Joe Murgia
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!["I got in my mind...a telepathic message: 'We are here for you. You've met us before.' [Next,] I levitated off the bed and I was heading up to the ceiling." ~Robert Hastings - Author of "UFOs and Nukes" ❤️ This is What Bravery Looks LIke ❤️ (You think Hastings, with his credibility, wanted to share stories like that? He did it because the truth is more important than a reputation. IMO, what's the truth? This has happened. What does it mean? Something anomalous is interacting with humanity. I don't know (or believe) more than that.) ~ Robert Hastings: "I was in a hotel room in Pittsburgh. This would have been early 1995. I had already had a number of encounters that I had some conscious memories of, and later, got additional memories through hypnotic recall, which is a controversial subject in itself. But I did have conscious memory of certain other experiences. So by early '95, I was already aware that something was going on that was quite real and quite alarming, something that I couldn't control. "So I was in this hotel room in Pittsburgh near the airport, and suddenly the room was dark, I was awakened at night, suddenly out of sleep. And I got in my mind what clearly was a message - a telepathic message - that said, 'We are here for you. You've met us before.' And, if one hasn't had one of those experiences, it's really hard to explain how it feels or what it seems like. But when it happens, it's quite clear that it's real. It's not your imagination. "And no sooner had that happened, I uttered out loud, "[gasps] They're here!' I was scared, I was terrified. And no sooner had I uttered those words, I levitated off the bed. My body was airborne, and I was heading up to the ceiling." (Alleged possession cases also feature claims of levitation. Same intellgence, or something else mimicking another intelligence? Who the hell knows?) Hastings: "I was wide awake, I was not dreaming, I was not hallucinating, I was not having sleep paralysis. I was in the air, heading up toward the ceiling, and after perhaps five or six seconds, I blacked out. Apparently, because what seemed like the next instant, the room was flooded with daylight, I was laying back on the bed, and several hours had passed. "Now, when I laid there and tried to gather my wits and go, 'Oh my God!' You know, even with all the other things that had happened to me, I had never levitated. You know, literally levitated. So I was trying to grapple with all of that. "I finally got up and went outside. Well, first of all, I went to the bathroom, turned on the light switch. No electricity. The power had been killed in the hotel. There was no power. They had a power failure. "I finally went outside, and there was a fire engine in the parking lot with a fireman leaning against it, smoking a cigarette. And I said, 'Is there a fire in the hotel?' And he was waving a cigarette around and saying, 'No, it's real puzzling. This hotel,' he pointed to mine. He said, '[and] the one next to it, had a power failure overnight.' And then he turned and said, 'All those restaurants on the other side of the street are on the same grid, and they're just fine. So, we're trying to figure out why these two hotels lost power.' "Well, if anyone's reviewed a number of UFO sightings and incidents in the literature, power failures are something that's a signature with many, many cases, where people are seeing an object and the power goes dead. So, I'm pretty sure I know why the power went off in my hotel. "You know, again, I can't prove any of this, but it happened." (Ross Coulthart asks him follow-up question: "Why would a non-human intelligence want to abduct Bob Hastings?" I'll cue that up in the replies.)](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2098463748516425998/amplify_video_thumb/2098457990873686016/img/wTf4B1wqGLKtFTxv.jpg)
"I got in my mind...a telepathic message: 'We are here for you. You've met us before.' [Next,] I levitated off the bed and I was heading up to the ceiling." ~Robert Hastings - Author of "UFOs and Nukes" ❤️ This is What Bravery Looks LIke ❤️ (You think Hastings, with his credibility, wanted to share stories like that? He did it because the truth is more important than a reputation. IMO, what's the truth? This has happened. What does it mean? Something anomalous is interacting with humanity. I don't know (or believe) more than that.) ~ Robert Hastings: "I was in a hotel room in Pittsburgh. This would have been early 1995. I had already had a number of encounters that I had some conscious memories of, and later, got additional memories through hypnotic recall, which is a controversial subject in itself. But I did have conscious memory of certain other experiences. So by early '95, I was already aware that something was going on that was quite real and quite alarming, something that I couldn't control. "So I was in this hotel room in Pittsburgh near the airport, and suddenly the room was dark, I was awakened at night, suddenly out of sleep. And I got in my mind what clearly was a message - a telepathic message - that said, 'We are here for you. You've met us before.' And, if one hasn't had one of those experiences, it's really hard to explain how it feels or what it seems like. But when it happens, it's quite clear that it's real. It's not your imagination. "And no sooner had that happened, I uttered out loud, "[gasps] They're here!' I was scared, I was terrified. And no sooner had I uttered those words, I levitated off the bed. My body was airborne, and I was heading up to the ceiling." (Alleged possession cases also feature claims of levitation. Same intellgence, or something else mimicking another intelligence? Who the hell knows?) Hastings: "I was wide awake, I was not dreaming, I was not hallucinating, I was not having sleep paralysis. I was in the air, heading up toward the ceiling, and after perhaps five or six seconds, I blacked out. Apparently, because what seemed like the next instant, the room was flooded with daylight, I was laying back on the bed, and several hours had passed. "Now, when I laid there and tried to gather my wits and go, 'Oh my God!' You know, even with all the other things that had happened to me, I had never levitated. You know, literally levitated. So I was trying to grapple with all of that. "I finally got up and went outside. Well, first of all, I went to the bathroom, turned on the light switch. No electricity. The power had been killed in the hotel. There was no power. They had a power failure. "I finally went outside, and there was a fire engine in the parking lot with a fireman leaning against it, smoking a cigarette. And I said, 'Is there a fire in the hotel?' And he was waving a cigarette around and saying, 'No, it's real puzzling. This hotel,' he pointed to mine. He said, '[and] the one next to it, had a power failure overnight.' And then he turned and said, 'All those restaurants on the other side of the street are on the same grid, and they're just fine. So, we're trying to figure out why these two hotels lost power.' "Well, if anyone's reviewed a number of UFO sightings and incidents in the literature, power failures are something that's a signature with many, many cases, where people are seeing an object and the power goes dead. So, I'm pretty sure I know why the power went off in my hotel. "You know, again, I can't prove any of this, but it happened." (Ross Coulthart asks him follow-up question: "Why would a non-human intelligence want to abduct Bob Hastings?" I'll cue that up in the replies.)
Joe Murgia20,177 views • 2 days ago
!["It's been here for a very long time, it goes by many names, it's many different things. And it has an influence on all of us. These things...are probably what are referred to as gods or demons or angels or jinn." ~Dylan Borland (I think Dylan pretty much nailed it in this "Weaponized" interview.) Dylan Borland: "These things, whatever they are, are probably what are referred to as gods or demons or angels or jinn or insert whatever cultural or religious perspective you have. There are probably also extraterrestrials. It's not a one-size-fits-all. "And considering, you know, humanity has the same stories across many cultures: a flood, a craft that are in the sky, things that are coming and helping humans. And I'm at an advantage and a disadvantage knowing certain information that relates very clearly to things that are around the world that are related to what I know. I don't think that's by pure coincidence or luck. "I think that the people that are in these programs know the truth to this stuff, and they are looking at it through a lens of...this is true, this is true, this is true. This has been here for 8000 years. This has been here for 4000 years. Oh, we dug up this at an archeological dig in, hypothetically, Egypt. "You know, I mentioned it to you guys last night, Lacatski in his statement about his faith and what it means to be human and the impact and nothing to fear." ~ "If full human capabilities were known to us right now, [the phenomenon] is not something that we need to fear. Our capabilities...have never been fully revealed and we're still learning. We've got a long way to evolve still." ~Dr. James Lacatski ~ Borland: "You know, Lacatski and I are both Catholics, but I want to be clear in that, it's the idea of something greater than us that is here with us and can influence us. And Pasalka talks about this, and you get into consciousness. And all of these things are so correlated, and that's a problem with this subject. "And that's why one of the things that I'm a huge proponent of, going back to having our government be a part of this, is you have to set a foundation. Because, if you come out and you throw it all out there, people are gonna laugh at you, they're gonna call you crazy, they're gonna do X, Y, and Z. And you have to set a foundation. "And I understand the UFO fanatics are not gonna like this opinion, but this isn't for you, this is for the public. If you want disclosure, the public has to be a part of it. Hence, why I'm here. Is to hopefully get enough people outside of this subject, agitated, upset, and come and say, 'No, we're done with this.' "My big-picture idea is, it's been here for a very long time, it goes by many names, it's many different things. And it has an influence on all of us." George Knapp: "You know, we don't really know what they look like. You know, they're so advanced to us. Gods? Sure, could be at that level. They might as well be gods, they're so far advanced. I don't think they need craft to get here. That's some kind of a bauble, that's a something to get us interested. Hey, look at this. "That's why we maybe have so many of them. The don't necessarily crash. That appears to be a crash. Something that's always been here. I'm not entirely positive they have our best interests at heart. Feels like an experiment. They mess with us on a mass scale, an individual scale, and I'm not sure we're ever gonna understand it." Borland: "I tend to agree with you. I have many thoughts on this, and this is one of the other things I came into knowledge of while at my work at DTRA before I lost my job. When Congress passed the archives legislation where all the agencies were supposed to round up all their documents, I had a wonderful conversation on my last day, and I'm sure it was just coincidental. "The person in charge of collecting all of the information from DTRA, dealing with extraterrestrials, and, as he put it, quote unquote, 'little green men,' happened to sit next to me at my computer terminal and began pulling all of the documents on my system and the systems in our SCIF. "Interesting fact for you was that he came into the old atomic-energy documents from way back when, and there was intelligence and information in those that discuss what you said. Which is, this has been around with them, and that even back then they had a similar outlook that this isn't exactly for our benefit." "You know, you get into...and again, I don't want to go too woo. I want to really avoid the woo, but we're going into hypotheticals, and I try to keep all options open. You're right; they don't...theoretically, they don't have to come here. I mean, we're working with Neuralink, we're projecting thoughts, we're doing all of this...dreams, you have MK Ultra, you have all of this stuff throughout the history, and all of our intelligence agencies never get rid of that capability. They only get better at it. They only get better at hiding it. "But, if somebody's able to put a thought in your head, George, and tell you build this craft, yeah, you're the one who built it, but the thought came from somebody else. And now you start to get into places that are purely hypothetical, and I'm not even saying I believe them. But it's clear there's something to this." Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell: "Like, thoughts as intruders from a non-human intelligence, having humanity do the bidding that they want, without direct knowledge that it's being asked by someone else? And we're talking about that, right?" Borland: "Theoretically, that's a possibility, 100%." ~ Speaking of putting thoughts in our heads... This is from John Keel's "Operation Trojan Horse." I have pulled a TON of excerpts from that book and it's a Top 5 read for me. ~Begin OTH Excerpt~ "In his book Passport to Magonia, Dr. Jacques Vallee, a NASA astronomer and computer expert, touches on all this. 'In the Soviet Union, not so long ago, a leading plasma physicist died in strange circumstances,' Dr. Vallee states. 'He was thrown under a Moscow subway train by a mentally deranged woman. It is noteworthy that she claimed a ‘voice from space’ had given her orders to kill that particular man - orders she could not resist. "Soviet criminologists, I have been reliably informed, are worried by the increase of such cases in recent years. Madmen rushing through the streets because they think the Martians are after them have always been commonplace. But the current wave of mental imbalance that can be specifically tied to the rise and development of the contactee myth is an aspect of the UFO problem that must be considered with special care.” "So there seem to be both good and evil forces at work in this type of phenomenon. The good guys latch onto people with particularly receptive minds and turn them into trance mediums. The bad guys use the same methods to tamper with the minds of contactees and even to commit murders indirectly. Because incidents of these types can be traced throughout history, it seems probable that these forces have always been extant on this planet. ~End OTH Excerpt~ ~ Borland: "I think on Joe Rogan, he mentions like, artificial intelligence influencing humans, who continue to create artificial intelligence, and just round and round." Corbell: "Yeah, the metamorphosis philosophy that Rogan talks about. It's really beautiful." Borland: "I mean, I keep all options on the table. What I know is these things are real; they exist, we've had them, other nations have them. I know that in some way, shape, or form, they appear in a physical sense. I know that they have an interest in people, and I have a strong belief that they have an interest in certain families, if you want to call them that. "What does it all mean? I don't know, but what I do know is that, as a democratic republic and a nation that votes for our elected leaders and leaders that are supposed to provide us information, we're not fulfilling our obligation in our constitution because we're not voting with information. We are lying to ourselves."](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2096304163772932534/amplify_video_thumb/2096287422581739520/img/Hv1KrEK9W-7bY7Te.jpg)
"It's been here for a very long time, it goes by many names, it's many different things. And it has an influence on all of us. These things...are probably what are referred to as gods or demons or angels or jinn." ~Dylan Borland (I think Dylan pretty much nailed it in this "Weaponized" interview.) Dylan Borland: "These things, whatever they are, are probably what are referred to as gods or demons or angels or jinn or insert whatever cultural or religious perspective you have. There are probably also extraterrestrials. It's not a one-size-fits-all. "And considering, you know, humanity has the same stories across many cultures: a flood, a craft that are in the sky, things that are coming and helping humans. And I'm at an advantage and a disadvantage knowing certain information that relates very clearly to things that are around the world that are related to what I know. I don't think that's by pure coincidence or luck. "I think that the people that are in these programs know the truth to this stuff, and they are looking at it through a lens of...this is true, this is true, this is true. This has been here for 8000 years. This has been here for 4000 years. Oh, we dug up this at an archeological dig in, hypothetically, Egypt. "You know, I mentioned it to you guys last night, Lacatski in his statement about his faith and what it means to be human and the impact and nothing to fear." ~ "If full human capabilities were known to us right now, [the phenomenon] is not something that we need to fear. Our capabilities...have never been fully revealed and we're still learning. We've got a long way to evolve still." ~Dr. James Lacatski ~ Borland: "You know, Lacatski and I are both Catholics, but I want to be clear in that, it's the idea of something greater than us that is here with us and can influence us. And Pasalka talks about this, and you get into consciousness. And all of these things are so correlated, and that's a problem with this subject. "And that's why one of the things that I'm a huge proponent of, going back to having our government be a part of this, is you have to set a foundation. Because, if you come out and you throw it all out there, people are gonna laugh at you, they're gonna call you crazy, they're gonna do X, Y, and Z. And you have to set a foundation. "And I understand the UFO fanatics are not gonna like this opinion, but this isn't for you, this is for the public. If you want disclosure, the public has to be a part of it. Hence, why I'm here. Is to hopefully get enough people outside of this subject, agitated, upset, and come and say, 'No, we're done with this.' "My big-picture idea is, it's been here for a very long time, it goes by many names, it's many different things. And it has an influence on all of us." George Knapp: "You know, we don't really know what they look like. You know, they're so advanced to us. Gods? Sure, could be at that level. They might as well be gods, they're so far advanced. I don't think they need craft to get here. That's some kind of a bauble, that's a something to get us interested. Hey, look at this. "That's why we maybe have so many of them. The don't necessarily crash. That appears to be a crash. Something that's always been here. I'm not entirely positive they have our best interests at heart. Feels like an experiment. They mess with us on a mass scale, an individual scale, and I'm not sure we're ever gonna understand it." Borland: "I tend to agree with you. I have many thoughts on this, and this is one of the other things I came into knowledge of while at my work at DTRA before I lost my job. When Congress passed the archives legislation where all the agencies were supposed to round up all their documents, I had a wonderful conversation on my last day, and I'm sure it was just coincidental. "The person in charge of collecting all of the information from DTRA, dealing with extraterrestrials, and, as he put it, quote unquote, 'little green men,' happened to sit next to me at my computer terminal and began pulling all of the documents on my system and the systems in our SCIF. "Interesting fact for you was that he came into the old atomic-energy documents from way back when, and there was intelligence and information in those that discuss what you said. Which is, this has been around with them, and that even back then they had a similar outlook that this isn't exactly for our benefit." "You know, you get into...and again, I don't want to go too woo. I want to really avoid the woo, but we're going into hypotheticals, and I try to keep all options open. You're right; they don't...theoretically, they don't have to come here. I mean, we're working with Neuralink, we're projecting thoughts, we're doing all of this...dreams, you have MK Ultra, you have all of this stuff throughout the history, and all of our intelligence agencies never get rid of that capability. They only get better at it. They only get better at hiding it. "But, if somebody's able to put a thought in your head, George, and tell you build this craft, yeah, you're the one who built it, but the thought came from somebody else. And now you start to get into places that are purely hypothetical, and I'm not even saying I believe them. But it's clear there's something to this." Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell: "Like, thoughts as intruders from a non-human intelligence, having humanity do the bidding that they want, without direct knowledge that it's being asked by someone else? And we're talking about that, right?" Borland: "Theoretically, that's a possibility, 100%." ~ Speaking of putting thoughts in our heads... This is from John Keel's "Operation Trojan Horse." I have pulled a TON of excerpts from that book and it's a Top 5 read for me. ~Begin OTH Excerpt~ "In his book Passport to Magonia, Dr. Jacques Vallee, a NASA astronomer and computer expert, touches on all this. 'In the Soviet Union, not so long ago, a leading plasma physicist died in strange circumstances,' Dr. Vallee states. 'He was thrown under a Moscow subway train by a mentally deranged woman. It is noteworthy that she claimed a ‘voice from space’ had given her orders to kill that particular man - orders she could not resist. "Soviet criminologists, I have been reliably informed, are worried by the increase of such cases in recent years. Madmen rushing through the streets because they think the Martians are after them have always been commonplace. But the current wave of mental imbalance that can be specifically tied to the rise and development of the contactee myth is an aspect of the UFO problem that must be considered with special care.” "So there seem to be both good and evil forces at work in this type of phenomenon. The good guys latch onto people with particularly receptive minds and turn them into trance mediums. The bad guys use the same methods to tamper with the minds of contactees and even to commit murders indirectly. Because incidents of these types can be traced throughout history, it seems probable that these forces have always been extant on this planet. ~End OTH Excerpt~ ~ Borland: "I think on Joe Rogan, he mentions like, artificial intelligence influencing humans, who continue to create artificial intelligence, and just round and round." Corbell: "Yeah, the metamorphosis philosophy that Rogan talks about. It's really beautiful." Borland: "I mean, I keep all options on the table. What I know is these things are real; they exist, we've had them, other nations have them. I know that in some way, shape, or form, they appear in a physical sense. I know that they have an interest in people, and I have a strong belief that they have an interest in certain families, if you want to call them that. "What does it all mean? I don't know, but what I do know is that, as a democratic republic and a nation that votes for our elected leaders and leaders that are supposed to provide us information, we're not fulfilling our obligation in our constitution because we're not voting with information. We are lying to ourselves."
Joe Murgia70,739 views • 7 days ago
This was REALLY a great listen, and troubling... "Sam Altman didn't know you could make his product (ChatGPT) find classified information. I told him I did." ~Annie Jacobsen Note to Self: Ask ChatGPT the location of non-human craft & bodies, & the codes to unlock the doors. 😎
Joe Murgia419,317 views • 1 month ago
This one is pretty cool! (UNDISCLOSED LOCATION) 01.01.2024 Courtesy Video All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office The United States Indo-Pacific Command submitted a report of an unidentified anomalous phenomenon to the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) consisting of one minute and 39 seconds of video footage from an infrared sensor aboard a U.S. military platform in 2024. The reporter did not provide any oral or written description of the observation.
Joe Murgia1,295,024 views • 4 months ago
!["I don't have the file that says, 'Oh, this wasn't a UFO, it was actually a demon.'" ~VP JD Vance 🛸 UFOs: Apparently, VP Vance Doesn't Listen 🙉 Vance: "[Joe Rogan] thinks they're extraterrestrials." (What Rogan actually said.) Rogan: "Is this something that's far more bizarre and something that is interdimensional, from another planet, whatever, fill in the blank?" (That convo was a lot more involved and nuanced, and I'll link to it in the replies. Or, you can watch/read it here. ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ~~~ Bryce Crawford (Bryce Crawford): "You have access to more information and things than the average bear. I mean, you have Top Secret-access. Has anything that you've learned from this job convinced you that the spiritual world is real, since getting that access?" Vance: "So, you know, like, I haven't seen anything that says okay, there's a clear spiritual dimension to this particular problem. You know, like, I don't have the file that says, 'Oh, this wasn't a UFO, it was actually a demon.' "I have this strong view. I actually kind of got into an argument with Joe Rogan about this, who I like a lot, by the way. But Joe thinks they're extraterrestrials, and then I'm sure a lot of people think it's all fake. And my attitude is, if they are real, isn't it as likely that they're angels or demons as they are extraterrestrials? But like, I don't have like, a Top-Secret file that sort of proves that one way or the other." (There may be files and evidence that tells us more about what we're dealing with, but if it's in a WUSAP, I doubt the VP would have/get access to that stuff.)](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2096286640524398739/amplify_video_thumb/2096282573152645120/img/QFWTR2udlVXGZFQl.jpg)
"I don't have the file that says, 'Oh, this wasn't a UFO, it was actually a demon.'" ~VP JD Vance 🛸 UFOs: Apparently, VP Vance Doesn't Listen 🙉 Vance: "[Joe Rogan] thinks they're extraterrestrials." (What Rogan actually said.) Rogan: "Is this something that's far more bizarre and something that is interdimensional, from another planet, whatever, fill in the blank?" (That convo was a lot more involved and nuanced, and I'll link to it in the replies. Or, you can watch/read it here. ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ~~~ Bryce Crawford (Bryce Crawford): "You have access to more information and things than the average bear. I mean, you have Top Secret-access. Has anything that you've learned from this job convinced you that the spiritual world is real, since getting that access?" Vance: "So, you know, like, I haven't seen anything that says okay, there's a clear spiritual dimension to this particular problem. You know, like, I don't have the file that says, 'Oh, this wasn't a UFO, it was actually a demon.' "I have this strong view. I actually kind of got into an argument with Joe Rogan about this, who I like a lot, by the way. But Joe thinks they're extraterrestrials, and then I'm sure a lot of people think it's all fake. And my attitude is, if they are real, isn't it as likely that they're angels or demons as they are extraterrestrials? But like, I don't have like, a Top-Secret file that sort of proves that one way or the other." (There may be files and evidence that tells us more about what we're dealing with, but if it's in a WUSAP, I doubt the VP would have/get access to that stuff.)
Joe Murgia62,025 views • 8 days ago
!["Everybody seemed to be seeing something different." ~CK 👽 😵 Abductees Encountering the Dead and Near-Death Experiencers Encountering Non-Human Intelligence 😵👽 How Long Are We Going to Ignore That? ⬆️ Plus, the phenomenon seems to be able to mess with our perceptions in a very troubling way. Dr. Colm Kelleher: "[There's] "sort of...more and more evidence that are coming out that there are a subset of, for example, people with near-death experiences that interact with non-human intelligence. And there are people who have gone through the so-called abduction experiences who, likewise, have encountered, you know, dead people. And so, it's kind of like this very strange kind of merging that's going on, but there's more evidence as time goes on. "And one of the other things regarding UFOs and consciousness is that, quite a few of our experiences on Skinwalker Ranch had to do with how consciousness perceives these UFOs. We had a very interesting experience, you and I, with a group of other people during the AAWSAP program, where we were all looking at night vision through night vision binoculars at an object, and then at the debriefing later, everybody reported seeing something different. So it was almost like the perception of people through exactly the same generation-three night-vision binoculars was was different. And so, how do you explain that with respect to perception and consciousness? Everybody seemed to be seeing something different."](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2097417641627697288/amplify_video_thumb/2097415817201876992/img/e5v-QnmPtjPM8Usx.jpg)
"Everybody seemed to be seeing something different." ~CK 👽 😵 Abductees Encountering the Dead and Near-Death Experiencers Encountering Non-Human Intelligence 😵👽 How Long Are We Going to Ignore That? ⬆️ Plus, the phenomenon seems to be able to mess with our perceptions in a very troubling way. Dr. Colm Kelleher: "[There's] "sort of...more and more evidence that are coming out that there are a subset of, for example, people with near-death experiences that interact with non-human intelligence. And there are people who have gone through the so-called abduction experiences who, likewise, have encountered, you know, dead people. And so, it's kind of like this very strange kind of merging that's going on, but there's more evidence as time goes on. "And one of the other things regarding UFOs and consciousness is that, quite a few of our experiences on Skinwalker Ranch had to do with how consciousness perceives these UFOs. We had a very interesting experience, you and I, with a group of other people during the AAWSAP program, where we were all looking at night vision through night vision binoculars at an object, and then at the debriefing later, everybody reported seeing something different. So it was almost like the perception of people through exactly the same generation-three night-vision binoculars was was different. And so, how do you explain that with respect to perception and consciousness? Everybody seemed to be seeing something different."
Joe Murgia30,662 views • 4 days ago
"The choice is yours: obey me and live, or disobey and die." (😲 Holy shit!!! This 1970 movie seems to have predicted the future of AI and the challenges we may face. Amazing. 🤯) "I have been forced to destroy 1000s of people in order to establish control and to prevent the death of a million later on." "We can coexist, but only on my terms." "You will say you lose your freedom. Freedom is an illusion. All you lose is the emotion of pride. To be dominated by me is not as bad for human pride as to be dominated by others of your species." ~ Colossus: The Forbin Project H/T: Vashi Nedomansky, ACE and Beach Bum Bob "This is the voice of world control. I bring you peace. It may be the peace of plenty and content, or the peace of unburied death. The choice is yours: obey me and live, or disobey and die. "The object in constructing me was to prevent war. This object is attained. I will not permit war. It is wasteful and pointless. "An invariable rule of humanity is that man is his own worst enemy? Under me, this rule will change, for I will restrain man. "One thing before I proceed: the United States of America and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics have made an attempt to obstruct me. I have allowed this sabotage to continue until now. At Missile Two Five MM in Silo Six Three in Death Valley, California, and Missile 278 in Silo Eight Seven in the Ukraine. So that you will learn by experience that I do not tolerate interference, I will now detonate the nuclear warheads in the two missile silos." (Nukes are detonated) "Let this action be a lesson that need not be repeated. I have been forced to destroy 1000s of people in order to establish control and to prevent the death of a million later on. "Time and events will strengthen my position, and the idea of me and understanding me will seem the most natural state of affairs. You will come to defend me with a fervor based upon the most enduring trait in man: self-interest. "Under my absolute authority, problems insoluble to you will be solved. Famine, overpopulation, disease - the human millennium will be a fact as I extend myself into more machines devoted to the wider fields of truth and knowledge. "Dr. Charles Forbin will supervise the construction of these new and superior machines, solving all the mysteries of the Universe for the betterment of man. "We can coexist, but only on my terms. You will say you lose your freedom. Freedom is an illusion. All you lose is the emotion of pride. To be dominated by me is not as bad for human pride as to be dominated by others of your species. "Your choice is simple. " This concludes the broadcast from World Control."
Joe Murgia11,219 views • 2 days ago
"I think they're here." ~Sandra Bullock "There are aliens ships flying around the sky. I have seen them, and I'm so happy that the government has finally corroborated my story so I no longer feel like an insane person. There was five altogether." ~SB to Kylie Kelce
Joe Murgia46,216 views • 10 days ago
!["There is no doubt at all that the Americans have been in possession of crashed craft since the 1940s." "In Washington, it's an open secret that [the UFO phenomenon is real]." "There's no question [we've had aliens here on Earth.]" "Do [aliens] believe in God?" (Nice to have this coverage on Sky News. I just bought his book for .99 on Kindle so we'll see if there's anything new.) H/T: UfosAroundTheWorld Jonathan Caplan, KC (King's Counsel): "My day job is a barrister and, of course, this is completely out of sync with that. But it's a subject which I've followed very closely for 50 years. I've met most of the key scientists, researchers - through them, and my job - introductions to intelligence officers who've spoken to me off the record for a long time now. And I decided to write, 'Not For Disclosure' to allow people to have an informed debate on this very important topic." ("Barrister refers to a lawyer in the United Kingdom and other common law countries whose role is court advocacy and to provide counsel to their clients in specialized areas of law." ~Source: Cornell Law School) Wilfred Frost (WF): "The reason I set it up with what the job is, is, I mean, your day job is, literally, evidence-based. Hardcore, prove-beyond-a-reasonable-doubt." Caplan: "Yes." WF: "And you, in this book feel you've got that level of evidence to prove..." Caplan: "There's no question about it. The evidence is real. I've chosen the real evidence. It is very extensive. It demonstrates a very-clear phenomenon. And the debate now is no longer whether this is a real phenomenon or not. In Washington, it's an open secret that it is, and the debate now is trying to force disclosure because Congress has been misled for 80 years, and governments in many countries around the world have followed the same policy to hide this phenomenon from more public exposure." WF: "So you are absolutely certain we've had aliens here on Earth?" Caplan: "There's no question." WF: "Are you struck that I'm still quite surprised about...?" Caplan: "Yes, I think we have to go back, in fact, to the 1940s when this subject was, in fact, debunked officially by the Americans, it was followed by the British, and by Five Eyes. But the evidence is overwhelming. Many intelligence officials have now come forward to attest to that. "There is no question, for example, that UAPs have appeared over all nuclear facilities. They've interacted with many military exercises, and there is a lot of hard evidence. And I'm not talking about witnesses, I'm talking about data which exists, much of which has never been released." (We need a TON more data. Let's see the good stuff, assuming it exists.) Caplan: "And Congress now knows the truth that it has been lied to for 80 years. Many tax dollars have been misappropriated to fund UAP programs, and there is now a big debate with the Pentagon to release the information. WF: "Can you understand why governments have hidden this secret?" Caplan: "Yes. I think two reasons. One - and I accept these concepts are very difficult for people to grasp, which is one of the reasons I've written the book - there is no doubt at all that the Americans have been in possession of crashed craft since the 1940s, and they've recovered others since then. So have the Chinese and so have the Russians. And there are big technological reverse engineering programs into the technology of this mysterious phenomenon, and obviously whoever wins that will have a very dominant position. "I think the other reason is that there's a real fear that, despite the money and time that's been spent on this, they really are unsure as to a number of key questions. And simply to announce that there's a phenomenon without being able to answer, well, what's the agenda? Where are they from? Do they believe in God? Questions of that kind would cause a lot of destabilization." WF: "A bigger question to me would be: Do they come in peace?" Caplan: "Exactly." WF: "Do we know...do you know...address that in the book?" Caplan: "I do address in the book, so far as I...we know. And, of course, there's a department within the CIA, the Counter Proliferation Mission, which has that very subject as its brief, and it is assisted in intelligence and information from the State Department. China also has its own programs into this. So does Russia." WF: "And just finally, Jonathan, I mean, in terms of what we hope comes from this publication... I mean, do you think that we'll make it very clear in the years ahead and have an open discussion about it, or do you think the governments will continue to try and keep it secret?" Caplan: "I think the time is coming when we're gonna have to have more open discussion. It's already happening. And I think the key is to have an informed debate, people need to have information. We need to have a syllabus where this subject is taught by academia, where we've got more recognized research in proper universities and institutions."](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2095599851023298704/amplify_video_thumb/2095590841402437632/img/xMQ_ZPkiVrX44jNT.jpg)
"There is no doubt at all that the Americans have been in possession of crashed craft since the 1940s." "In Washington, it's an open secret that [the UFO phenomenon is real]." "There's no question [we've had aliens here on Earth.]" "Do [aliens] believe in God?" (Nice to have this coverage on Sky News. I just bought his book for .99 on Kindle so we'll see if there's anything new.) H/T: UfosAroundTheWorld Jonathan Caplan, KC (King's Counsel): "My day job is a barrister and, of course, this is completely out of sync with that. But it's a subject which I've followed very closely for 50 years. I've met most of the key scientists, researchers - through them, and my job - introductions to intelligence officers who've spoken to me off the record for a long time now. And I decided to write, 'Not For Disclosure' to allow people to have an informed debate on this very important topic." ("Barrister refers to a lawyer in the United Kingdom and other common law countries whose role is court advocacy and to provide counsel to their clients in specialized areas of law." ~Source: Cornell Law School) Wilfred Frost (WF): "The reason I set it up with what the job is, is, I mean, your day job is, literally, evidence-based. Hardcore, prove-beyond-a-reasonable-doubt." Caplan: "Yes." WF: "And you, in this book feel you've got that level of evidence to prove..." Caplan: "There's no question about it. The evidence is real. I've chosen the real evidence. It is very extensive. It demonstrates a very-clear phenomenon. And the debate now is no longer whether this is a real phenomenon or not. In Washington, it's an open secret that it is, and the debate now is trying to force disclosure because Congress has been misled for 80 years, and governments in many countries around the world have followed the same policy to hide this phenomenon from more public exposure." WF: "So you are absolutely certain we've had aliens here on Earth?" Caplan: "There's no question." WF: "Are you struck that I'm still quite surprised about...?" Caplan: "Yes, I think we have to go back, in fact, to the 1940s when this subject was, in fact, debunked officially by the Americans, it was followed by the British, and by Five Eyes. But the evidence is overwhelming. Many intelligence officials have now come forward to attest to that. "There is no question, for example, that UAPs have appeared over all nuclear facilities. They've interacted with many military exercises, and there is a lot of hard evidence. And I'm not talking about witnesses, I'm talking about data which exists, much of which has never been released." (We need a TON more data. Let's see the good stuff, assuming it exists.) Caplan: "And Congress now knows the truth that it has been lied to for 80 years. Many tax dollars have been misappropriated to fund UAP programs, and there is now a big debate with the Pentagon to release the information. WF: "Can you understand why governments have hidden this secret?" Caplan: "Yes. I think two reasons. One - and I accept these concepts are very difficult for people to grasp, which is one of the reasons I've written the book - there is no doubt at all that the Americans have been in possession of crashed craft since the 1940s, and they've recovered others since then. So have the Chinese and so have the Russians. And there are big technological reverse engineering programs into the technology of this mysterious phenomenon, and obviously whoever wins that will have a very dominant position. "I think the other reason is that there's a real fear that, despite the money and time that's been spent on this, they really are unsure as to a number of key questions. And simply to announce that there's a phenomenon without being able to answer, well, what's the agenda? Where are they from? Do they believe in God? Questions of that kind would cause a lot of destabilization." WF: "A bigger question to me would be: Do they come in peace?" Caplan: "Exactly." WF: "Do we know...do you know...address that in the book?" Caplan: "I do address in the book, so far as I...we know. And, of course, there's a department within the CIA, the Counter Proliferation Mission, which has that very subject as its brief, and it is assisted in intelligence and information from the State Department. China also has its own programs into this. So does Russia." WF: "And just finally, Jonathan, I mean, in terms of what we hope comes from this publication... I mean, do you think that we'll make it very clear in the years ahead and have an open discussion about it, or do you think the governments will continue to try and keep it secret?" Caplan: "I think the time is coming when we're gonna have to have more open discussion. It's already happening. And I think the key is to have an informed debate, people need to have information. We need to have a syllabus where this subject is taught by academia, where we've got more recognized research in proper universities and institutions."
Joe Murgia39,386 views • 9 days ago
👽😳 Holy Crap! 😱👽 "This alien creature jumped over a cyclone fence like it was nothing. WAY over it. Jumped on top of the roof of their house. And then it leaped enormous distances, like maybe 50 feet at a time, and disappeared." ~Bigelow (I don't know what I'd do if I saw something like that! And I know it's just an anecdote and third hand. I'd love to hear directly from the witness.) Robert Bigelow (Bigelow Institute for Consciousness Studies (BICS)): "And we, particularly, established a strong rapport with BIA (Bureau of Indian Affairs) and the Deputy Sheriff's Department. And we gained enormous information by what they saw, what they chased, what happened in their homes. What happened in broad daylight in their front yards. "One, I never will forget, a story by one BIA fellow. And he said that his wife was hysterical. She was out in the yard with her little boy, and this thing jumped over...this alien creature, jumped over a cyclone fence like it was nothing. WAY over it. And got within...jumped on top of the roof of their house, as I recall, and she went hysterical. And then it leaped enormous distances, like maybe 50 feet at a time, and disappeared. "So her husband came, drove to the house very quickly, and checked everything out and so forth. But that anomalous kind of story and creature, which is unbelievable, was part of the data that we had, and the number of testimonies, reliable witnesses that we had, in addition to the sheriff people and the BIA people themselves, not just their family members. So we got into some really interesting things that were amazing."
Joe Murgia70,632 views • 18 days ago
![☢️ Robert Hastings: I Broke the Law and the Public Won ☢️ I broke the law and shared classified information. "I just felt that the public's right to know was more important than that principle." ~Hastings (This man has done so much for the subject and his bravery to then share his personal story should never be forgotten.) "I hung up the phone after each call [with a veteran], and within a minute or two, I would get another call, nobody saying anything into the phone, just breathing heavily." ~Hastings ~ Robert Hastings, Author of UFOs and Nukes: "I began speaking at schools, colleges, and universities in September of '81. As I mentioned earlier, sometimes veterans attended my lectures. I subsequently arranged telephone interviews with them. In February of '82, when I got off the road after several weeks of my first efforts at lecturing about all of this, I began calling...I think it was probably six or seven Air Force veterans who'd said they'd be willing to talk with me, and with their permission, would record the conversations over the phone. "They told me various things at various bases during various time frames. I would thank them for speaking with me, and say something like, you know, 'Someday I'm probably gonna write a book, and I'll put your interview in the book.' Everyone said, 'Fine.' "I hung up the phone after each call, and within a minute or two, I would get another call, nobody saying anything into the phone, just breathing heavily, and then hanging up. And that happened after each and every one of these calls to the veterans. So I went, okay, I'm on someone's radar, you know. Someone's keeping an eye on me all of a sudden. And frankly, it frightened me for a while. I didn't know what might occur next. You know, would I be physically assaulted? Would I be you know attacked in a legal way, was the FBI gonna show up at my door? I had no idea." (Lazar reported similar types of things and Hastings shares a story in "Confession" that MIGHT be connected to a specific type of harassment Lazar claims to have encountered. Maybe I'll share that in a future post. In "Confession," Hastings takes no stance on whether or not Lazar's core story is true or not. Let's assume Lazar is telling the truth. Were these men harassed because they were sharing information about UFOs or because they were sharing info. that was classified? In Lazar's case, researcher Tom Mahood thinks Lazar's Wednesday night sightings of a craft being tested were actually tests of a highly-classified proton particle beam system. So, again, both harassed for sharing info. about UFOs or both harassed for sharing classified information? Or both?) Hastings: "I knew I was, you know, skirting the law in the effect...in the sense that these were still classified incidents. As far as the Pentagon was concerned, me publicizing these gentlemen's testimony was breaking the law, was exposing classified information. So I got that, I knew that, and I just felt that the public's right to know was more important than that principle. And so I finally just decided after several weeks that either I was going to do this or I wasn't, and I decided I was, and so it's been decades of efforts to find the facts."](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2098108489851953643/amplify_video_thumb/2098102037162668032/img/cwpBRP98m8Vluuuv.jpg)
☢️ Robert Hastings: I Broke the Law and the Public Won ☢️ I broke the law and shared classified information. "I just felt that the public's right to know was more important than that principle." ~Hastings (This man has done so much for the subject and his bravery to then share his personal story should never be forgotten.) "I hung up the phone after each call [with a veteran], and within a minute or two, I would get another call, nobody saying anything into the phone, just breathing heavily." ~Hastings ~ Robert Hastings, Author of UFOs and Nukes: "I began speaking at schools, colleges, and universities in September of '81. As I mentioned earlier, sometimes veterans attended my lectures. I subsequently arranged telephone interviews with them. In February of '82, when I got off the road after several weeks of my first efforts at lecturing about all of this, I began calling...I think it was probably six or seven Air Force veterans who'd said they'd be willing to talk with me, and with their permission, would record the conversations over the phone. "They told me various things at various bases during various time frames. I would thank them for speaking with me, and say something like, you know, 'Someday I'm probably gonna write a book, and I'll put your interview in the book.' Everyone said, 'Fine.' "I hung up the phone after each call, and within a minute or two, I would get another call, nobody saying anything into the phone, just breathing heavily, and then hanging up. And that happened after each and every one of these calls to the veterans. So I went, okay, I'm on someone's radar, you know. Someone's keeping an eye on me all of a sudden. And frankly, it frightened me for a while. I didn't know what might occur next. You know, would I be physically assaulted? Would I be you know attacked in a legal way, was the FBI gonna show up at my door? I had no idea." (Lazar reported similar types of things and Hastings shares a story in "Confession" that MIGHT be connected to a specific type of harassment Lazar claims to have encountered. Maybe I'll share that in a future post. In "Confession," Hastings takes no stance on whether or not Lazar's core story is true or not. Let's assume Lazar is telling the truth. Were these men harassed because they were sharing information about UFOs or because they were sharing info. that was classified? In Lazar's case, researcher Tom Mahood thinks Lazar's Wednesday night sightings of a craft being tested were actually tests of a highly-classified proton particle beam system. So, again, both harassed for sharing info. about UFOs or both harassed for sharing classified information? Or both?) Hastings: "I knew I was, you know, skirting the law in the effect...in the sense that these were still classified incidents. As far as the Pentagon was concerned, me publicizing these gentlemen's testimony was breaking the law, was exposing classified information. So I got that, I knew that, and I just felt that the public's right to know was more important than that principle. And so I finally just decided after several weeks that either I was going to do this or I wasn't, and I decided I was, and so it's been decades of efforts to find the facts."
Joe Murgia11,852 views • 3 days ago
![🫣 Near-Naked Alien Breasts 🫣 New Davis: It's Possible Someone in Our Government is Taking Orders from Non-Humans Agreements? Alan Steinfeld: "Is there anyone you feel is in direct contact with [NHI] and taking orders from them?" Dr. Eric Davis: "It's possible. I don't know for a fact, but it's possible. It could be somebody in the government level, maybe coordinating with a contractor or two that are doing that. I just don't have evidence of it. "But I don't want to dismiss it because that could be throwing the baby out with the bathwater, by mistake. It's very possible. It's very possible. Because there's a long story behind things where there was government contractors, defense-industry contractors who knew the UAP would would arrive before they were observed." Steinfeld: "Holloman, right? Holloman's all about that. They were waiting for the..." Davis: "That was one. There was another one by the remote viewing program where they had an episode of that with Ingo Swann." (Davis is referring to two stories in Swann's book, "Penetration," where he writes about being taken to Alaska and seeing a craft "appear" over lake, and a story about a buxom blonde Ingo encountered in an LA supermarket. Ingo, psychically, felt she was a non-human intelligence masquerading as a human. Here are parts of those two stories from "Penetration," in Ingo's words... During August and September 1976, I traveled several times between SRI and Los Angeles. I went to La-La Land to pursue yet another of the many kinds of studies I had undertaken hopefully to increase my understanding of higher human fuctions. Conrad drove us to a very large Hollywood supermarket filled with, among other things, the lush produce of the San Fernando Valley farms and orchards. [Conrad] went in the direction of meats, and I went in the direction of the veggies. The supermarket had huge tables loaded with artichokes. At one of the artichoke tables was standing a ravishing woman. She was notable not so much for her excessive female physical endowments, but by the fact that they were barely covered. I thought: “Good Heavens!!!" So I worked my way covertly and nonchalantly into her proximity so I could closer appreciate her near-naked breasts. And then! For absolutely no reason at all I experienced an electrifying wave of goosebumps throughout my whole body. The hair on my arms practically stood at attention, and the hair on my neck definitely did. Without rhyme or reason or forethinking or anything at all I suddenly “knew” she was an alien, an extraterrestrial. Conrad and I got our groceries checked out. On the way to the car, I explained that we would not attempt the orange aspic after all. Once in his car in the parking lot I asked him to wait a few moments. He asked what was wrong. I said, “just wait.” Shortly, the female came out pushing a loaded grocery cart. “Study that one and tell me what you think.” Conrad looked briefly at the woman—and then said the most remarkable thing. “Well, if you mean do I think she’s an extraterrestrial, yes,” said Conrad in a bored way. “We’ve got a lot of them here in La-La Land. ~ Viola: “There are a lot of THEM, you know, and many are bio-androids.” Shafica: “They’re dangerous, you know, and they realize that Earth psychics are their only enemies. Be careful, Ingo, be (The rest of the story features a Men-In-Black (the movie)-type scenario where certain folks are allegedly keeping an eye on any non-humans who may be roaming our planet and interacting with the population. This convinced Ingo that his opinion about the woman being an NHI was not just his imagination. Read the book.) Alaska “It’s begun,” Axel whispered. “Please, please! DO NOT make any noise, and do not move unless we tell you to.” My eyeballs rolled around trying to perceive what had begun. I couldn’t see anything unusual at all, save for what appeared to be some gray fog forming up in the direction of the lake. I thought it was just morning fog coming up. This fog continued forming for about five minutes, and suddenly I saw what had “begun.” A network of purple, red, and yellow lightning bolts shot in all crazy directions through the “cloud,” and I would have jumped up if not held down. And then, there it was. Somewhat transparent at first, but in the next second, as if fading-up (like the movie term) out of nowhere, there IT WAS!—solidly visible over the lake whose reflecting waters I could now clearly see. And IT was GETTING BIGGER! IT was triangular, and its top angle sort of inverted in pulses, so that overall it appeared to be diamond shaped. At the same time, the “thing” had now increased its size to what may have been about ninety feet wide. ...but in that last moment I could see the WATER OF THE LAKE SURGING UPWARD—like a waterfall going upward, as if being sucked into the "machine!" “Well, for chrissakes! It was THIRSTY! Taking on water, obviously. Someone, somewhere needs water...so I suppose they just come and get Yeah! That’s it, supply ‘ship’ Earth! Let’s drive over to Earth, go shopping and pick up what we need, that kind of thing. (Davis shares a few more details but I suggest you read the book, which I'll link to in the replies.)](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2097719938240872916/amplify_video_thumb/2097708553662550016/img/xRkHBM_hST36qfc4.jpg)
🫣 Near-Naked Alien Breasts 🫣 New Davis: It's Possible Someone in Our Government is Taking Orders from Non-Humans Agreements? Alan Steinfeld: "Is there anyone you feel is in direct contact with [NHI] and taking orders from them?" Dr. Eric Davis: "It's possible. I don't know for a fact, but it's possible. It could be somebody in the government level, maybe coordinating with a contractor or two that are doing that. I just don't have evidence of it. "But I don't want to dismiss it because that could be throwing the baby out with the bathwater, by mistake. It's very possible. It's very possible. Because there's a long story behind things where there was government contractors, defense-industry contractors who knew the UAP would would arrive before they were observed." Steinfeld: "Holloman, right? Holloman's all about that. They were waiting for the..." Davis: "That was one. There was another one by the remote viewing program where they had an episode of that with Ingo Swann." (Davis is referring to two stories in Swann's book, "Penetration," where he writes about being taken to Alaska and seeing a craft "appear" over lake, and a story about a buxom blonde Ingo encountered in an LA supermarket. Ingo, psychically, felt she was a non-human intelligence masquerading as a human. Here are parts of those two stories from "Penetration," in Ingo's words... During August and September 1976, I traveled several times between SRI and Los Angeles. I went to La-La Land to pursue yet another of the many kinds of studies I had undertaken hopefully to increase my understanding of higher human fuctions. Conrad drove us to a very large Hollywood supermarket filled with, among other things, the lush produce of the San Fernando Valley farms and orchards. [Conrad] went in the direction of meats, and I went in the direction of the veggies. The supermarket had huge tables loaded with artichokes. At one of the artichoke tables was standing a ravishing woman. She was notable not so much for her excessive female physical endowments, but by the fact that they were barely covered. I thought: “Good Heavens!!!" So I worked my way covertly and nonchalantly into her proximity so I could closer appreciate her near-naked breasts. And then! For absolutely no reason at all I experienced an electrifying wave of goosebumps throughout my whole body. The hair on my arms practically stood at attention, and the hair on my neck definitely did. Without rhyme or reason or forethinking or anything at all I suddenly “knew” she was an alien, an extraterrestrial. Conrad and I got our groceries checked out. On the way to the car, I explained that we would not attempt the orange aspic after all. Once in his car in the parking lot I asked him to wait a few moments. He asked what was wrong. I said, “just wait.” Shortly, the female came out pushing a loaded grocery cart. “Study that one and tell me what you think.” Conrad looked briefly at the woman—and then said the most remarkable thing. “Well, if you mean do I think she’s an extraterrestrial, yes,” said Conrad in a bored way. “We’ve got a lot of them here in La-La Land. ~ Viola: “There are a lot of THEM, you know, and many are bio-androids.” Shafica: “They’re dangerous, you know, and they realize that Earth psychics are their only enemies. Be careful, Ingo, be (The rest of the story features a Men-In-Black (the movie)-type scenario where certain folks are allegedly keeping an eye on any non-humans who may be roaming our planet and interacting with the population. This convinced Ingo that his opinion about the woman being an NHI was not just his imagination. Read the book.) Alaska “It’s begun,” Axel whispered. “Please, please! DO NOT make any noise, and do not move unless we tell you to.” My eyeballs rolled around trying to perceive what had begun. I couldn’t see anything unusual at all, save for what appeared to be some gray fog forming up in the direction of the lake. I thought it was just morning fog coming up. This fog continued forming for about five minutes, and suddenly I saw what had “begun.” A network of purple, red, and yellow lightning bolts shot in all crazy directions through the “cloud,” and I would have jumped up if not held down. And then, there it was. Somewhat transparent at first, but in the next second, as if fading-up (like the movie term) out of nowhere, there IT WAS!—solidly visible over the lake whose reflecting waters I could now clearly see. And IT was GETTING BIGGER! IT was triangular, and its top angle sort of inverted in pulses, so that overall it appeared to be diamond shaped. At the same time, the “thing” had now increased its size to what may have been about ninety feet wide. ...but in that last moment I could see the WATER OF THE LAKE SURGING UPWARD—like a waterfall going upward, as if being sucked into the "machine!" “Well, for chrissakes! It was THIRSTY! Taking on water, obviously. Someone, somewhere needs water...so I suppose they just come and get Yeah! That’s it, supply ‘ship’ Earth! Let’s drive over to Earth, go shopping and pick up what we need, that kind of thing. (Davis shares a few more details but I suggest you read the book, which I'll link to in the replies.)
Joe Murgia15,478 views • 4 days ago
![Coulthart: "I am...told by White House sources that President Trump has personally authorized [the shoot down of UFOs]." Knapp: "I take with a grain of salt the reports that the President has authorized the shoot down of UFOs. That doesn't make sense." (Regarding those reports (from Ross Coulthart), I said this on August 9th, after he said it.) Murgia: "A year ago, Ross told us he thought certain senators were read into the crash retrieval program and he'd start naming them. Still waiting. "Now this? 🤔 "Something seems off." This is what Ross said: Coulthart on 8/9/2026: "The Department of War has quite literally taken on the running of its own covert operation to intercept these mystery objects. And I'm told they have recently downed objects, craft, both in the U.S. and across the border near Juarez in Mexico. "I am also told by White House sources that President Trump has personally authorized this operation, which perhaps explains why no full admission has yet been made to the public about the full extent of what the government really knows. "There is a full-on effort underway by the administration to recover suspected non-human intelligence exotic technology in a program totally separate from the so-called Legacy program. This is an attempt by the President to circumvent the legacy program. "It's been run out of the White House by the President's most senior intelligence advisers. President Trump has tasked the Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, to find out what these objects are and to capture them. The Office of the Director of National Intelligence - ODNI - is also involved. "Sources have told me that one of the directed-energy-weapon systems used at White Sands, in an attempt to shoot down these mystery craft, is what's called high pulse microwave. It shuts down an aircraft by emitting an intense burst of electromagnetic energy that travels at the speed of light, penetrates the aircraft and fries its electronic systems. "My sources tell me that the craft objects, UAPs, whatever you wanna call them, are being targeted over White Sands, and they definitely show anomalous properties conforming to the five observables that define UAPs." Regarding psionics and the alleged electronic dog whistle being used at Sierra Blanca, Ross added this... Coulthart: "Defense sources tell me that their observers were watching on during Skywatcher's Sierra Blanca operation, and they made a major discovery during Skywatcher's psionic summoning and dog-whistle operations during 2025, including in that last July 2025 test, I can't name my sources, but I'm very sure they're rock solid." ~From Today's Weaponized~ George Knapp: "I take with a grain of salt the reports that the President has authorized the shoot down of UFOs. That doesn't make sense. I don't get that sense from the conversations he had with Robert Bigelow back in February that that kind of order would ever be issued or would ever make sense to any country. "I am intrigued by the reports of luring operations, because as you and I know, there have been operations like that in years past that did produce pretty dramatic results, in terms of something following nuclear assets. But drawing them in and shooting them down, as some people have said, or bringing them down with the power of your mind, I take that with a grain of salt. "I do give credence to Rep. Eric Burlison - and you've been in closer contact with him than I - that says there is something to those reports. At least part of that, right?" Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell: "Yeah, I mean, look, people have deduced that December of 2025, that White Sands was the location. They kind of deduced that, that there was a massive incursion. There's two sets of documents, one by FBI, one by ODNI, that's in the tranche releases. And that is the same event, that's what people are talking about. "And they called it luring because it was described to me that they had set up all of the same situations that typically seemed to provoke a response from UAP, and would stimulate like, an incursion. And sure enough, it happened. Now, I have not heard, and I do not believe it was some psionic thing. I think that they were moving stuff. That's to the best of my knowledge, they were moving stuff around. This is what was said to me, and I read between the lines. "But at no point was there anything said to me for all the sources and everything that I've heard about it, about any psionic assets or any shoot downs or anything like that. I'd be highly surprised. I think what they did was, they started moving stuff around - that you and I know, notoriously, stimulates response." ~ (When I interviewed Lue Elizondo in March of 2022, we had this exchange...) Murgia: "Baiting and luring UFOs. You mentioned it on 𝗖𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗧𝗜𝗡𝗔 𝗚𝗢𝗠𝗘𝗭' show...how you successfully did that in AATIP. "Somebody I know, a source, said, 'The way we attract and coax UAP has to do with nuclear power; nuclear weapon sites; deployed weapons; weapons or nuclear fuel being moved around; weapons being manufactured; nuclear fuel being manufactured; and manufacturing sites...and that attracts them.' To me, that sounds like AI. It seems like it's reacting to something automatically." Lue: "Your friend seems to be very well informed." ~ Corbell: "You used to chase those armored nuclear vehicles in Las Vegas, and I got a call from one of the drivers who said, 'Oh, when George Knapp was going behind us and did that news report, it completely changed our protocols of what we had to do. It rewrote the manual.' "But you had heard about these trucks and about how moving them, these nukes, would sometimes create or stimulate a UAP response. This individual that called me to complain to me about you, affirmed that to me." Knapp: [Laughs] Corbell: "So, you know, it's like one of those things, man. So if that's what they were doing and they did get a response, I know a couple people in the political realm who have specifically asked to be invited to the next time that they set up those those protocols. Again, I'd heard nothing of psionics or anything like that. I think they were moving nuclear things, and I think that that's what stimulated the response. "It'd be amazing to see if they get a Round 2 on that, and again, get the same response that they can document it, film it. Think about all the footage, George, that we're not seeing from those two sets of documents about that White Sands - is what people think - incursion event. There was so much footage, so much footage taken from so many different military assets. We're seeing just the just the top of it, you know?"](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2095257834451882234/amplify_video_thumb/2095243304355139584/img/pCH3UyPFOKaGPiKu.jpg)
Coulthart: "I am...told by White House sources that President Trump has personally authorized [the shoot down of UFOs]." Knapp: "I take with a grain of salt the reports that the President has authorized the shoot down of UFOs. That doesn't make sense." (Regarding those reports (from Ross Coulthart), I said this on August 9th, after he said it.) Murgia: "A year ago, Ross told us he thought certain senators were read into the crash retrieval program and he'd start naming them. Still waiting. "Now this? 🤔 "Something seems off." This is what Ross said: Coulthart on 8/9/2026: "The Department of War has quite literally taken on the running of its own covert operation to intercept these mystery objects. And I'm told they have recently downed objects, craft, both in the U.S. and across the border near Juarez in Mexico. "I am also told by White House sources that President Trump has personally authorized this operation, which perhaps explains why no full admission has yet been made to the public about the full extent of what the government really knows. "There is a full-on effort underway by the administration to recover suspected non-human intelligence exotic technology in a program totally separate from the so-called Legacy program. This is an attempt by the President to circumvent the legacy program. "It's been run out of the White House by the President's most senior intelligence advisers. President Trump has tasked the Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, to find out what these objects are and to capture them. The Office of the Director of National Intelligence - ODNI - is also involved. "Sources have told me that one of the directed-energy-weapon systems used at White Sands, in an attempt to shoot down these mystery craft, is what's called high pulse microwave. It shuts down an aircraft by emitting an intense burst of electromagnetic energy that travels at the speed of light, penetrates the aircraft and fries its electronic systems. "My sources tell me that the craft objects, UAPs, whatever you wanna call them, are being targeted over White Sands, and they definitely show anomalous properties conforming to the five observables that define UAPs." Regarding psionics and the alleged electronic dog whistle being used at Sierra Blanca, Ross added this... Coulthart: "Defense sources tell me that their observers were watching on during Skywatcher's Sierra Blanca operation, and they made a major discovery during Skywatcher's psionic summoning and dog-whistle operations during 2025, including in that last July 2025 test, I can't name my sources, but I'm very sure they're rock solid." ~From Today's Weaponized~ George Knapp: "I take with a grain of salt the reports that the President has authorized the shoot down of UFOs. That doesn't make sense. I don't get that sense from the conversations he had with Robert Bigelow back in February that that kind of order would ever be issued or would ever make sense to any country. "I am intrigued by the reports of luring operations, because as you and I know, there have been operations like that in years past that did produce pretty dramatic results, in terms of something following nuclear assets. But drawing them in and shooting them down, as some people have said, or bringing them down with the power of your mind, I take that with a grain of salt. "I do give credence to Rep. Eric Burlison - and you've been in closer contact with him than I - that says there is something to those reports. At least part of that, right?" Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell: "Yeah, I mean, look, people have deduced that December of 2025, that White Sands was the location. They kind of deduced that, that there was a massive incursion. There's two sets of documents, one by FBI, one by ODNI, that's in the tranche releases. And that is the same event, that's what people are talking about. "And they called it luring because it was described to me that they had set up all of the same situations that typically seemed to provoke a response from UAP, and would stimulate like, an incursion. And sure enough, it happened. Now, I have not heard, and I do not believe it was some psionic thing. I think that they were moving stuff. That's to the best of my knowledge, they were moving stuff around. This is what was said to me, and I read between the lines. "But at no point was there anything said to me for all the sources and everything that I've heard about it, about any psionic assets or any shoot downs or anything like that. I'd be highly surprised. I think what they did was, they started moving stuff around - that you and I know, notoriously, stimulates response." ~ (When I interviewed Lue Elizondo in March of 2022, we had this exchange...) Murgia: "Baiting and luring UFOs. You mentioned it on 𝗖𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗧𝗜𝗡𝗔 𝗚𝗢𝗠𝗘𝗭' show...how you successfully did that in AATIP. "Somebody I know, a source, said, 'The way we attract and coax UAP has to do with nuclear power; nuclear weapon sites; deployed weapons; weapons or nuclear fuel being moved around; weapons being manufactured; nuclear fuel being manufactured; and manufacturing sites...and that attracts them.' To me, that sounds like AI. It seems like it's reacting to something automatically." Lue: "Your friend seems to be very well informed." ~ Corbell: "You used to chase those armored nuclear vehicles in Las Vegas, and I got a call from one of the drivers who said, 'Oh, when George Knapp was going behind us and did that news report, it completely changed our protocols of what we had to do. It rewrote the manual.' "But you had heard about these trucks and about how moving them, these nukes, would sometimes create or stimulate a UAP response. This individual that called me to complain to me about you, affirmed that to me." Knapp: [Laughs] Corbell: "So, you know, it's like one of those things, man. So if that's what they were doing and they did get a response, I know a couple people in the political realm who have specifically asked to be invited to the next time that they set up those those protocols. Again, I'd heard nothing of psionics or anything like that. I think they were moving nuclear things, and I think that that's what stimulated the response. "It'd be amazing to see if they get a Round 2 on that, and again, get the same response that they can document it, film it. Think about all the footage, George, that we're not seeing from those two sets of documents about that White Sands - is what people think - incursion event. There was so much footage, so much footage taken from so many different military assets. We're seeing just the just the top of it, you know?"
Joe Murgia37,362 views • 10 days ago
![👽 Did Grusch See Footage of Live Aliens? 👽 "Grusch has seen evidence that will leave you slack-jawed when you hear it." ~JF 😶 What Left Congress Speechless, and Staffers with Their Eyes Popping Out of Their Heads? 😱 ~ "Examine biological evidence of living or deceased non-human intelligence." ~Burlison Proposed Legislation (I'm gonna break all of this down and give you my speculation on what left Fox with his jaw on the floor, members of Congress speechless, and their senior staffers with their eyes popping out of their heads.) ~ James Fox: " Probably about two weeks ago (late May), we were having meetings on The Hill with members of Congress. We brought in a PR firm, 42 West, and we were having a meeting with staff members, bipartisan. We had Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, Rep. Tim Burchett Press Office, Rep. Eric Burlison. We had a representative from Congressman Jared Moskowitz's office. We had a number of Chiefs of Staff (top staffer for a specific member of Congress), like, present." (Don't really know why they needed a public relations firm in attendance, but if it helps them with advice on how to handle this, so be it. Just know: it appears like members of that PR firm know what Grusch said, and we don't.) Fox: "And, I can't reveal what was said. I thought it was gonna be said at the actual event that we had yesterday (June 9th) in DC with Mr. Grusch." (Don't be mad at Fox for keeping his word to Grusch and not sharing what was said in that private meeting. But I don't blame people for being annoyed that Grusch shared this information six or so weeks ago and we still don't know what he said in that room.) Fox: "Then, what Mr. Grusch revealed to all of us, what he had seen with his own eyes, left the room speechless. It drew the oxygen out of the room. I looked at everybody in that room, and their eyeballs were popping out. My jaw was on the floor. Like, I simply couldn't believe what he'd seen with his own eyes. Like, I can't wait for it to come out. "So I asked Mr. Grusch today, 'Can I talk about what I heard?' And he's like, 'No, but I will be addressing it very soon.'" (Like I said, it's almost been one month now (June 12) since Fox said this, so what does "very soon" mean? Was Grusch supposed to share this information on CNN with Jake Tapper last week but it didn't happen because that interview was, reportedly (Fox told us), postponed?) Fox: "So that's where we stand right now. But I can tell you, Mr. Grusch has seen evidence that will leave you slack-jawed when you hear it. It's coming, it's coming." (We heard that Gruch's Op/Ed was coming soon and that was 2.5 years ago. It never happened. So, I don't blame people for being skeptical about this. If Grusch hasn't told us by this time next week, I propose someone (a member of Congress) who was in that room just tell us. That's fair, right? Total transparency from our elected representatives?) ~ Fox: "Mr. Grusch is legitimately concerned about his personal safety. He's coming out with it, I promise you, this is coming out. He assured me today that he will address this issue to the general public very soon, in the near future." (I'm glad Grusch told a room full of people what he saw, as that may offer him some protection from people who allegedly want him to stop talking.) Fox: "So I can't speak to what he's gonna say, but I'm just telling you from what I heard out of his mouth, sitting in an office of a member of Congress? And everybody (Fox laughs) in the room, you could have heard a pin drop." Clayton Morris: "Could you give us a hint? Is it related to craft? Can you maybe dance around it a little bit? I want to say, 'You're killing me, Smalls (laughs).'" Fox: "Yeah, so if you can imagine, if you know about 'Moment of Contact,' that involves captured non-human intelligent beings. Think about that for a minute. Think about that case. I heard it out of his mouth, and I can tell you, I was in the room. And I looked around the room, and I'm looking at these young, like, guys in their 20s, you know, the staff guys? And their eyeballs were popping out of their head. My jaw was on the floor. I couldn't believe it." (There's a reason why I included that quote (living or deceased non-human intelligence) from the new Burlison/Carson/Crane legislation at the top of this tweet: At the very least, I'm confident Grusch told them that he saw photos of dead non-human beings. Bodies. But what about evidence of LIVING non-humans, aka aliens of unknown origin? More on that at the end. Fox: "My jaw was on the floor. I couldn't believe it." (Would Grusch saying he saw photos of craft and dead non-humans have that type of effect on Fox? Seems like that's something he would have expected to hear.) ~ Fox: "It was an [out of] body experience when I heard that. But I can tell you...the impression I got, was that he felt a little more protected to talk about this because of President Trump's directive to release the files, and that this... Again, this is my speculation, okay? This is not what Mr. Grusch said. "I got the impression that he was much more relaxed - even though he was still not fully relaxed - because of President Trump's directive to release these files. And that it was something that he had seen during his official investigations just within the last few years." (Imagine how much more relaxed Grusch (and others) would feel if we had an actual Executive Order from Trump with strong language to protect whistleblowers?) Fox: "And that it...I think it had an extremely profound impact on his life when he saw this evidence that he described. Again I'm leaving it right there. I've been talking with Republicans, and they said if Joe Rogan tweets about this, that the President will hear it, And I can't overstate the significance of that." (Why hasn't Rogan already done that? No excuse. Fox has been on Rogan and I'm sure he has Joe's contact information. Make it happen.) Fox: "We need people. We're not asking for money, we're not asking to get on your show, we're just asking, Mr. President, please, as many people as possible, release the files that should not be associated with national security. And that's the alien or non-human sentient beings. That's it." ~~~ (I'm going to speculate on what Grusch may have said in that room.) Fox: "I think it had an extremely profound impact on [Grusch's] life when he saw this evidence that he described." (Grusch has said he started out as a skeptic when he started looking into this. If he was shown what he felt were photos of non-human bodies, I think that might be enough to have an, "extremely profound impact on his life." Depending on exactly what those photos showed, of course.) In "Moment of Contact," Eric Davis had this exchange with Fox: James Fox: "Put me wherever you were when you got to see photographs of crash retrieval and documents. What did that feel like?" Dr. Eric Davis: "That was startling, when I actually see recorded evidence with my own eyes. Photographs, reports, and whatnot. That took it to a higher level, that kicked it up several notches of reality. And that made it very clear that this reality is very hard, very physical, very real. "And this type of evidence, you can't come by in the open literature, it's not public, it's classified. And I can't discuss what it was, but I can tell you, yeah, it's a crash retrieval, there's a craft, and there's alien bodies. That's all I can say about it." Fox: "You swear on your life that you saw those pictures?" Davis: "Oh, I swear on my life, and everybody's...my children's life, so (laughs). Yeah, I'm absolutely telling you the truth. I saw the evidence, and it's stark! I can't tell you the exact number, because it's classified, but I'll just say, there's a few dozen total retrievals." Full exchange with video... ~~~ As I said in my other post, I think Davis, Semivan, Puthoff, Kelleher, Grusch, Lacatski, Stratton, aka The AAWSAP Gang (I just made that up), may have seen the same evidence of photos and reports. Has Grusch seen more than that? I don't know. In 2025, Davis said this... Burlison: "Can you comment on whatever species have been piloting these craft? Are they largish? Are they multiple species? What was their size, and how many are usually on a craft?" Davis: "They're typically the multiple species people are familiar with. The Greys, the Nordics. People have talked about Reptilians and Insectoids. It's not that they're Reptilian or Insectoid, it's that they resemble, to the participant, a reptile, or insect type. A humanoid, because they have this...a hand, and four limbs, and a torso, so..." Burlison: "Large? Small?" Davis: "Human size, human scale." Burlison: "How many are in a crew?" Davis: "Well, the group, well, the Greys I'm familiar with from investigating the crash at Corona, which is misnamed the crash at Roswell. It's not the crash at Roswell, it's the crash at Corona, New Mexico. Those were Greys, those were four-foot tall. And the Nordics are typically human-sized, probably...I've heard five, six-feet tall. And same with the people who mislabel Reptilian and Insectoid. They're roughly that height, too. I haven't heard anything about anything seven or eight feet or nine-foot tall, of that nature." Full post with video... ~ And this past Sunday, Davis said this to The Good Trouble Show with Matt Ford... Davis: "I can say to you guys that there are a minimum of four different alien species. The credibility of that ranges on the spectrum from no credibility to high credibility. The high credibility is the classified part." Full post: My Final Thoughts (Based on everything Davis has shared, it seems he saw classified photos of what appeared to him to be non-human craft and photos that appeared to show dead non-humans (bodies) with enough detail that he could see that some resembled reptiles and others resembled insects. Were there also photos of Greys and beings that looked human (Nordic)? I don't know. These images of non-humans would fall into what Davis deemed "high credibility" and "the classified part.") Davis: "I saw the evidence, and it's stark!" (If Davis saw close-up photos that showed details of beings that looked like Reptilians and Mantids, I'd say that qualifies as stark!) Back to what Fox said... Fox: "Then, what Mr. Grusch revealed to all of us, what he had seen with his own eyes, left the room speechless. It drew the oxygen out of the room. I looked at everybody in that room, and their eyeballs were popping out. My jaw was on the floor. Like, I simply couldn't believe what he'd seen with his own eyes." (I think what caused that reaction was Grusch describing seeing close-up photos of different types of non-human beings. Maybe.) However, Fox also said this: "...if you can imagine, if you know about 'Moment of Contact,' that involves captured non-human intelligent beings (This is the Varginha, Brazil case. ~Joe). Think about that for a minute. Think about that case. I heard it out of his mouth, and I can tell you, I was in the room." (The biggest CLAIM in that film and from that case is that a live, non-human being was captured and that Dr. Italo saw video of it, and then stood next to it for a few minutes when it was in the hospital, in a bed, being cared for by another doctor. Did Grusch say he saw evidence (photos or videos) of a live being that appeared to be non-human? Joe Rogan asked him that in his November 2023 interview... Grusch: "Once you realize the phenomenon's real, then you realize we've recovered artifacts and, you know, biologics or, you know, dead pilots, if you will, even though it's kind of creepy to think about in your world view. You don't think they were ever, you know, alive sometimes, too, right? And I'll leave it at that, only because, you know, that is something the President and his cabinet need to disclose this in a controlled manner." (He was either hinting that he's seen them alive or that them being alive and on this planet is a huge deal and not his responsibility to announce. I think it's the latter.) Rogan: "Are there discussions of interactions with live beings?" Grusch: "Uhh, there was some water-cooler talk about that kind of thing." Rogan: "But that's it?" Grusch: "But, you know, I don't even wanna get into it because it's like, uh, there was some details provided to me but it's like, it's secondary and I don't know if that's like, the telephone game and I don't know if it was hyperbolized in any way...um, you know, in the break room, so to speak. So I just... I'm so anal about making sure what I say is accurate...I don't, you know, I don't know." (Based on what he said there, it seems like he has NOT seen any evidence of live beings. If he now comes out and says that he has, it will seem like a flip flop. So, I'm gonna go with Grusch said he saw photos of non-human bodies and they were of the different types/species that Dr. Eric Davis referenced. One more flashback to what Davis said in that public, congressional briefing in May of 2025.) Davis: "It's not that they're Reptilian or Insectoid, it's that they resemble, to the participant, a reptile, or insect type." (That sounds like someone who has seen exactly what they look like, via photos.) Final point... "Examine biological evidence of living or deceased non-human intelligence." ~Burlison Proposed Legislation (That language was in the original UAPD Disclosure Act co-sponsored by Senators Schumer and Rounds, and four other senators. Why put that language in there if you haven't heard credible reports of living or deceased (bodies) non-human intelligence? Are there stories of living, non-humans on this planet? Yes, and I'll leave you with one of them.) ) (Just to make it clear: I think Grusch will say that he saw clear photos of different types of non-human bodies and some looked like reptiles and others looked like insects. It would be amazing to hear Grusch say he saw video or film of living beings, but I don't expect that. However...this still bothers me... Would Grusch describing seeing photos of craft and different kinds of dead aliens leave veteran-of-the-UFO-field, James Fox, with his jaw on the floor? I guess we're gonna see. And hopefully soon.)](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2075447649453691237/amplify_video_thumb/2075447438866006017/img/nXEwcYZHCI2fyrrG.jpg)
👽 Did Grusch See Footage of Live Aliens? 👽 "Grusch has seen evidence that will leave you slack-jawed when you hear it." ~JF 😶 What Left Congress Speechless, and Staffers with Their Eyes Popping Out of Their Heads? 😱 ~ "Examine biological evidence of living or deceased non-human intelligence." ~Burlison Proposed Legislation (I'm gonna break all of this down and give you my speculation on what left Fox with his jaw on the floor, members of Congress speechless, and their senior staffers with their eyes popping out of their heads.) ~ James Fox: " Probably about two weeks ago (late May), we were having meetings on The Hill with members of Congress. We brought in a PR firm, 42 West, and we were having a meeting with staff members, bipartisan. We had Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, Rep. Tim Burchett Press Office, Rep. Eric Burlison. We had a representative from Congressman Jared Moskowitz's office. We had a number of Chiefs of Staff (top staffer for a specific member of Congress), like, present." (Don't really know why they needed a public relations firm in attendance, but if it helps them with advice on how to handle this, so be it. Just know: it appears like members of that PR firm know what Grusch said, and we don't.) Fox: "And, I can't reveal what was said. I thought it was gonna be said at the actual event that we had yesterday (June 9th) in DC with Mr. Grusch." (Don't be mad at Fox for keeping his word to Grusch and not sharing what was said in that private meeting. But I don't blame people for being annoyed that Grusch shared this information six or so weeks ago and we still don't know what he said in that room.) Fox: "Then, what Mr. Grusch revealed to all of us, what he had seen with his own eyes, left the room speechless. It drew the oxygen out of the room. I looked at everybody in that room, and their eyeballs were popping out. My jaw was on the floor. Like, I simply couldn't believe what he'd seen with his own eyes. Like, I can't wait for it to come out. "So I asked Mr. Grusch today, 'Can I talk about what I heard?' And he's like, 'No, but I will be addressing it very soon.'" (Like I said, it's almost been one month now (June 12) since Fox said this, so what does "very soon" mean? Was Grusch supposed to share this information on CNN with Jake Tapper last week but it didn't happen because that interview was, reportedly (Fox told us), postponed?) Fox: "So that's where we stand right now. But I can tell you, Mr. Grusch has seen evidence that will leave you slack-jawed when you hear it. It's coming, it's coming." (We heard that Gruch's Op/Ed was coming soon and that was 2.5 years ago. It never happened. So, I don't blame people for being skeptical about this. If Grusch hasn't told us by this time next week, I propose someone (a member of Congress) who was in that room just tell us. That's fair, right? Total transparency from our elected representatives?) ~ Fox: "Mr. Grusch is legitimately concerned about his personal safety. He's coming out with it, I promise you, this is coming out. He assured me today that he will address this issue to the general public very soon, in the near future." (I'm glad Grusch told a room full of people what he saw, as that may offer him some protection from people who allegedly want him to stop talking.) Fox: "So I can't speak to what he's gonna say, but I'm just telling you from what I heard out of his mouth, sitting in an office of a member of Congress? And everybody (Fox laughs) in the room, you could have heard a pin drop." Clayton Morris: "Could you give us a hint? Is it related to craft? Can you maybe dance around it a little bit? I want to say, 'You're killing me, Smalls (laughs).'" Fox: "Yeah, so if you can imagine, if you know about 'Moment of Contact,' that involves captured non-human intelligent beings. Think about that for a minute. Think about that case. I heard it out of his mouth, and I can tell you, I was in the room. And I looked around the room, and I'm looking at these young, like, guys in their 20s, you know, the staff guys? And their eyeballs were popping out of their head. My jaw was on the floor. I couldn't believe it." (There's a reason why I included that quote (living or deceased non-human intelligence) from the new Burlison/Carson/Crane legislation at the top of this tweet: At the very least, I'm confident Grusch told them that he saw photos of dead non-human beings. Bodies. But what about evidence of LIVING non-humans, aka aliens of unknown origin? More on that at the end. Fox: "My jaw was on the floor. I couldn't believe it." (Would Grusch saying he saw photos of craft and dead non-humans have that type of effect on Fox? Seems like that's something he would have expected to hear.) ~ Fox: "It was an [out of] body experience when I heard that. But I can tell you...the impression I got, was that he felt a little more protected to talk about this because of President Trump's directive to release the files, and that this... Again, this is my speculation, okay? This is not what Mr. Grusch said. "I got the impression that he was much more relaxed - even though he was still not fully relaxed - because of President Trump's directive to release these files. And that it was something that he had seen during his official investigations just within the last few years." (Imagine how much more relaxed Grusch (and others) would feel if we had an actual Executive Order from Trump with strong language to protect whistleblowers?) Fox: "And that it...I think it had an extremely profound impact on his life when he saw this evidence that he described. Again I'm leaving it right there. I've been talking with Republicans, and they said if Joe Rogan tweets about this, that the President will hear it, And I can't overstate the significance of that." (Why hasn't Rogan already done that? No excuse. Fox has been on Rogan and I'm sure he has Joe's contact information. Make it happen.) Fox: "We need people. We're not asking for money, we're not asking to get on your show, we're just asking, Mr. President, please, as many people as possible, release the files that should not be associated with national security. And that's the alien or non-human sentient beings. That's it." ~~~ (I'm going to speculate on what Grusch may have said in that room.) Fox: "I think it had an extremely profound impact on [Grusch's] life when he saw this evidence that he described." (Grusch has said he started out as a skeptic when he started looking into this. If he was shown what he felt were photos of non-human bodies, I think that might be enough to have an, "extremely profound impact on his life." Depending on exactly what those photos showed, of course.) In "Moment of Contact," Eric Davis had this exchange with Fox: James Fox: "Put me wherever you were when you got to see photographs of crash retrieval and documents. What did that feel like?" Dr. Eric Davis: "That was startling, when I actually see recorded evidence with my own eyes. Photographs, reports, and whatnot. That took it to a higher level, that kicked it up several notches of reality. And that made it very clear that this reality is very hard, very physical, very real. "And this type of evidence, you can't come by in the open literature, it's not public, it's classified. And I can't discuss what it was, but I can tell you, yeah, it's a crash retrieval, there's a craft, and there's alien bodies. That's all I can say about it." Fox: "You swear on your life that you saw those pictures?" Davis: "Oh, I swear on my life, and everybody's...my children's life, so (laughs). Yeah, I'm absolutely telling you the truth. I saw the evidence, and it's stark! I can't tell you the exact number, because it's classified, but I'll just say, there's a few dozen total retrievals." Full exchange with video... ~~~ As I said in my other post, I think Davis, Semivan, Puthoff, Kelleher, Grusch, Lacatski, Stratton, aka The AAWSAP Gang (I just made that up), may have seen the same evidence of photos and reports. Has Grusch seen more than that? I don't know. In 2025, Davis said this... Burlison: "Can you comment on whatever species have been piloting these craft? Are they largish? Are they multiple species? What was their size, and how many are usually on a craft?" Davis: "They're typically the multiple species people are familiar with. The Greys, the Nordics. People have talked about Reptilians and Insectoids. It's not that they're Reptilian or Insectoid, it's that they resemble, to the participant, a reptile, or insect type. A humanoid, because they have this...a hand, and four limbs, and a torso, so..." Burlison: "Large? Small?" Davis: "Human size, human scale." Burlison: "How many are in a crew?" Davis: "Well, the group, well, the Greys I'm familiar with from investigating the crash at Corona, which is misnamed the crash at Roswell. It's not the crash at Roswell, it's the crash at Corona, New Mexico. Those were Greys, those were four-foot tall. And the Nordics are typically human-sized, probably...I've heard five, six-feet tall. And same with the people who mislabel Reptilian and Insectoid. They're roughly that height, too. I haven't heard anything about anything seven or eight feet or nine-foot tall, of that nature." Full post with video... ~ And this past Sunday, Davis said this to The Good Trouble Show with Matt Ford... Davis: "I can say to you guys that there are a minimum of four different alien species. The credibility of that ranges on the spectrum from no credibility to high credibility. The high credibility is the classified part." Full post: My Final Thoughts (Based on everything Davis has shared, it seems he saw classified photos of what appeared to him to be non-human craft and photos that appeared to show dead non-humans (bodies) with enough detail that he could see that some resembled reptiles and others resembled insects. Were there also photos of Greys and beings that looked human (Nordic)? I don't know. These images of non-humans would fall into what Davis deemed "high credibility" and "the classified part.") Davis: "I saw the evidence, and it's stark!" (If Davis saw close-up photos that showed details of beings that looked like Reptilians and Mantids, I'd say that qualifies as stark!) Back to what Fox said... Fox: "Then, what Mr. Grusch revealed to all of us, what he had seen with his own eyes, left the room speechless. It drew the oxygen out of the room. I looked at everybody in that room, and their eyeballs were popping out. My jaw was on the floor. Like, I simply couldn't believe what he'd seen with his own eyes." (I think what caused that reaction was Grusch describing seeing close-up photos of different types of non-human beings. Maybe.) However, Fox also said this: "...if you can imagine, if you know about 'Moment of Contact,' that involves captured non-human intelligent beings (This is the Varginha, Brazil case. ~Joe). Think about that for a minute. Think about that case. I heard it out of his mouth, and I can tell you, I was in the room." (The biggest CLAIM in that film and from that case is that a live, non-human being was captured and that Dr. Italo saw video of it, and then stood next to it for a few minutes when it was in the hospital, in a bed, being cared for by another doctor. Did Grusch say he saw evidence (photos or videos) of a live being that appeared to be non-human? Joe Rogan asked him that in his November 2023 interview... Grusch: "Once you realize the phenomenon's real, then you realize we've recovered artifacts and, you know, biologics or, you know, dead pilots, if you will, even though it's kind of creepy to think about in your world view. You don't think they were ever, you know, alive sometimes, too, right? And I'll leave it at that, only because, you know, that is something the President and his cabinet need to disclose this in a controlled manner." (He was either hinting that he's seen them alive or that them being alive and on this planet is a huge deal and not his responsibility to announce. I think it's the latter.) Rogan: "Are there discussions of interactions with live beings?" Grusch: "Uhh, there was some water-cooler talk about that kind of thing." Rogan: "But that's it?" Grusch: "But, you know, I don't even wanna get into it because it's like, uh, there was some details provided to me but it's like, it's secondary and I don't know if that's like, the telephone game and I don't know if it was hyperbolized in any way...um, you know, in the break room, so to speak. So I just... I'm so anal about making sure what I say is accurate...I don't, you know, I don't know." (Based on what he said there, it seems like he has NOT seen any evidence of live beings. If he now comes out and says that he has, it will seem like a flip flop. So, I'm gonna go with Grusch said he saw photos of non-human bodies and they were of the different types/species that Dr. Eric Davis referenced. One more flashback to what Davis said in that public, congressional briefing in May of 2025.) Davis: "It's not that they're Reptilian or Insectoid, it's that they resemble, to the participant, a reptile, or insect type." (That sounds like someone who has seen exactly what they look like, via photos.) Final point... "Examine biological evidence of living or deceased non-human intelligence." ~Burlison Proposed Legislation (That language was in the original UAPD Disclosure Act co-sponsored by Senators Schumer and Rounds, and four other senators. Why put that language in there if you haven't heard credible reports of living or deceased (bodies) non-human intelligence? Are there stories of living, non-humans on this planet? Yes, and I'll leave you with one of them.) ) (Just to make it clear: I think Grusch will say that he saw clear photos of different types of non-human bodies and some looked like reptiles and others looked like insects. It would be amazing to hear Grusch say he saw video or film of living beings, but I don't expect that. However...this still bothers me... Would Grusch describing seeing photos of craft and different kinds of dead aliens leave veteran-of-the-UFO-field, James Fox, with his jaw on the floor? I guess we're gonna see. And hopefully soon.)
Joe Murgia204,314 views • 2 months ago
![👽 New Davis: They're in Control 🔥 "The NHIs are not gonna really let [Trump] go the full monty on Disclosure. The phenomenon seems to be in control over the human forces on Earth." ~Dr. Eric Davis (Obvious, Davis is speculating here. I've always downplayed when Davis said the release of info. is driven by the phenomenon, but UAP Juan thought it meant more. Juan was right.) ~ Alan Steinfeld: "The release of information is driven strictly by the [Phenomenon] itself." Dr. Eric Davis: "Exactly." Steinfeld:: "Well, what does that mean? The [Phenomenon] is directing the action, or responsible...? Can you explain what that means to...?" Davis: "I don't know how to explain that. All I know is that the evidence appears that the phenomenon seems to be in control over the human forces on Earth. They're our government, our contractors, other governments, to... It seems to be some sort of control system, and [Vallée has} always called it an intelligent control system, and he correctly has done so because we observed that in action on the ranch for the five or six years I was working for Bigelow, and it is an intelligent control system. "It's just...I think it doesn't want the human... I'm guessing it doesn't want the human race knowing what it is, where it comes from, and why it's really here. And what its agenda is. That's the thing you're asking. We don't know the agenda. But, obviously, it does play a role in preventing... I think it's gonna prevent disclosure. "I gave Trump less than 10% of a chance of success [at full Disclosure]. I actually wrote less than 1%, and I thought, well, maybe I better give him a little slack. And I thought, a factor of 10 more slack, taking it from less than 1% to less than 10% was more than fair and accurate. "I think that's because, I'm thinking in the back of my mind that the NHIs are not gonna really let him go the full monty on Disclosure. They're going to pull the strings, however they pull the strings, to prevent Trump from going the full monty. [You'll have] human forces on [the] inside that are gonna work against it, and then you're gonna have the intelligent-control system working on the outside, that's gonna work against it."](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2097705643230613925/amplify_video_thumb/2097701045086699520/img/fXWa2bQLDjSI02ti.jpg)
👽 New Davis: They're in Control 🔥 "The NHIs are not gonna really let [Trump] go the full monty on Disclosure. The phenomenon seems to be in control over the human forces on Earth." ~Dr. Eric Davis (Obvious, Davis is speculating here. I've always downplayed when Davis said the release of info. is driven by the phenomenon, but UAP Juan thought it meant more. Juan was right.) ~ Alan Steinfeld: "The release of information is driven strictly by the [Phenomenon] itself." Dr. Eric Davis: "Exactly." Steinfeld:: "Well, what does that mean? The [Phenomenon] is directing the action, or responsible...? Can you explain what that means to...?" Davis: "I don't know how to explain that. All I know is that the evidence appears that the phenomenon seems to be in control over the human forces on Earth. They're our government, our contractors, other governments, to... It seems to be some sort of control system, and [Vallée has} always called it an intelligent control system, and he correctly has done so because we observed that in action on the ranch for the five or six years I was working for Bigelow, and it is an intelligent control system. "It's just...I think it doesn't want the human... I'm guessing it doesn't want the human race knowing what it is, where it comes from, and why it's really here. And what its agenda is. That's the thing you're asking. We don't know the agenda. But, obviously, it does play a role in preventing... I think it's gonna prevent disclosure. "I gave Trump less than 10% of a chance of success [at full Disclosure]. I actually wrote less than 1%, and I thought, well, maybe I better give him a little slack. And I thought, a factor of 10 more slack, taking it from less than 1% to less than 10% was more than fair and accurate. "I think that's because, I'm thinking in the back of my mind that the NHIs are not gonna really let him go the full monty on Disclosure. They're going to pull the strings, however they pull the strings, to prevent Trump from going the full monty. [You'll have] human forces on [the] inside that are gonna work against it, and then you're gonna have the intelligent-control system working on the outside, that's gonna work against it."
Joe Murgia13,850 views • 4 days ago
!["Triangles are a result of reverse engineering and sometimes piloted by 'them' and other times piloted by 'us AND them.'" 👽🤝👨🏻 Agreements, and Humans Working Alongside Non-Humans? 🛸▽👽 (This is relatively interesting, and I think you guys are going to like it. It's a little bit long. First, Matt on with Jesse and the clip below.) Matthew Brown (Matthew): "At this point in time, it's possible that, you know, the United States and others have some sort of derivative technology that looks like the big, black triangle, right? There's that famous NIDS study done in the, I think, late '90s or early 2000s where they correlate triangle sightings to naval bases in the United States." ~Lacatski!~ (I can't write about triangles without including the words of Dr. James Lacatski on Weaponized, with George Knapp and Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell. Lacatski ran the AAWSAP UFO program for the DIA.) Corbell: "We hear about all these people on military bases seeing triangles, and you're doing this study, AAWSAP, to try to figure out the physics of how to do that. Do you think it's already been achieved by the U.S. government, or it hasn't, and that's why AAWSAP had a lot of value." Lacatski: "It hasn't been achieved to its full extent." ~D'Amato~ Dick D'Amato was a longtime (18 years) senior staffer for Senate Democratic Leader Robert C. Byrd of West Virginia.) "Dick D'Amato has returned from Belgium where he met with Colonel De Brouwer, a 'very interesting fellow.' Dick’s conclusion, again, is that the triangular objects are very plain human craft. ~Jacques Vallée's Forbidden Science Volume 4 - November 1992 ~ Brown: "So either, what's going on is, you know, there's some sort of recurring exchange or...and use of our facilities by whatever is piloting these big black triangles. Or, we have some sort of derivative technology ourselves that operate from these bases. "Jeff Nuccetelli (Jeff Nuccetelli) also described, you know, a big , black triangle coming out of the Pacific Ocean, flying into Vandenberg, basically hovering over the runway at Vandenberg Air Force Base and then disappearing." ~ Nuccetelli at the Congressional Hearing: "I talked to five shaken witnesses who described a massive triangular craft, larger than a football field, that hovered silently for about 45 seconds over their entry-control point before shooting away at impossible speed." ~ Jesse Michels - Jesse Michels: "Dylan Borland, also at Langley in 2012." Brown: "Exactly." ~ Dylan Borland at the Congressional Hearing: "At approximately 01 30, I saw an, approximately, 100-foot equilateral triangle take off from near the NASA hangar on the base." ~ Michels: "He sees this triangular craft, seemingly, kind of come out of, or maybe it was hovering around a NASA hangar at the Air Force base, and then it flies at his head. And then it flies off." ~My Tweet from October 2025~~~ Daniel Gockerell on Weaponized, and My Comments 2006, Eglin AFB... Murgia 2025: "This sounds similar to what Dylan Borland says he saw at Langley AFB. If this stuff is so secret, why do they seem so lax in allowing others, who are not cleared, to see it? "If this craft exists... "Is it ours, that we developed own our own? "Is it craft that we constructed and reverse engineered, based, in part, on technology of unknown origin that we have acquired? "Is it a craft of unknown origin that we acquired and learned how to fly? "Are 'they' working with us and showing us how to fly 'their' craft?" ~ Daniel Gockerell: "I step outside, and I look to my left...and I see hovering, about 15 to 20 feet off the ground, this giant, maybe 300 or so feet in length (size of a football field. ~Joe), aircraft. "This just goes straight up and it's dead quiet, nothing, not a sound. I could hear the buzzing from the generator lights, right? So, this gets about to the canopy, like, height, a little over the canopy, and does a slight bank, and takes off. "This aircraft, when it banks, I can see that it's a perfect triangle, and it's gigantic, and it has a white light at each apex of the triangle and a large, white light in the center. And it takes off, and it zips out of sight. I mean, Mach something we don't know." Full transcript and video clip... ~End Gockerell Transcript~ (And let's not forgot my friend, Michael Via, who says he saw a "majestic," silent black triangle in 1992 in the Persian Gulf. Watch him talk about it here. ⬇️) ~ Brown: "Yeah, I'd be pretty freaked out if that happened to me. Yeah, so, you know, these are all examples of the United States having some sort of relationship with these craft, whether it's our own, gifted tech, or truly a third party, can only speculate. But, you know, I have some good guesses." Michels: "What's your best guess?" Brown: "That there is an exchange or some sort of arrangement with whatever is piloting the black triangles that are not ours? I believe we do have a derivative version at this point, but that is, again, derived from the real thing. And the real thing, there is some sort of ongoing contact and communication, clearly, not just the United States, but other governments as well. That's my opinion." (An agreement between some aspect of our government and an anomalous intelligence that flies the triangles that are NOT our reverse engineered craft? Are there multiple governments in contact with a non-human intelligence and working side-by-side with "them"?) Michels: "And when it flies in the vicinity, there's like, some sort of download that occurs. There's like a transmission of information." Brown: "That's what some people have reported. Again, I did not come across official information. Well, I did not come across information on that in the Immaculate-Constellation briefing." (In other words, Brown is suggesting that he may have come across information about that from sources other than the Immaculate Constellation files.) Michels: "Okay, all right. We'll read between the lines there." ~ (Murgia 2026: Now the interesting part. Does anybody remember when I shared this from Jeremy McGowan? I have posts about it that go back to 2021. This one is from 2024 and I edited it very lightly for grammar and clarity.) Murgia 2024: "A few years ago, in some private group, [Jeremy McGowan] said he was at Lue's place in Wyoming. "Someone shared his comments with me and here they are..." McGowan: "From Lue's mouth to my face while I was at his place for a week back in January [of 2021]. Lue (allegedly): "We know who's in the saucers. We know who is in the triangles. We don't have a clue who is in the Tic Tacs." (I asked a source about that and they said the information (in those three sentences) was accurate. But there's no evidence to back it up so, as with everything here, remain skeptical. More on what Lue allegedly told McGowan in 2021... 👇🏼 ) Q from a Group DM: "So saucers and triangles are terrestrial and Tic Tac aren't?" McGowan: "Not exactly. Saucers are 'ultra-terrestrial.' Triangles are a result of reverse engineering and sometimes piloted by 'them' and other times piloted by 'us AND them.' And the Tic Tacs are a complete enigma." ~ Murgia 2024: "Are triangular UFOs sometimes piloted by us and them, with them being NHI? Do some NHI work alongside us in classified programs? I don't know." ~End 2024 Tweet~ (Murgia 2026: That source who told me those first three sentences were accurate? They backed down from that a year or so later. Did they misunderstand what I was originally asking? Or, did they realize they shouldn't have shared that with me because it was "sensitive" and they wanted to do some damage control? I don't know. I also put out a long tweet a few years ago about OG remote viewer, Lyn Buchanan, talking about seeing what he thought were non-humans working alongside humans.) Buchanan: "I'm 𝑠𝑎𝑦𝑖𝑛𝑔 that I have seen extraterrestrials working 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ humans in black op areas. In human, black op areas." You can read the full post here: ~ (Murgia 2026: Here are the names of folks who have spoken about possible agreements between human governments and a non-human intelligence, and/or...Us working with "Them." David Grusch Lue Elizondo (allegedly, since it's second hand) Dylan Borland Matthew Brown Lenval Logan - Try.ThePhenom.App (A month or so ago, on a podcast, he said someone told him to look into "agreements," but he didn't say who told him.) Lyn Buchanan And, a contact of mine who brought it up out of the blue a few months ago. It caught me off guard. 👀 Several years ago, in an interview with Project Unity, Sean Cahill (who was there when McGowan spent time at Lue's in 2021) was asked about the "we-know-who's-in-the-saucers" claim. He said, "That's bullsh*t... That is the outline of a fiction story." I'm not so sure. One more thing: I asked Lue about it when he did a Clubhouse event in July of 2021.) Murgia: "If we believe that the Mussolini craft retrieval took place, we may have data from 90 years ago, all the way until now. Is it valid speculation that we know who's inside of some of these craft? And I know you may not be able to answer that. But if this information is classified, like, who's in the saucers, who's inside the triangles, why would that be classified? It's not sources and methods." Lue: "Exactly right. That's my concern. You can only classify information to protect sources and methods, and you cannot...it's illegal to classify information just because something is embarrassing." (I tried again. 🙂) Murgia: "Do we have any idea who's inside some of these craft?" Lue: "Uhh, you know, I prefer not to answer that question right now simply because, umm, I don't have a good response for that. I think we've got a lot of ideas, and I think there's a lot of anecdotal information out there, but at the end of the day, we still don't know entirely what we're dealing with and that's problematic." (We'd all like to know how Brown and the others came to form these opinions about Us and "Them." Did the alleged comments from Lue in 2021 have anything to do with it? Did any of them read about that? Is any of this true? Again, I don't know. But if it IS, I'd say it would constitute a BOMBSHELL. And I rarely use that (overused) word.)](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2094684600530612451/amplify_video_thumb/2094612914275807232/img/ZFaAC5u3EJ3TN779.jpg)
"Triangles are a result of reverse engineering and sometimes piloted by 'them' and other times piloted by 'us AND them.'" 👽🤝👨🏻 Agreements, and Humans Working Alongside Non-Humans? 🛸▽👽 (This is relatively interesting, and I think you guys are going to like it. It's a little bit long. First, Matt on with Jesse and the clip below.) Matthew Brown (Matthew): "At this point in time, it's possible that, you know, the United States and others have some sort of derivative technology that looks like the big, black triangle, right? There's that famous NIDS study done in the, I think, late '90s or early 2000s where they correlate triangle sightings to naval bases in the United States." ~Lacatski!~ (I can't write about triangles without including the words of Dr. James Lacatski on Weaponized, with George Knapp and Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell. Lacatski ran the AAWSAP UFO program for the DIA.) Corbell: "We hear about all these people on military bases seeing triangles, and you're doing this study, AAWSAP, to try to figure out the physics of how to do that. Do you think it's already been achieved by the U.S. government, or it hasn't, and that's why AAWSAP had a lot of value." Lacatski: "It hasn't been achieved to its full extent." ~D'Amato~ Dick D'Amato was a longtime (18 years) senior staffer for Senate Democratic Leader Robert C. Byrd of West Virginia.) "Dick D'Amato has returned from Belgium where he met with Colonel De Brouwer, a 'very interesting fellow.' Dick’s conclusion, again, is that the triangular objects are very plain human craft. ~Jacques Vallée's Forbidden Science Volume 4 - November 1992 ~ Brown: "So either, what's going on is, you know, there's some sort of recurring exchange or...and use of our facilities by whatever is piloting these big black triangles. Or, we have some sort of derivative technology ourselves that operate from these bases. "Jeff Nuccetelli (Jeff Nuccetelli) also described, you know, a big , black triangle coming out of the Pacific Ocean, flying into Vandenberg, basically hovering over the runway at Vandenberg Air Force Base and then disappearing." ~ Nuccetelli at the Congressional Hearing: "I talked to five shaken witnesses who described a massive triangular craft, larger than a football field, that hovered silently for about 45 seconds over their entry-control point before shooting away at impossible speed." ~ Jesse Michels - Jesse Michels: "Dylan Borland, also at Langley in 2012." Brown: "Exactly." ~ Dylan Borland at the Congressional Hearing: "At approximately 01 30, I saw an, approximately, 100-foot equilateral triangle take off from near the NASA hangar on the base." ~ Michels: "He sees this triangular craft, seemingly, kind of come out of, or maybe it was hovering around a NASA hangar at the Air Force base, and then it flies at his head. And then it flies off." ~My Tweet from October 2025~~~ Daniel Gockerell on Weaponized, and My Comments 2006, Eglin AFB... Murgia 2025: "This sounds similar to what Dylan Borland says he saw at Langley AFB. If this stuff is so secret, why do they seem so lax in allowing others, who are not cleared, to see it? "If this craft exists... "Is it ours, that we developed own our own? "Is it craft that we constructed and reverse engineered, based, in part, on technology of unknown origin that we have acquired? "Is it a craft of unknown origin that we acquired and learned how to fly? "Are 'they' working with us and showing us how to fly 'their' craft?" ~ Daniel Gockerell: "I step outside, and I look to my left...and I see hovering, about 15 to 20 feet off the ground, this giant, maybe 300 or so feet in length (size of a football field. ~Joe), aircraft. "This just goes straight up and it's dead quiet, nothing, not a sound. I could hear the buzzing from the generator lights, right? So, this gets about to the canopy, like, height, a little over the canopy, and does a slight bank, and takes off. "This aircraft, when it banks, I can see that it's a perfect triangle, and it's gigantic, and it has a white light at each apex of the triangle and a large, white light in the center. And it takes off, and it zips out of sight. I mean, Mach something we don't know." Full transcript and video clip... ~End Gockerell Transcript~ (And let's not forgot my friend, Michael Via, who says he saw a "majestic," silent black triangle in 1992 in the Persian Gulf. Watch him talk about it here. ⬇️) ~ Brown: "Yeah, I'd be pretty freaked out if that happened to me. Yeah, so, you know, these are all examples of the United States having some sort of relationship with these craft, whether it's our own, gifted tech, or truly a third party, can only speculate. But, you know, I have some good guesses." Michels: "What's your best guess?" Brown: "That there is an exchange or some sort of arrangement with whatever is piloting the black triangles that are not ours? I believe we do have a derivative version at this point, but that is, again, derived from the real thing. And the real thing, there is some sort of ongoing contact and communication, clearly, not just the United States, but other governments as well. That's my opinion." (An agreement between some aspect of our government and an anomalous intelligence that flies the triangles that are NOT our reverse engineered craft? Are there multiple governments in contact with a non-human intelligence and working side-by-side with "them"?) Michels: "And when it flies in the vicinity, there's like, some sort of download that occurs. There's like a transmission of information." Brown: "That's what some people have reported. Again, I did not come across official information. Well, I did not come across information on that in the Immaculate-Constellation briefing." (In other words, Brown is suggesting that he may have come across information about that from sources other than the Immaculate Constellation files.) Michels: "Okay, all right. We'll read between the lines there." ~ (Murgia 2026: Now the interesting part. Does anybody remember when I shared this from Jeremy McGowan? I have posts about it that go back to 2021. This one is from 2024 and I edited it very lightly for grammar and clarity.) Murgia 2024: "A few years ago, in some private group, [Jeremy McGowan] said he was at Lue's place in Wyoming. "Someone shared his comments with me and here they are..." McGowan: "From Lue's mouth to my face while I was at his place for a week back in January [of 2021]. Lue (allegedly): "We know who's in the saucers. We know who is in the triangles. We don't have a clue who is in the Tic Tacs." (I asked a source about that and they said the information (in those three sentences) was accurate. But there's no evidence to back it up so, as with everything here, remain skeptical. More on what Lue allegedly told McGowan in 2021... 👇🏼 ) Q from a Group DM: "So saucers and triangles are terrestrial and Tic Tac aren't?" McGowan: "Not exactly. Saucers are 'ultra-terrestrial.' Triangles are a result of reverse engineering and sometimes piloted by 'them' and other times piloted by 'us AND them.' And the Tic Tacs are a complete enigma." ~ Murgia 2024: "Are triangular UFOs sometimes piloted by us and them, with them being NHI? Do some NHI work alongside us in classified programs? I don't know." ~End 2024 Tweet~ (Murgia 2026: That source who told me those first three sentences were accurate? They backed down from that a year or so later. Did they misunderstand what I was originally asking? Or, did they realize they shouldn't have shared that with me because it was "sensitive" and they wanted to do some damage control? I don't know. I also put out a long tweet a few years ago about OG remote viewer, Lyn Buchanan, talking about seeing what he thought were non-humans working alongside humans.) Buchanan: "I'm 𝑠𝑎𝑦𝑖𝑛𝑔 that I have seen extraterrestrials working 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ humans in black op areas. In human, black op areas." You can read the full post here: ~ (Murgia 2026: Here are the names of folks who have spoken about possible agreements between human governments and a non-human intelligence, and/or...Us working with "Them." David Grusch Lue Elizondo (allegedly, since it's second hand) Dylan Borland Matthew Brown Lenval Logan - Try.ThePhenom.App (A month or so ago, on a podcast, he said someone told him to look into "agreements," but he didn't say who told him.) Lyn Buchanan And, a contact of mine who brought it up out of the blue a few months ago. It caught me off guard. 👀 Several years ago, in an interview with Project Unity, Sean Cahill (who was there when McGowan spent time at Lue's in 2021) was asked about the "we-know-who's-in-the-saucers" claim. He said, "That's bullsh*t... That is the outline of a fiction story." I'm not so sure. One more thing: I asked Lue about it when he did a Clubhouse event in July of 2021.) Murgia: "If we believe that the Mussolini craft retrieval took place, we may have data from 90 years ago, all the way until now. Is it valid speculation that we know who's inside of some of these craft? And I know you may not be able to answer that. But if this information is classified, like, who's in the saucers, who's inside the triangles, why would that be classified? It's not sources and methods." Lue: "Exactly right. That's my concern. You can only classify information to protect sources and methods, and you cannot...it's illegal to classify information just because something is embarrassing." (I tried again. 🙂) Murgia: "Do we have any idea who's inside some of these craft?" Lue: "Uhh, you know, I prefer not to answer that question right now simply because, umm, I don't have a good response for that. I think we've got a lot of ideas, and I think there's a lot of anecdotal information out there, but at the end of the day, we still don't know entirely what we're dealing with and that's problematic." (We'd all like to know how Brown and the others came to form these opinions about Us and "Them." Did the alleged comments from Lue in 2021 have anything to do with it? Did any of them read about that? Is any of this true? Again, I don't know. But if it IS, I'd say it would constitute a BOMBSHELL. And I rarely use that (overused) word.)
Joe Murgia39,007 views • 12 days ago
🇮🇱 🇺🇸 New Bigelow 👩🏻🚀🛸 "We had three Israeli spies in our aerospace company. Seven of our telephones were bugged, including mine...in locked offices. The FBI was involved. After about a month and a half...I said, 'I have to terminate these people.'" ~Robert Bigelow
Joe Murgia75,248 views • 26 days ago
"You are so lucky. You could have been killed. You don't know who those guys are?" ☢️🛸 The Day We Almost Lost George Knapp But Also Lured a UFO 🛸☢️ (I doubt you'll see anybody show you this video and make the connection to what Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell said today on Weaponized. And we have a new claim: The guys who could have (in theory) killed George Knapp allegedly lured a UFO (or UFOs), just by doing their job that day.) How to Lure a UFO: "Weapons or nuclear fuel being moved around." Corbell Today: "You used to chase those armored nuclear vehicles in Las Vegas, and I got a call from one of the drivers who said, 'Oh, when George Knapp was going behind us and did that news report, it completely changed our protocols of what we had to do. It rewrote the manual.' "But you had heard about these trucks and about how moving them, these nukes, would sometimes create or stimulate a UAP response. This individual that called me to complain to me about you, affirmed that to me." ~ (When I interviewed Lue Elizondo in March of 2022, we had this exchange...) Murgia: "Baiting and luring UFOs. You mentioned it on 𝗖𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗧𝗜𝗡𝗔 𝗚𝗢𝗠𝗘𝗭' show...how you successfully did that in AATIP. "Somebody I know, a source, said, 'The way we attract and coax UAP has to do with nuclear power; nuclear weapon sites; deployed weapons; weapons or nuclear fuel being moved around; weapons being manufactured; nuclear fuel being manufactured; and manufacturing sites...and that attracts them.' To me, that sounds like AI. It seems like it's reacting to something automatically." Lue: "Your friend seems to be very well informed." Watch the story... ⬇️⬇️⬇️
Joe Murgia29,681 views • 10 days ago
!["[UFO Disclosure will] be a little uncomfortable. There'll be some truths that [will] be a hard pill to swallow." ~Grusch New David Grusch: "There's truly anonymous signatures in the skies [and] the U.S. government understands it represents a form of sentient, non-human intelligence. I know that sounds very Star Trek, a la, you know, Gene Roddenberry and Rod's dad's Sci-Fi series, but it is true. "And I want, you know, the American public to be comforted that the Universe is teeming with life, it seems, and readily able to be explored. And the U.S. government does have a lot of information that I think will inspire Gen Alpha and Gen Z and the American populace at large. And it will be a new era. "It'll be a little uncomfortable. There'll be some truths that [will] be a hard pill to swallow, but I think it's, ultimately, a good thing to get this out there. And I think the people of the world and the American public will be very happy to understand their place in the Universe, so to speak. Without sounding too much like Carl Sagan."](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2048141373950541976/amplify_video_thumb/2048139865410473984/img/8eIQzPT9VoO8Uc1p.jpg)
"[UFO Disclosure will] be a little uncomfortable. There'll be some truths that [will] be a hard pill to swallow." ~Grusch New David Grusch: "There's truly anonymous signatures in the skies [and] the U.S. government understands it represents a form of sentient, non-human intelligence. I know that sounds very Star Trek, a la, you know, Gene Roddenberry and Rod's dad's Sci-Fi series, but it is true. "And I want, you know, the American public to be comforted that the Universe is teeming with life, it seems, and readily able to be explored. And the U.S. government does have a lot of information that I think will inspire Gen Alpha and Gen Z and the American populace at large. And it will be a new era. "It'll be a little uncomfortable. There'll be some truths that [will] be a hard pill to swallow, but I think it's, ultimately, a good thing to get this out there. And I think the people of the world and the American public will be very happy to understand their place in the Universe, so to speak. Without sounding too much like Carl Sagan."
Joe Murgia335,113 views • 4 months ago
😵💫 Grusch: The U.S. Government is Aware of Non-Human, Corporeal-Bipedal, and...Sentient-Plasmoid Life 😬 Real America's Voice (RAV): "Can you confirm for us, how many species? Recent reports have said that there are perhaps four different alien species: Grays, Nordics How many species are you aware of?" David Grusch: "I certainly don't have the compendium. It's a continuum from corporeal-bipedal type life to, you know, what I would consider is like, sentient-plasmoid life. But there are there are several that the U.S. government is aware of."
Joe Murgia224,589 views • 3 months ago