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Day time artist and night time AI enthusiast/cybersecurity. Building & benchmarking frontier LLMs on 4x DGX Spark + Mac. Creator of Vesica Studio. Houston

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Qwen 3.8 27b nvfp4 vs Grok 4.6 Someone tell me how this local model that is 100x smaller and 10x slower made a better animation?! Elon Musk help us solve this, both with their highest thinking mode (xhigh vs max)

Qwen 3.8 27b nvfp4 vs Grok 4.6 Someone tell me how this local model that is 100x smaller and 10x slower made a better animation?! Elon Musk help us solve this, both with their highest thinking mode (xhigh vs max)

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Day-0 Qwen3.8-27B vs Qwen3.6-27B: the voxel pagoda test. Same prompt, one attempt each, single DGX Spark, both NVFP4. 3.8: 75,291 tok · 52m 56s · 23.7 tok/s (vLLM, native MTP) 3.6: 12,117 tok · 5m 13s · 38.8 tok/s (llama.cpp, DFlash K10) 3.8 thought for 160K characters before writing a line of code.

Day-0 Qwen3.8-27B vs Qwen3.6-27B: the voxel pagoda test. Same prompt, one attempt each, single DGX Spark, both NVFP4. 3.8: 75,291 tok · 52m 56s · 23.7 tok/s (vLLM, native MTP) 3.6: 12,117 tok · 5m 13s · 38.8 tok/s (llama.cpp, DFlash K10) 3.8 thought for 160K characters before writing a line of code.

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Two models. One DGX Spark One identical voxel Eiffel Tower prompt. Qwen3.8-27B xhigh: 83K tokens, 41m29s, 33.4 tok/s Ornith 1.5 35B-A3B: 47K tokens, 10m35s, 74.0 tok/s Thinking on, no token ceiling, matched camera. Ornith finished much faster; Qwen spent far more tokens.

Two models. One DGX Spark One identical voxel Eiffel Tower prompt. Qwen3.8-27B xhigh: 83K tokens, 41m29s, 33.4 tok/s Ornith 1.5 35B-A3B: 47K tokens, 10m35s, 74.0 tok/s Thinking on, no token ceiling, matched camera. Ornith finished much faster; Qwen spent far more tokens.

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Local showdown: Qwen vs Deepseek fireworks one-shot: "build a fireworks show over a city, single HTML file, no libraries." two locals on DGX Sparks, temp 0.6, one attempt, no edits. DeepSeek-V4-Flash (2x GB10): 1m20s, 5,214 tokens, Qwen3.8-27B NVFP4 (1x GB10, xhigh): thought for 21 minutes before typing one character of the answer. 38,269 tokens total, ~29K of them thinking

Local showdown: Qwen vs Deepseek fireworks one-shot: "build a fireworks show over a city, single HTML file, no libraries." two locals on DGX Sparks, temp 0.6, one attempt, no edits. DeepSeek-V4-Flash (2x GB10): 1m20s, 5,214 tokens, Qwen3.8-27B NVFP4 (1x GB10, xhigh): thought for 21 minutes before typing one character of the answer. 38,269 tokens total, ~29K of them thinking

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4 DGX Sparks running DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 6 concurrent sessions, 170.73 tok/s coding throughput. 🔥 1,200 output tokens in 7.028 seconds. Warm single-stream: 💻 Code: 77.61 tok/s 🧮 Math: 74.08 🧠 Reasoning: 48.75 ✍️ Prose: 33.02 6-stream aggregate: 💻 Code: 170.73 tok/s 🔢 Counting: 291.64 tok/s 552B MoE · MXFP4 · TP4 · vLLM + DSpark + CUDA graphs ✅ Tool calling + vision ✅ 127,480-token retrieval test passed ✅ 300K configured context Video replays the actual recorded streams at 1× speed. Thinking OFF, 200-token cap per coding request. Short-prompt coding throughput Credit to Tech2Wild for the Boot9 recipe. NVIDIA AI

4 DGX Sparks running DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 6 concurrent sessions, 170.73 tok/s coding throughput. 🔥 1,200 output tokens in 7.028 seconds. Warm single-stream: 💻 Code: 77.61 tok/s 🧮 Math: 74.08 🧠 Reasoning: 48.75 ✍️ Prose: 33.02 6-stream aggregate: 💻 Code: 170.73 tok/s 🔢 Counting: 291.64 tok/s 552B MoE · MXFP4 · TP4 · vLLM + DSpark + CUDA graphs ✅ Tool calling + vision ✅ 127,480-token retrieval test passed ✅ 300K configured context Video replays the actual recorded streams at 1× speed. Thinking OFF, 200-token cap per coding request. Short-prompt coding throughput Credit to Tech2Wild for the Boot9 recipe. NVIDIA AI

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Got Aleph Alpha's new Kolibri 1 running on a single DGX Spark the day it came out. Their container is x86 only, so I built vLLM 0.29.0 (arm64) + their aleph-alpha-inference plugin. FP8 weights (74 GB) and an FP8 KV cache, 164K context. The FP8 kernels worked on GB10 even though torch doesn't list sm_121. Speed: 48 tok/s solo, 157 tok/s with 8 streams, 5.2K tok/s prompt read. Then I gave it the pagoda prompt 👇 Kolibri 1, 5 tries, thinking on: 3 blank pages from THREE.OrbitControls used the old way 1 blank page, Three.js never loaded 1 runs: floating cubes 👇 Qwen3.6 27B: first try, 12K tokens. Qwen3.8 27B: first try, 75K.

Got Aleph Alpha's new Kolibri 1 running on a single DGX Spark the day it came out. Their container is x86 only, so I built vLLM 0.29.0 (arm64) + their aleph-alpha-inference plugin. FP8 weights (74 GB) and an FP8 KV cache, 164K context. The FP8 kernels worked on GB10 even though torch doesn't list sm_121. Speed: 48 tok/s solo, 157 tok/s with 8 streams, 5.2K tok/s prompt read. Then I gave it the pagoda prompt 👇 Kolibri 1, 5 tries, thinking on: 3 blank pages from THREE.OrbitControls used the old way 1 blank page, Three.js never loaded 1 runs: floating cubes 👇 Qwen3.6 27B: first try, 12K tokens. Qwen3.8 27B: first try, 75K.

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Local models on the left. Cloud models on the right. I asked Qwen-flash-next, DeepSeek-v4.1, Fable-5.1 and Astra-6 to build an interactive volcanic island with flowing lava and boats that flee. In my opinion deepseek was the winner, and fable the disappointment Try each island yourself: Qwen · Mac Studio DeepSeek · 4× DGX Spark Fable · Cloud Astra · Cloud

Local models on the left. Cloud models on the right. I asked Qwen-flash-next, DeepSeek-v4.1, Fable-5.1 and Astra-6 to build an interactive volcanic island with flowing lava and boats that flee. In my opinion deepseek was the winner, and fable the disappointment Try each island yourself: Qwen · Mac Studio DeepSeek · 4× DGX Spark Fable · Cloud Astra · Cloud

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Qwen3.6-27B dense quality ladder. Same tasks. Same grader. Same day. How much does compression cost? FP8 - 83.3 · 29GB NVFP4 - 83.0 · ~15GB BF16 - 81.9 · 56GB GPTQ-Pro - 79.4 · 13GB IQ2_XXS - 79.0 · 9.4GB Who wins where: 🥇 Raw quality → FP8 (83.3) 🥇 Practical default → NVFP4 (83.0 at ~15GB) 🥈 Full precision → BF16 is NOT better (81.9) ❌ "Just use any 4-bit" → GPTQ-Pro loses 3.6 pts vs NVFP4 🛟 Emergency tiny → IQ2 still holds at 79.0 Overall winner: If you care about the absolute number: FP8 If you care about running it on a real box: NVFP4 is the overall pick. Same quality class as full precision. Half the size of FP8. ~4× smaller than BF16.

Qwen3.6-27B dense quality ladder. Same tasks. Same grader. Same day. How much does compression cost? FP8 - 83.3 · 29GB NVFP4 - 83.0 · ~15GB BF16 - 81.9 · 56GB GPTQ-Pro - 79.4 · 13GB IQ2_XXS - 79.0 · 9.4GB Who wins where: 🥇 Raw quality → FP8 (83.3) 🥇 Practical default → NVFP4 (83.0 at ~15GB) 🥈 Full precision → BF16 is NOT better (81.9) ❌ "Just use any 4-bit" → GPTQ-Pro loses 3.6 pts vs NVFP4 🛟 Emergency tiny → IQ2 still holds at 79.0 Overall winner: If you care about the absolute number: FP8 If you care about running it on a real box: NVFP4 is the overall pick. Same quality class as full precision. Half the size of FP8. ~4× smaller than BF16.

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This is the worst model I have ever tested, even 9b models outperform it. What even is this pagoda? Same prompt I always use. - Total time: 9 min 21 s (560.9s) - Tokens: 6,891 completion (710 reasoning + ~6,181 answer) | 84 prompt - Speed: ~12.3 tok/s end-to-end - First token: 0.15s - Output: 22,094 chars answer / 17.2KB HTML, natural stop (finish_reason=stop, no cap hit)

This is the worst model I have ever tested, even 9b models outperform it. What even is this pagoda? Same prompt I always use. - Total time: 9 min 21 s (560.9s) - Tokens: 6,891 completion (710 reasoning + ~6,181 answer) | 84 prompt - Speed: ~12.3 tok/s end-to-end - First token: 0.15s - Output: 22,094 chars answer / 17.2KB HTML, natural stop (finish_reason=stop, no cap hit)

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