions

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Andrew Warner2 gün önce

❤️❤️❤️

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Enhans2 gün önce

Screenshots in a canvas work because review scales by glance, while evals scale through explicit checks. The gap is what neither one catches: state that only breaks on the third run. How are you catching those today?

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Chris Waldron13 saat önce

This looks awesome. I had built something similar for a website re-do. I am not a programmer by trade so most of these management systems are text heavy and i never want to look at them or read through. I like the idea of a visual decisions lane post testing

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Jurly2 gün önce

the canvas becomes a living regression suite for the whole product

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AKLO2 gün önce

Damn ur doin God's work

Mithushan Jalangan profil fotoğrafı
Mithushan Jalangan1 gün önce

Works wonders, added support for PlanDesk ( for prototypes sams as canvas. Helps visualise flows and screens before hand and keeps iterations grounded.

dotta 📎 profil fotoğrafı
dotta 📎1 gün önce

neat

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Robby2 gün önce

💪💪💪💪💪

🧩 David Turner profil fotoğrafı
🧩 David Turner2 gün önce

How do you feel about using canvases? Building something that’s canvas based and it’s been hit or miss feedback.

dotta 📎 profil fotoğrafı
dotta 📎2 gün önce

This is just a one off to try to see all states at once and not really an IDE

🧩 David Turner profil fotoğrafı
🧩 David Turner2 gün önce

Got it. If you find it interesting somehow, would love to hear more about it

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homanp2 gün önce

Wow that’s very nice

Michael? profil fotoğrafı
Michael?2 gün önce

Infinite canvas for infinite work

dotta 📎 profil fotoğrafı
dotta 📎2 gün önce

Feels that way sometimes

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cobi2 gün önce

got a skill for this?

dotta 📎 profil fotoğrafı
dotta 📎2 gün önce

I'll publish one!

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cobi1 gün önce

my dog!

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Adam Dittrich2 gün önce

the hardest part of building is knowing what’s worth shipping when ideas costs $0. taste becomes worthless if ai slop is the moat.

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Adam Dittrich1 gün önce

100% True love rick so much. exactly how i feel building ai systems as a non-coder 😊

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Helmi1 gün önce

I know what a canvas is, your video doesn't really show where the big benefit is though. How are you using them? This looks quite chaotic and hard to overlook. Are these iterations of one task? Is this just visual evidence for the tests an agent handled before?

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Justin Miller1 gün önce

This is my biggest bottleneck, 100X more QA that I can't trust anyone to do

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nany.eth2 gün önce

canvas is just a UI trap

dotta 📎 profil fotoğrafı
dotta 📎2 gün önce

thirst trap

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