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🎥 𝗧𝗢𝗥𝗡𝗘𝗢 𝗔𝗣𝗘𝗥𝗧𝗨𝗥𝗔 𝗙𝗘𝗠𝗘𝗡𝗜𝗡𝗢, 𝗙𝗘𝗖𝗛𝗔 𝟭𝟯: 𝐻𝑜𝑙𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑎 ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑜 🫡

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#ChamisaMnangagwaTalksExposed #AudioTellsBehindTheScenesStory 𝐼𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 ℎ𝑖𝑔ℎ-𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑘𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑎 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑍𝑖𝑚𝑏𝑎𝑏𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑛 𝑠𝑜𝑐𝑖𝑎𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑑𝑖𝑎 𝑏𝑎𝑡𝑡𝑙𝑒𝑓𝑖𝑒𝑙𝑑, 𝑎 𝑑𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑡𝑎𝑙 𝑡𝑖𝑓𝑓 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑤𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑤𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑠 𝐽𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑜𝑢𝑠𝑦 𝑀𝑎𝑤𝑎𝑟𝑖𝑟𝑒, 𝑎 𝑗𝑜𝑢𝑟𝑛𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑠𝑡 𝑏𝑦 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑓𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑓𝑖𝑒𝑟𝑐𝑒𝑙𝑦 𝑐𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑜𝑓 𝑃𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝐸𝑚𝑚𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑀𝑛𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑎𝑔𝑤𝑎'𝑠 𝑔𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑎𝑛𝑑 ℎ𝑖𝑠 2030 𝐴𝑔𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑎, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝐵𝑟𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡𝑜𝑛 𝑀𝑢𝑡𝑒𝑏𝑢𝑘𝑎, 𝑎 𝑈𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝐾𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑑𝑜𝑚-𝑏𝑎𝑠𝑒𝑑 𝑍𝑖𝑚𝑏𝑎𝑏𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑛 𝑙𝑎𝑤𝑦𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑜𝑦𝑎𝑙 𝑡𝑜 𝑚𝑎𝑖𝑛 𝑜𝑝𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑑𝑒𝑟 𝑁𝑒𝑙𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝐶ℎ𝑎𝑚𝑖𝑠𝑎, ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑒𝑥𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑒𝑑 𝑏𝑒ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑐𝑒𝑛𝑒𝑠 𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑜𝑒𝑢𝑣𝑟𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑞𝑢𝑖𝑒𝑡𝑙𝑦 𝑖𝑛𝑓𝑙𝑢𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑐𝑢𝑟𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑠 𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑢𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑐 𝑣𝑖𝑒𝑤. 𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑀𝑎𝑤𝑎𝑟𝑖𝑟𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑀𝑢𝑡𝑒𝑏𝑢𝑘𝑎 𝑏𝑟𝑢𝑡𝑎𝑙 𝑒𝑥𝑐ℎ𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑒𝑠 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑙𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑟𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑏𝑒𝑦𝑜𝑛𝑑 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑖𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑒𝑑. 𝑊ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑏𝑒𝑔𝑎𝑛 𝑎𝑠 𝑎 𝑓𝑖𝑒𝑟𝑐𝑒 𝑋 (𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑚𝑒𝑟𝑙𝑦 𝑇𝑤𝑖𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑟) 𝑓𝑒𝑢𝑑 𝑠𝑜𝑜𝑛 𝑒𝑠𝑐𝑎𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑜 𝑎 𝑏𝑖𝑔 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑠𝑡𝑜𝑟𝑚 𝑖𝑛𝑣𝑜𝑙𝑣𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑦’𝑠 𝑚𝑜𝑠𝑡 𝑝𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑓𝑢𝑙 𝑓𝑖𝑔𝑢𝑟𝑒𝑠, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤𝑛 𝑢𝑛𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤𝑛𝑠 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑐𝑒𝑠𝑠. 𝑃𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑐𝑎𝑛 𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑖𝑙𝑦 𝑠𝑒𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑖𝑠 ℎ𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑤𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑀𝑛𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑎𝑔𝑤𝑎 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝐶ℎ𝑎𝑚𝑖𝑠𝑎, 𝑏𝑢𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑑𝑜𝑛'𝑡 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑖𝑡 𝑖𝑠. 𝐼𝑡'𝑠 𝑎 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤𝑛 𝑢𝑛𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤𝑛. 𝑀𝑎𝑤𝑎𝑟𝑖𝑟𝑒, 𝑎 𝑣𝑜𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑐𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐 𝑜𝑓 𝑀𝑛𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑎𝑔𝑤𝑎'𝑠 2030 𝐴𝑔𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑎, 𝑐𝑙𝑎𝑠ℎ𝑒𝑑 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑀𝑢𝑡𝑒𝑏𝑢𝑘𝑎 𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑇𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑎𝑖 𝐵𝑖𝑡𝑖'𝑠 𝑟𝑜𝑙𝑒 𝑎𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑛𝑒𝑤 𝑓𝑎𝑐𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑜𝑝𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝐶𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑡𝑢𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝐷𝑒𝑓𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝐹𝑜𝑟𝑢𝑚 𝑡𝑜 𝑀𝑛𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑎𝑔𝑤𝑎'𝑠 𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑚 𝑒𝑥𝑡𝑒𝑛𝑠𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝐶ℎ𝑎𝑚𝑖𝑠𝑎'𝑠 𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑥𝑝𝑙𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑏𝑙𝑒 ℎ𝑖𝑏𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑑𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑜𝑓 𝑑𝑢𝑡𝑦, 𝑎𝑠 𝑤𝑒𝑙𝑙 𝑎𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑙𝑒𝑔𝑎𝑙 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑔𝑖𝑒𝑠 𝑟𝑒𝑞𝑢𝑖𝑟𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑠𝑡𝑜𝑝 𝑡ℎ𝑒 "𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑡𝑢𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑙 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑝" 𝑢𝑛𝑑𝑒𝑟𝑤𝑎𝑦. 𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑝𝑢𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑐 𝑠𝑝𝑎𝑡, 𝑚𝑎𝑟𝑘𝑒𝑑 𝑏𝑦 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑎𝑟𝑔𝑢𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑙 𝑗𝑎𝑏𝑠, 𝑖𝑠 𝑡𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔, 𝑑𝑟𝑎𝑤𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑖𝑛 𝑎 𝑚𝑎𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝑎𝑢𝑑𝑖𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑍𝑖𝑚𝑏𝑎𝑏𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑓𝑟𝑢𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑏𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑦'𝑠 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑐𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑖𝑠, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑛𝑜 𝑒𝑛𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑠𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡. 𝑇ℎ𝑖𝑠, 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑝𝑙𝑒𝑑 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐶ℎ𝑖𝑒𝑓 𝐹𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑢𝑛𝑒 𝐶ℎ𝑎𝑟𝑢𝑚𝑏𝑖𝑟𝑎'𝑠 𝐾𝑎𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑎 𝑒𝑡ℎ𝑛𝑖𝑐 ℎ𝑒𝑔𝑒𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑦 𝑝𝑙𝑜𝑡 𝑒𝑥𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑒𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ 𝑎𝑛 𝑎𝑢𝑑𝑖𝑜 𝑖𝑛 𝑀𝑎𝑟𝑐ℎ 2023, 𝑑𝑒𝑠𝑐𝑟𝑖𝑏𝑒𝑑 𝑏𝑦 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒 𝑐𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑠 𝑎𝑠 𝑐𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑎 "𝐺𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑇𝑟𝑖𝑏𝑎𝑙 𝑈𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑦", 𝑓𝑢𝑟𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑒𝑥𝑝𝑙𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 ℎ𝑖𝑑𝑑𝑒𝑛 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑏𝑟𝑜𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑤𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑀𝑛𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑎𝑔𝑤𝑎 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝐶ℎ𝑎𝑚𝑖𝑠𝑎, 𝑎𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑎𝑛𝑡 𝑐𝑙𝑎𝑖𝑚𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑝𝑎𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑔𝑒, 𝑎𝑏𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑢𝑠𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑝𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑟 𝑏𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒, 𝑐𝑜𝑟𝑟𝑢𝑝𝑡 𝑝𝑎𝑦𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑦𝑎𝑙; 𝑤𝑒𝑖𝑟𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑠 𝑐𝑢𝑟𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑙𝑦 ℎ𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑖𝑛 𝑙𝑜𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑠 𝑏𝑒ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑐𝑒𝑛𝑒𝑠. This audio (short version) is a confirmed record of a conversation between main opposition leader Nelson Chamisa, then leading the now defunct MDC Alliance, and First Lady Auxillia Mnangagwa's aide Ben Muneri. Chamisa was exploring ways to negotiate with the First Lady and President Emmerson Mnangagwa to become a Prime Minister in the current Zanu PF government in the aftermath of the hotly disputed 2018 presidential poll amid brutal post-election violence and killings on August 1.

#ChamisaMnangagwaTalksExposed #AudioTellsBehindTheScenesStory 𝐼𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 ℎ𝑖𝑔ℎ-𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑘𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑎 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑍𝑖𝑚𝑏𝑎𝑏𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑛 𝑠𝑜𝑐𝑖𝑎𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑑𝑖𝑎 𝑏𝑎𝑡𝑡𝑙𝑒𝑓𝑖𝑒𝑙𝑑, 𝑎 𝑑𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑡𝑎𝑙 𝑡𝑖𝑓𝑓 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑤𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑤𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑠 𝐽𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑜𝑢𝑠𝑦 𝑀𝑎𝑤𝑎𝑟𝑖𝑟𝑒, 𝑎 𝑗𝑜𝑢𝑟𝑛𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑠𝑡 𝑏𝑦 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑓𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑓𝑖𝑒𝑟𝑐𝑒𝑙𝑦 𝑐𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑜𝑓 𝑃𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝐸𝑚𝑚𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑀𝑛𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑎𝑔𝑤𝑎'𝑠 𝑔𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑎𝑛𝑑 ℎ𝑖𝑠 2030 𝐴𝑔𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑎, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝐵𝑟𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡𝑜𝑛 𝑀𝑢𝑡𝑒𝑏𝑢𝑘𝑎, 𝑎 𝑈𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝐾𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑑𝑜𝑚-𝑏𝑎𝑠𝑒𝑑 𝑍𝑖𝑚𝑏𝑎𝑏𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑛 𝑙𝑎𝑤𝑦𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑜𝑦𝑎𝑙 𝑡𝑜 𝑚𝑎𝑖𝑛 𝑜𝑝𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑑𝑒𝑟 𝑁𝑒𝑙𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝐶ℎ𝑎𝑚𝑖𝑠𝑎, ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑒𝑥𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑒𝑑 𝑏𝑒ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑐𝑒𝑛𝑒𝑠 𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑜𝑒𝑢𝑣𝑟𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑞𝑢𝑖𝑒𝑡𝑙𝑦 𝑖𝑛𝑓𝑙𝑢𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑐𝑢𝑟𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑠 𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑢𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑐 𝑣𝑖𝑒𝑤. 𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑀𝑎𝑤𝑎𝑟𝑖𝑟𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑀𝑢𝑡𝑒𝑏𝑢𝑘𝑎 𝑏𝑟𝑢𝑡𝑎𝑙 𝑒𝑥𝑐ℎ𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑒𝑠 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑙𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑟𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑏𝑒𝑦𝑜𝑛𝑑 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑖𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑒𝑑. 𝑊ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑏𝑒𝑔𝑎𝑛 𝑎𝑠 𝑎 𝑓𝑖𝑒𝑟𝑐𝑒 𝑋 (𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑚𝑒𝑟𝑙𝑦 𝑇𝑤𝑖𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑟) 𝑓𝑒𝑢𝑑 𝑠𝑜𝑜𝑛 𝑒𝑠𝑐𝑎𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑜 𝑎 𝑏𝑖𝑔 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑠𝑡𝑜𝑟𝑚 𝑖𝑛𝑣𝑜𝑙𝑣𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑦’𝑠 𝑚𝑜𝑠𝑡 𝑝𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑓𝑢𝑙 𝑓𝑖𝑔𝑢𝑟𝑒𝑠, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤𝑛 𝑢𝑛𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤𝑛𝑠 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑐𝑒𝑠𝑠. 𝑃𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑐𝑎𝑛 𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑖𝑙𝑦 𝑠𝑒𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑖𝑠 ℎ𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑤𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑀𝑛𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑎𝑔𝑤𝑎 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝐶ℎ𝑎𝑚𝑖𝑠𝑎, 𝑏𝑢𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑑𝑜𝑛'𝑡 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑖𝑡 𝑖𝑠. 𝐼𝑡'𝑠 𝑎 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤𝑛 𝑢𝑛𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤𝑛. 𝑀𝑎𝑤𝑎𝑟𝑖𝑟𝑒, 𝑎 𝑣𝑜𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑐𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐 𝑜𝑓 𝑀𝑛𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑎𝑔𝑤𝑎'𝑠 2030 𝐴𝑔𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑎, 𝑐𝑙𝑎𝑠ℎ𝑒𝑑 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑀𝑢𝑡𝑒𝑏𝑢𝑘𝑎 𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑇𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑎𝑖 𝐵𝑖𝑡𝑖'𝑠 𝑟𝑜𝑙𝑒 𝑎𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑛𝑒𝑤 𝑓𝑎𝑐𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑜𝑝𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝐶𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑡𝑢𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝐷𝑒𝑓𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝐹𝑜𝑟𝑢𝑚 𝑡𝑜 𝑀𝑛𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑎𝑔𝑤𝑎'𝑠 𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑚 𝑒𝑥𝑡𝑒𝑛𝑠𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝐶ℎ𝑎𝑚𝑖𝑠𝑎'𝑠 𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑥𝑝𝑙𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑏𝑙𝑒 ℎ𝑖𝑏𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑑𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑜𝑓 𝑑𝑢𝑡𝑦, 𝑎𝑠 𝑤𝑒𝑙𝑙 𝑎𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑙𝑒𝑔𝑎𝑙 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑔𝑖𝑒𝑠 𝑟𝑒𝑞𝑢𝑖𝑟𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑠𝑡𝑜𝑝 𝑡ℎ𝑒 "𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑡𝑢𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑙 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑝" 𝑢𝑛𝑑𝑒𝑟𝑤𝑎𝑦. 𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑝𝑢𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑐 𝑠𝑝𝑎𝑡, 𝑚𝑎𝑟𝑘𝑒𝑑 𝑏𝑦 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑎𝑟𝑔𝑢𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑙 𝑗𝑎𝑏𝑠, 𝑖𝑠 𝑡𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔, 𝑑𝑟𝑎𝑤𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑖𝑛 𝑎 𝑚𝑎𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝑎𝑢𝑑𝑖𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑍𝑖𝑚𝑏𝑎𝑏𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑓𝑟𝑢𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑏𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑦'𝑠 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑐𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑖𝑠, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑛𝑜 𝑒𝑛𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑠𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡. 𝑇ℎ𝑖𝑠, 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑝𝑙𝑒𝑑 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐶ℎ𝑖𝑒𝑓 𝐹𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑢𝑛𝑒 𝐶ℎ𝑎𝑟𝑢𝑚𝑏𝑖𝑟𝑎'𝑠 𝐾𝑎𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑎 𝑒𝑡ℎ𝑛𝑖𝑐 ℎ𝑒𝑔𝑒𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑦 𝑝𝑙𝑜𝑡 𝑒𝑥𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑒𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ 𝑎𝑛 𝑎𝑢𝑑𝑖𝑜 𝑖𝑛 𝑀𝑎𝑟𝑐ℎ 2023, 𝑑𝑒𝑠𝑐𝑟𝑖𝑏𝑒𝑑 𝑏𝑦 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒 𝑐𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑠 𝑎𝑠 𝑐𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑎 "𝐺𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑇𝑟𝑖𝑏𝑎𝑙 𝑈𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑦", 𝑓𝑢𝑟𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑒𝑥𝑝𝑙𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 ℎ𝑖𝑑𝑑𝑒𝑛 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑏𝑟𝑜𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑤𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑀𝑛𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑎𝑔𝑤𝑎 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝐶ℎ𝑎𝑚𝑖𝑠𝑎, 𝑎𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑎𝑛𝑡 𝑐𝑙𝑎𝑖𝑚𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑝𝑎𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑔𝑒, 𝑎𝑏𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑢𝑠𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑝𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑟 𝑏𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒, 𝑐𝑜𝑟𝑟𝑢𝑝𝑡 𝑝𝑎𝑦𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑦𝑎𝑙; 𝑤𝑒𝑖𝑟𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑠 𝑐𝑢𝑟𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑙𝑦 ℎ𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑖𝑛 𝑙𝑜𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑠 𝑏𝑒ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑐𝑒𝑛𝑒𝑠. This audio (short version) is a confirmed record of a conversation between main opposition leader Nelson Chamisa, then leading the now defunct MDC Alliance, and First Lady Auxillia Mnangagwa's aide Ben Muneri. Chamisa was exploring ways to negotiate with the First Lady and President Emmerson Mnangagwa to become a Prime Minister in the current Zanu PF government in the aftermath of the hotly disputed 2018 presidential poll amid brutal post-election violence and killings on August 1.

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“Do not give into this carbon footprint thing. It is all just control.” On his podcast today with Senator Bernie Sanders, Joe Rogan criticized the “climate crisis” narrative, carbon taxes, 15 minute cities, and the lack of criticism on China’s unchecked emissions, suggesting that they are tools being used to get money and exert control over people. Here’s some of the dialogue: 𝐒𝐀𝐍𝐃𝐄𝐑𝐒: “[𝐼] 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑘 𝑐𝑙𝑖𝑚𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑐ℎ𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑎 ℎ𝑜𝑎𝑥—𝑖𝑡 𝑎𝑖𝑛’𝑡 𝑎 ℎ𝑜𝑎𝑥. 𝐼 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑘 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑙𝑎𝑠𝑡 𝑡𝑒𝑛 𝑦𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑠 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑤𝑎𝑟𝑚𝑒𝑠𝑡 𝑜𝑛 𝑟𝑒𝑐𝑜𝑟𝑑...” 𝐑𝐎𝐆𝐀𝐍: “𝐼 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑘 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑙𝑖𝑚𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑐ℎ𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑒 𝑖𝑠𝑠𝑢𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑝𝑙𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑. 𝐷𝑖𝑑 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑠𝑒𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑊𝑎𝑠ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑡𝑜𝑛 𝑃𝑜𝑠𝑡 𝑝𝑖𝑒𝑐𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑤𝑟𝑜𝑡𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑑𝑖𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑙𝑜𝑛𝑔-𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑚 𝑣𝑖𝑒𝑤? …𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑖𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐸𝑎𝑟𝑡ℎ’𝑠 𝑡𝑒𝑚𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑛𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑏𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑐… 𝑖𝑡’𝑠 𝑎𝑙𝑤𝑎𝑦𝑠 𝑏𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑢𝑝 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑑𝑜𝑤𝑛… 𝐸𝑠𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦, 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑓𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑤𝑒’𝑟𝑒 𝑖𝑛 𝑎 𝑐𝑜𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑜𝑑… (Rogan is speaking about the last 485 million years, not on recent trends since, say, 1850).” 𝐒𝐀𝐍𝐃𝐄𝐑𝐒: “𝑊𝑒𝑙𝑙, 𝐼’𝑚 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑠𝑢𝑟𝑒. 𝐼 𝑑𝑖𝑑𝑛’𝑡 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑎𝑟𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑙𝑒. 𝐵𝑢𝑡, 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤, 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑐𝑖𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑠 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒—𝐼 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑘 𝐼 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤.” 𝐑𝐎𝐆𝐀𝐍: “𝐵𝑢𝑡, 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒’𝑠 𝑎 𝑙𝑜𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑒𝑦 𝑖𝑛𝑣𝑜𝑙𝑣𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡𝑜𝑜, 𝐵𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑖𝑒. 𝑇ℎ𝑎𝑡’𝑠 𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑏𝑙𝑒𝑚. 𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒’𝑠 𝑎 𝑙𝑜𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑒𝑦 𝑖𝑛𝑣𝑜𝑙𝑣𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑤ℎ𝑜𝑙𝑒 𝑐𝑙𝑖𝑚𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑐ℎ𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑒 𝑒𝑚𝑒𝑟𝑔𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑦 𝑖𝑠𝑠𝑢𝑒. 𝐴𝑛𝑑, 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒’𝑠 𝑎 𝑙𝑜𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑙... 𝑁𝑜𝑡 𝑜𝑛𝑙𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑤𝑒’𝑟𝑒 𝑗𝑢𝑠𝑡 𝑡𝑎𝑙𝑘𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑝𝑟𝑖𝑚𝑎𝑟𝑖𝑙𝑦 𝑐𝑎𝑟𝑏𝑜𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑐𝑎𝑟𝑏𝑜𝑛 𝑓𝑜𝑜𝑡𝑝𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑡, 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑤𝑒 𝑔𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 𝑑𝑜 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝐶ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑎?” 𝐒𝐀𝐍𝐃𝐄𝐑𝐒: “𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑚𝑎𝑗𝑜𝑟 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑙𝑢𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑟𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑛𝑜𝑤 𝑖𝑛 𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑚𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑐𝑎𝑟𝑏𝑜𝑛. 𝑊𝑒’𝑟𝑒 𝑛𝑢𝑚𝑏𝑒𝑟 𝑡𝑤𝑜; 𝑤𝑒 𝑢𝑠𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑏𝑒 𝑜𝑛𝑒, 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑛𝑢𝑚𝑏𝑒𝑟 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑟𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑛𝑜𝑤… 𝐿𝑜𝑜𝑘, 𝑖𝑡’𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑎𝑛 𝐴𝑚𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑛 𝑖𝑠𝑠𝑢𝑒, 𝑖𝑡 𝑖𝑠 𝑎 𝑔𝑙𝑜𝑏𝑎𝑙 𝑖𝑠𝑠𝑢𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝐼 𝑐𝑎𝑛 𝑡𝑒𝑙𝑙 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑖𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑤𝑒 𝑎𝑟𝑒, 𝑖𝑛 𝑚𝑦 𝑣𝑖𝑒𝑤, 𝑔𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 𝑠𝑒𝑒 𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑒 𝑒𝑥𝑡𝑟𝑒𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏𝑎𝑛𝑐𝑒𝑠 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑦𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑠…” 𝐑𝐎𝐆𝐀𝐍: “[𝑇]ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑏𝑙𝑒𝑚 𝑖𝑠 𝑔𝑖𝑣𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑖𝑛 𝑝𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑟… 𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑙 𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑐𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑧𝑒𝑛𝑠. 𝑇ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑖𝑠 𝑎 𝑣𝑒ℎ𝑖𝑐𝑙𝑒 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡... ‘𝐶𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑖𝑡 𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑜𝑤𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑠𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑐𝑘𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑐𝑟𝑒𝑒𝑝𝑠—𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑙𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑙𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑑𝑜 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑠𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑛𝑑 ℎ𝑜𝑤 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑠𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑑 𝑦𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑒𝑦—𝑡𝑜 𝑙𝑜𝑜𝑘 𝑎𝑡 [your] 𝑐𝑎𝑟𝑏𝑜𝑛 𝑓𝑜𝑜𝑡𝑝𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑡, 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑐𝑎𝑛 𝑙𝑜𝑜𝑘 𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑎𝑚𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑡 [you] 𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑣𝑒𝑙, 𝑝𝑢𝑡 𝑎 𝑐𝑎𝑟𝑏𝑜𝑛 𝑡𝑎𝑥 𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑠𝑒 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒… 𝑇ℎ𝑎𝑡’𝑠 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑏𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑚𝑒 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑐𝑙𝑖𝑚𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑐ℎ𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑒 𝑒𝑚𝑒𝑟𝑔𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑦…” This was a thoughtful conversation and I [mostly] agree with Rogan on this issue. I listened to the full interview, and I have to say, whether you like or agree with Bernie or not (and I don’t on a lot), he is smart and is one of the more intelligent figures on the political left. Link to full interview below 🎙️👇 🔗

“Do not give into this carbon footprint thing. It is all just control.” On his podcast today with Senator Bernie Sanders, Joe Rogan criticized the “climate crisis” narrative, carbon taxes, 15 minute cities, and the lack of criticism on China’s unchecked emissions, suggesting that they are tools being used to get money and exert control over people. Here’s some of the dialogue: 𝐒𝐀𝐍𝐃𝐄𝐑𝐒: “[𝐼] 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑘 𝑐𝑙𝑖𝑚𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑐ℎ𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑎 ℎ𝑜𝑎𝑥—𝑖𝑡 𝑎𝑖𝑛’𝑡 𝑎 ℎ𝑜𝑎𝑥. 𝐼 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑘 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑙𝑎𝑠𝑡 𝑡𝑒𝑛 𝑦𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑠 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑤𝑎𝑟𝑚𝑒𝑠𝑡 𝑜𝑛 𝑟𝑒𝑐𝑜𝑟𝑑...” 𝐑𝐎𝐆𝐀𝐍: “𝐼 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑘 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑙𝑖𝑚𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑐ℎ𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑒 𝑖𝑠𝑠𝑢𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑝𝑙𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑. 𝐷𝑖𝑑 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑠𝑒𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑊𝑎𝑠ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑡𝑜𝑛 𝑃𝑜𝑠𝑡 𝑝𝑖𝑒𝑐𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑤𝑟𝑜𝑡𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑑𝑖𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑙𝑜𝑛𝑔-𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑚 𝑣𝑖𝑒𝑤? …𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑖𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐸𝑎𝑟𝑡ℎ’𝑠 𝑡𝑒𝑚𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑛𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑏𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑐… 𝑖𝑡’𝑠 𝑎𝑙𝑤𝑎𝑦𝑠 𝑏𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑢𝑝 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑑𝑜𝑤𝑛… 𝐸𝑠𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦, 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑓𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑤𝑒’𝑟𝑒 𝑖𝑛 𝑎 𝑐𝑜𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑜𝑑… (Rogan is speaking about the last 485 million years, not on recent trends since, say, 1850).” 𝐒𝐀𝐍𝐃𝐄𝐑𝐒: “𝑊𝑒𝑙𝑙, 𝐼’𝑚 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑠𝑢𝑟𝑒. 𝐼 𝑑𝑖𝑑𝑛’𝑡 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑎𝑟𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑙𝑒. 𝐵𝑢𝑡, 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤, 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑐𝑖𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑠 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒—𝐼 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑘 𝐼 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤.” 𝐑𝐎𝐆𝐀𝐍: “𝐵𝑢𝑡, 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒’𝑠 𝑎 𝑙𝑜𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑒𝑦 𝑖𝑛𝑣𝑜𝑙𝑣𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡𝑜𝑜, 𝐵𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑖𝑒. 𝑇ℎ𝑎𝑡’𝑠 𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑏𝑙𝑒𝑚. 𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒’𝑠 𝑎 𝑙𝑜𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑒𝑦 𝑖𝑛𝑣𝑜𝑙𝑣𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑤ℎ𝑜𝑙𝑒 𝑐𝑙𝑖𝑚𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑐ℎ𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑒 𝑒𝑚𝑒𝑟𝑔𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑦 𝑖𝑠𝑠𝑢𝑒. 𝐴𝑛𝑑, 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒’𝑠 𝑎 𝑙𝑜𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑙... 𝑁𝑜𝑡 𝑜𝑛𝑙𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑤𝑒’𝑟𝑒 𝑗𝑢𝑠𝑡 𝑡𝑎𝑙𝑘𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑝𝑟𝑖𝑚𝑎𝑟𝑖𝑙𝑦 𝑐𝑎𝑟𝑏𝑜𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑐𝑎𝑟𝑏𝑜𝑛 𝑓𝑜𝑜𝑡𝑝𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑡, 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑤𝑒 𝑔𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 𝑑𝑜 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝐶ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑎?” 𝐒𝐀𝐍𝐃𝐄𝐑𝐒: “𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑚𝑎𝑗𝑜𝑟 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑙𝑢𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑟𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑛𝑜𝑤 𝑖𝑛 𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑚𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑐𝑎𝑟𝑏𝑜𝑛. 𝑊𝑒’𝑟𝑒 𝑛𝑢𝑚𝑏𝑒𝑟 𝑡𝑤𝑜; 𝑤𝑒 𝑢𝑠𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑏𝑒 𝑜𝑛𝑒, 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑛𝑢𝑚𝑏𝑒𝑟 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑟𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑛𝑜𝑤… 𝐿𝑜𝑜𝑘, 𝑖𝑡’𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑎𝑛 𝐴𝑚𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑛 𝑖𝑠𝑠𝑢𝑒, 𝑖𝑡 𝑖𝑠 𝑎 𝑔𝑙𝑜𝑏𝑎𝑙 𝑖𝑠𝑠𝑢𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝐼 𝑐𝑎𝑛 𝑡𝑒𝑙𝑙 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑖𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑤𝑒 𝑎𝑟𝑒, 𝑖𝑛 𝑚𝑦 𝑣𝑖𝑒𝑤, 𝑔𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 𝑠𝑒𝑒 𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑒 𝑒𝑥𝑡𝑟𝑒𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏𝑎𝑛𝑐𝑒𝑠 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑦𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑠…” 𝐑𝐎𝐆𝐀𝐍: “[𝑇]ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑏𝑙𝑒𝑚 𝑖𝑠 𝑔𝑖𝑣𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑖𝑛 𝑝𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑟… 𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑙 𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑐𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑧𝑒𝑛𝑠. 𝑇ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑖𝑠 𝑎 𝑣𝑒ℎ𝑖𝑐𝑙𝑒 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡... ‘𝐶𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑖𝑡 𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑜𝑤𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑠𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑐𝑘𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑐𝑟𝑒𝑒𝑝𝑠—𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑙𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑙𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑑𝑜 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑠𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑛𝑑 ℎ𝑜𝑤 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑠𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑑 𝑦𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑒𝑦—𝑡𝑜 𝑙𝑜𝑜𝑘 𝑎𝑡 [your] 𝑐𝑎𝑟𝑏𝑜𝑛 𝑓𝑜𝑜𝑡𝑝𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑡, 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑐𝑎𝑛 𝑙𝑜𝑜𝑘 𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑎𝑚𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑡 [you] 𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑣𝑒𝑙, 𝑝𝑢𝑡 𝑎 𝑐𝑎𝑟𝑏𝑜𝑛 𝑡𝑎𝑥 𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑠𝑒 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒… 𝑇ℎ𝑎𝑡’𝑠 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑏𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑚𝑒 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑐𝑙𝑖𝑚𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑐ℎ𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑒 𝑒𝑚𝑒𝑟𝑔𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑦…” This was a thoughtful conversation and I [mostly] agree with Rogan on this issue. I listened to the full interview, and I have to say, whether you like or agree with Bernie or not (and I don’t on a lot), he is smart and is one of the more intelligent figures on the political left. Link to full interview below 🎙️👇 🔗

Chris Martz

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