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NEW POD vitalik.eth on the greenpill.network podcast for a year-end deep dive into public goods funding in the Ethereum ecosystem. Thx Devansh Mehta for co-hosting. We discuss how the landscape has shifted from “vibes-based” funding to verifiable, dependency-driven mechanisms, and why this is the best moment to reform PGF using new tools like programmable cryptography, AI-assisted evaluation, and deep funding models. Vitalik shares how he thinks about dependencies, credible neutrality, open-source licensing, pluralism, accountability, ethereum localism, and what builders should prioritize in the coming year. 00:00 – Welcome to the Greenpill Podcast 01:50 – Vitalik joins: why public goods funding matters 02:19 – Why PGF is essential for decentralization 04:18 – The crypto spirit: censorship resistance, institutional design & funding 06:42 – The shift from vibes-era PGF to verifiable mechanisms 08:25 – Why 2026 is the best moment to reform PGF 10:19 – Where does PGF money actually come from? 12:45 – Open-source licensing, taxes & funding dependencies 17:34 – “Fund your dependencies” as a stable mechanism 19:35 – Why general-purpose QF doesn’t work in a chaotic world 21:59 – Bottom-up vs top-down: polycentric PGF 25:29 – How to create accountability loops in public goods 27:22 – Funding open-source as an Ethereum priority 29:31 – Privacy as a public good & why it’s upstream of PGF 31:54 – What OSS developers really think about crypto 33:52 – Mixing social outreach with financial support 35:56 – What should PGF builders focus on in 2026? 38:13 – Work with new projects, not legacy ones 39:44 – Ecosystem cycles & “layers of sediment” 41:39 – Yield-based funding (Octant) & treasury strategies 43:40 – Accountability: from vibes to rigorous mechanisms 47:35 – Motivation, feedback & the psychology of public goods 50:43 – Profit sharing licenses & sustainable PGF pools 53:46 – Security, issuance & public goods 56:12 – Technology, democracy & long-term risks 58:31 – How PGF relates to DIAC (Defensive/Decentralized Acceleration) 01:00:05 – Solving the free-rider problem without coercion 01:02:12 – Mechanisms vs coercion: credible neutrality 01:04:16 – Institutions, power & capture risks 01:06:16 – Individuals vs institutions in PGF 01:08:41 – Why PGF is more error-tolerant than governance 01:11:01 – Pluralism: many funders, many mechanisms 01:13:14 – Why diversity of funders is healthy 01:15:17 – What Vitalik wants built next 01:17:12 – Ethereum localism & real-world experiments 01:19:28 – What success in PGF looks like by end of 2026 01:24:28 – Closing thoughts

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NEW! vitalik.eth joins the greenpill.network podcast today to talk about Web3 Public Goods Funding in 2025. This episode is part 1 of a 2 part series. In ep 1 we discuss: TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Intro 2:18 - Why Public Goods? 03:17- Private vs. Public Goods 05:20 - Challenges of Funding Public Goods 06:13 - Intrinsic Motivation and Public Goods 07:16 - Funding Models for Public Goods 09:18 - Digital Ecosystem and Public Goods 10:12 - Revenue Curve and Public Goods 11:36 - Decentralization vs. Domination 13:05 - Competitive Advantage of Public Goods 15:01 - Resilience Through Public Goods 17:07 - Broader Impact of Ethereum 19:18 - Escape Velocity Theory 19:51 - Importance of Public Goods 21:31 - Diversity in Funding Entities 23:44 - Challenges in Funding Public Goods 26:02 - Scaling Funding Needs 27:04 - Hybrid Funding Models 29:09 - Institutionalizing Funding 31:00 - Layer Two Solutions 31:59 - Importance of Scaling Funding 34:00 - Moralism in Ecosystem Dynamics 36:22 - Quality Allocation of Funding 37:26 - Diversity of Funding Mechanisms 39:34 - Stability in Funding Mechanisms 41:09 - Prediction Markets for Public Goods 42:27 - Info Finance Concept 44:36 - Distilled Human Judgment Mechanism 46:52 - Governance as a Lego Concept 47:58 - Forking Protocol Guild 50:54 - Discussion on Ethereum Critique 51:57 - Auto Public Goods Funding 53:11 - Tokenization and Open Source Funding 53:49 - Evaluating Funding Mechanisms 54:48 - Finding High Leverage Projects 56:19 - Challenges in Distribution 57:32 - Public Goods Funding in 2025 59:36 - Outro

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2025 = the year of AI Agents x DAOS x Onchain Capital Allocation NEW greenpill.network podcast: Today, I'm joined by Shaw jin from ai16zdao to talk about AI Agents. How we use them to allocate capital in DAOs? To route information? To accelerate movements? To solve coordination failure? Timestamps for ez navigation 🫡 00:00 - Intro & focusing on DAOs and the intersection of AI agents. 01:00 - AI Agents and Their Impact 02:03 - The Evolution of the Internet 07:52 - Defining AI Agents 09:40 - Reducing Friction in Information Sharing 11:56 - Building a Movement, Not a Cult 14:15 - The Cathedral and the Bazaar Metaphor 16:04 - Using AI for Coordination 17:49 - Reducing Information Siloing 18:39 - Common Tools Across Organizations 19:31 - Open Sourcing Solutions 20:07 - Capital Allocation Challenges 20:55 - AI and Capital Allocation Intersection 21:50 - Human Oversight in Funding 22:48 - Continuous Retroactive Funding 24:42 - Creating a Supportive Culture 25:06 - Feedback Loops for Builders 26:09 - Reducing Overhead in Funding 26:36 - Acknowledging Non-Coding Contributions 27:58 - Chat Summarization Tool 28:34 - Profiles and Social Capital 29:00 - Marketplace of AI Agents 29:46 - Layered AI Systems 32:42 -Human Oversight in AI 34:39 - Feedback Loops in Development 37:01- Documentation and Community Engagement 38:12 - Self-Documenting Code 40:20 - Accelerated Idea Generation 45:03 - Circle of AI Champions 46:32 - Infinite Backrooms Concept 47:48 - Personal Infinite Backroom Ideas 49:23 - Concerns About Backrooms and Information Hiding 51:23 - Infinite Backrooms Concept 53:35 - Implementers and Skill Sharing 54:40 - Vision for the Future 56:39 - Concerns About UBI Implementation 57:56 - Community Income as a Solution 58:14 - A Hope for Self-Sufficiency and AI 59:36 - Outro

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New greenpill.network pod today with @thedevanshmehta about Deep Funding, a new AI-powered funding mechanism that combines human evaluation and prediction markets to allocate resources for open-source projects. Topics: 1. how Deep Funding scales human judgment, 2. prevents Sybil attacks, 3. and creates a fair, dynamic “price feed” for public goods. 4. Devansh shares insights from the pilot run, the results of the data-science competition, and how the model will power Gitcoin Grants 24 #GG24 Timestamps: 00:00 – Intro: Welcome to the Greenpill Podcast – exploring tech, coordination & Protopia 00:45 – Introducing guest Devansh Mehta, AI & Public Goods Lead at the Ethereum Foundation 01:20 – What is Deep Funding and why it matters 02:00 – How Deep Funding scales human evaluations with AI models 02:45 – Overview of the pilot run and what was tested 03:20 – How the mechanism works: human jurors + model builders 04:30 – The White Hat Sybil attack and what it revealed 05:40 – How Deep Funding integrates data science competitions and prediction markets 06:50 – Results of the pilot: weighted funding for 45 open-source repos 07:30 – Creating a credibly neutral funding system with unequal weights 08:40 – Comparing Deep Funding with Protocol Guild and other mechanisms 09:20 – Building a strong community of AI developers and human jurors 10:30 – The role of jurors and models in fair evaluation 11:10 – What’s next: expanding to 90 repos in Gitcoin Grants 24 (GG24) 11:50 – Funding pool: $350K from Ethereum Foundation & Gitcoin 12:30 – Challenges of distributing capital efficiently and fairly 13:20 – Moving to GitHub repo-level governance: who controls the funds? 14:40 – Two models of spending: splits contracts vs counterfactual wallets 15:40 – Lessons from past Gitcoin funding rounds 16:20 – Why Deep Funding focuses on units of work, not organizations 17:20 – Avoiding distortions and improving fairness in funding 18:10 – The vision: creating a live price feed for public goods 19:10 – How prediction markets price open-source value 20:30 – Self-correcting market behavior and real-time adjustments 21:20 – Subsidies and liquidity: bootstrapping active participation 22:10 – Balancing liquidity levels to prevent manipulation 23:00 – What’s next for Deep Funding: refining future iterations 23:40 – Shoutout to the model builders and competition winners 24:20 – Where to learn more: & 25:00 – Closing: the future of AI, governance, and funding what matters If you’re curious about the intersection of AI, governance, and funding public goods, this conversation is for you. And participate in GG24 at

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