3.01.01 Frame Data Changes Guide

+5 -> -9 is great to see but also it does just kinda make me think like "what are we doing here?" lol Like, what were they thinking when they made those moves +5 in the first place? How do you get into a position where a move goes from significantly plus to forfeiting your turn?

these numbers are so ridiculous, why are double digit plus frames the standard when tracking is already magnetic ‘+11 to +7’ ‘+15 to +10’ how about no double digits if we block a move

Can someone help me understand how +15 to +10 makes any actual difference? It’s still too plus for any real counterplay no?

Thank god that bitch clive can finally be punished from spamming his bs sword.

I can not fucking believe what these frames were before.

@verseJohn316 good patch but lidia still having double digit plus frames dont sit right with me

@ChariotsLand MORE NERFS!!

Clive is dead but King is still running the ranked streets like El Chapo. Makes no sense.

i still dont understand they know to make some shit -9 but leave others plus at all like dawg

fuck you mean bryan’s demon paw is punishable now???

Clive animations are terrible. Visual garbage

I feel like i’m genuinely insane how does frame data work to this day I don’t get it

@2dJazz For the asuka one, it changed in her install not her normal one, so when she has install, it’s now +7 rather than +11. The normal one is still the same at +5 I believe

Crazy work

@ayaseina Poor Clive they killed him 🥲

Haven't played T8 in a long time now, but the Clive nerfs hurt

@EDGE_1223 Clive and Lidia nerfs

@ArslanAsh95 Amazing block stun tho

I mean good but some shit still seems too plus

@2dJazz seeing this as a fan of tekken who’s just waiting for tekken to go back to its original formula* these changes are straight up nothing burgers smh, sucks that ppl like me have literally wait for the next installment to actually see weather their gonna lock in or not

I find it interesting that the game is getting much better after Harada left. Or are they finally following through with his intentions and him leaving was their wake up call?

@ArslanAsh95 These are nonsense.

So Lidia is still plus…

lidia's numbers are so funny

@___dcho___ Thanks so much Great idol Buff Sama & NAMCO Staff's

@Devilster07 Okay so where are the king nerfs?

That armor king strong was obnoxious af. A lot of these moves were. Much needed nerfs. I wouldn’t be mad if they reverted lees HMS f2 buffs too. He barely got touched this patch

+5 but that much closer is a buff for xia

@KingRaze13 @Montjoie_sD

Lidia +10 for no reason

Okay but like. How can we genuinely justify a move being +5 in the first place when it gets nerfed to -9

@PBeef2Spicy If it’s +2 why the pushback for hae2?😭

These nerfs look so much better and bigger than they actually are Dw! Its going from +100 onb, to only +25!!! Brother if youre going from "i cant do anything" to "i cant do anything but atleast RA doesnt lose to a frame trap" then its barely a nerf imo