Stewart Alsop - Host of Crazy Wisdom Radio Show

I had such a fun time where instead of being interviewing the guest, Brian Apuja interviewed me and the subject was mind bending: how to teach robots how to partner dance? 0:02 — Intro to the idea of being interviewed on the podcast. 1:41 — AI embodiment: the idea of robots interacting physically with the world. 2:23 — Ballroom dance as inspiration for understanding embodied intelligence. 4:49 — Cost of dance classes in Brazil and Argentina. 5:54 — Concept of a partner dancing robot (teaching vs. partnering). 7:59 — Free will, pre-programmed movement, and transhumanist implications. 9:50 — Proper hip movement mechanics in Latin dances. 11:04 — Eye-level balance and the role of visual systems in movement. 13:08 — Importance of open eyes for dance improvisation and balance. 14:04 — Learning improvisation through socials and dancing with strangers. 15:21 — Cultural differences in dance hours (Buenos Aires vs. Las Vegas). 17:43 — Challenges for robots to generate fluid, humanlike movement. 19:46 — Contrast between robotic joints and human muscle-based motion. 23:58 — Fascia and Tom Myers’ “Anatomy Trains” in relation to movement. 26:10 — Yin/yang roles in partner dance and subtle lead-follow dynamics. 26:53 — Haptic feedback requirements for robotic partner dancing. 30:44 — Red-teaming as adversarial training for both LLMs and robots. 34:51 — Proposal of the “Ahuja Test” — a Turing Test for movement. 36:52 — Discovery of existing research in robot partner dance. 38:24 — Embodiment in AI and philosophical views on consciousness. 42:05 — Sensuality vs. sexuality in dance as a nonverbal social mode. 44:04 — Speculation on founding a lab, company, or foundation. 47:28 — Difficulty of maintaining vision in rapidly changing tech landscapes. 48:08 — Discussion of merging with AI as a survival path. 50:12 — Naming LLCs and the anecdote of “Galactosa.” 52:32 — Commentary on nonprofit structures, narrative manipulation, and Silicon Valley dynamics.