1/13 Another day, another T-14 myth batch from someone clearly misinformed and biased, another thread to make. Starting from the parade, no the T-14 did not break down in 2015, it drove away on its own after a brief embarassing show. And its engine isn't based on a german engine.

2/ When on that faithful parade in 2015, one of the T-14 tanks, stopped dead in its tracks, it was quite a nightmare in terms of image, it broke down! Many shouted. Russians tried to even play it off by making a "tank evacuation" showcase, but the vehicle, wasn't broken.

3/ What really happened was that the emergency brake got engaged by the stressed driver, and he didn't knew how to turn it off. This is why the tank wasn't budging when the ARV tried to haul it off, it simply wouldn't let it.

4/ Not until an UVZ driver came to the tank and released the break at least, because once he came the tank drove off on its own power, as if nothing has ever happened, as can be seen in this very video.

5/ So with that claim done, lets go onto another one. "2V12-3A was built in the 70s based off of a german tank engine" First of all, this has already been debunked thoroughly by my friend RedEffect, who did excellent job explaining its history: (link in comment)

6/ But to hammer the point here, aside the same layout aka X, and amount of cylinders in the 16 cylinder variant (A85-3A aka 2V12-3A as the name suggest is 12 cylinder engine) this engine has barely anything in common with the Simmering SLA-16 engine.

7/ The first definitive proof it has nothing to do with it? Completely different master rods and crankshafts, SLA-16 has 4 master rods connected to one pin on the crank, every cylinder has its own, while the 2V12 have 2 cylinders attached to a V shaped rod for every pin

8/ Due to this, they have different crankshafts that allow for their unique attachment systems to work in each of the engines.

8/ This results in a different arrangement of cylinder bores, as in SLA-16 they are all alligned in single planes, while in 2V12, they are staggered, showing quite clearly, that they are completely different engines that have nothing to do with eachother. But let's go further.

9/ Probably the biggest proof that these engines aren't related... is the fact that SLA-16 is air cooled, while A85-3A is liquid cooled, requiring a completely different approach to how the engine is designed in the first place and what it priotizies.

10/ Due to these differences SLA-16 takes much more space, and has to design the engine bay area around the air flow, while A85-3A can remain very compact with little wasted space, tho admittedly, due to its X shaped nature, it still had some overheating issues which got resolved

11/ There is also the claim of "few videos in training grounds showing they broke down" which is just bogus. Admittedly, im not an alpha and omega, so i might've missed them, but im pretty sure various T-14 haters would parade them around if they existed in quantites of "few" :)

12/ Tho user Mac Wolf, did get that one detail right that 2V family started its design lineage in the 1970s. So congrats!

13/EOT So to conclude, no T-14 did not break down during 2015 Victory Parade, nor did it break down multiple times on video in different places (tho if you can really provide such vids hit me up) and no it doesn't have a german based/copied engine. That's that i guess, for now.

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Lazerpig and his retarded takes did an irrepairable damage to the Armata discussion, many of which may never be eradicated. Because it's a low hanging fruit to use them other imbeciles will always repeat those like a brain damaged parrot. I hate this with every fiber of my being

engine based on german engine.. That's a very lazerpig things to do there.. XD

This T-14 shit gets serious, I’m tired of the ridiculous slander

It’s gets annoying as these people even when caught by their hand still refuse to admit they were wrong. But thankfully people around see this and learn, so thats an upside.

Its really a shame one of the biggest tank YouTuber is a dude that let his silly bias run his mouth constantly To such a point that even professional archive diggers like Moran eventually had to speak up about it against his own will and care

Well, the other problem is that LazerPig's knowledge is also pretty much nonexistant, guy built his image of being "le funny" "sarcastic" "historian" (which is double funny, cuz he just calls himself a historian without actual education or credentials that allows such title)

Wątek sztos jak zwykle, ale co w końcu się stało z silnikiem Armaty?

A co się miało stać? Nic, został dopracowany i tyle.

A 12TW373 nie został czasem anulowany razem z całą rodziną silników nowej generacji? 🤔 Bo A-85-3A mial rzekomo być rozwiązaniem tymczasowym ze względu na niższe niż pożądane osiągi.

Został ale historia jest na odwrót, 12TW373 czyli Czajka była silnikiem zapasowym. A85-3A miało być rozwiązaniem docelowym ale bano się ChTZ że nie podoła, więc dali zadanie Barnaulowi by zrobił kompaktową Vkę ale nie podołał a problemy z tym silnikiem jakoś net przelał na 2V12

O kurde, jaki zwrot akcji. Cieszę się, że są takie konta jak Twoje, bo czytajac jakies altairy i defence24 dalej tkwil bym w błędzie. Kiedys pasjami czytalem co pisali damian18 na nfow, do rus czolgow gurkhana i andreibt, ale od wojny maja własną wojenke uwz vs charkow

Dzięki za takie miłe słowa. Cóż co do gurkhana czy tarasenki, jeden że tak powiem dziadzieje i już tylko siedzi na VK a drugi siedzi w swojej wieży otoczony adoratorami i miłością do KMDB. Niezbyt to poważne no ale tak to jest. Ogólnie dochodzi do dużej degradacji 1/

Z innej beczki się pochwalę że krytyk sztuki wielbiący Morozowa ma mnie zablokowanego (i vice versa) bo śmiałem repostować to co wrzucał bez jego watermarków i podając skąd to jest xD

its not even that LP was wrong, but that he insisted that his incorrect statements were true and fought tooth & nail trying to discredit those who called out his bullshit.

I mean, if he was just wrong and just admitted "damn i was wrong" there would never be a drama and the infamy that he gained from it, but aside being wrong and doing what you said, he also just made shit up on the topic, which was much worse than just being wrong.

"tanky" is such a retarded "slur". its like calling a dog walker a barkbark or something of equivalent idiocy.

That's another interesting thing, pig and his cultist just use the slur incorrectly, by definition it applies to people who support totalitarian communist regimes, that opress people, and subjugate em with force. It makes no sense to use it against simple tank enthusiasts.

Wait are you telling me that the fat gay Australian YouTuber was wrong?!?!? 🥺

Well pig is scottish but he has some australian lackey that’s called history of everything i think? (He couldn’t even properly get into a T-72 and squatted in it to make shit up about it)