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A quick look into remote persistent sessions with Superlogical! Not just remote sessions, but some functionality like remote directory lists, too. Superlogical can actually be a full SSH replacement (I don't run SSH on my servers anymore), and I talk about that briefly, too.

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vogel 的头像
vogel9 天前

woah this is actually crazy i didn’t realize this was essentially an ssh replacement this is insane

Mitchell Hashimoto 的头像
Mitchell Hashimoto9 天前

Yep, many things yet to be revealed, but it is (can be) a full SSH replacement. The architecture to enable that safely is pretty fun and I can't wait to talk about it. But, imagine every SSH connection is persistent forever, multiplayer, more resilient to poor networks, supports more than just terminals, etc. etc. etc. Also, agents, oh the agents!

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ily⚡️9 天前

Holy fuck i really need this please drop soon

Moral Priest 🌱Ⓥ ₿ 的头像
Moral Priest 🌱Ⓥ ₿9 天前

Does it use Google QUIC?

Mitchell Hashimoto 的头像
Mitchell Hashimoto9 天前

Yep. Although we have a fallback to some easier-to-adopt protocols if needed.

Dinislam Tebuev 的头像
Dinislam Tebuev9 天前

@MoralPriest every round trip matters

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Moral Priest 🌱Ⓥ ₿9 天前

@mitchellh Sick, was looking at a SSH client with QUIC a few days back

wolfie 的头像
wolfie9 天前

if you ever need beta testers 👉👉

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searching for good name9 天前

Sorry to ask again and again, How does it compare to herdr? Iam currently using it? do we have any benchmarks comparing to herdr? I really like your work, one of your tweets on why speed should be a primitive changed my view on few things

anderson 的头像
anderson9 天前

remote go to dir 🤯

Mitchell Hashimoto 的头像
Mitchell Hashimoto9 天前

but wait, there's more! but yes, its very cool!

Niccolò Banti 的头像
Niccolò Banti9 天前

Dropping SSH entirely is the part I'd want to see stress tested. SSH's failure modes are boring and well understood after thirty years. What's the recovery path when the persistent session layer itself breaks and you're locked out of a box with no fallback daemon running?

Nafiz 的头像
Nafiz9 天前

Maybe pasting image over ssh next? ;)

Oskar Wickström 的头像
Oskar Wickström8 天前

Now I'm curious how you test all this!

Chirag 的头像
Chirag8 天前

Nice. I have something on those lines. But for the browser. Try: Repo: Would love your feedback.

Aryan 的头像
Aryan9 天前

Hey, hand me the beta version I can't wait anymore!

Karl 的头像
Karl9 天前

Any thoughts around mosh or similar? One thing I've found is I'm going back to mosh when connecting to my machine from my phone when remote - will this replace mosh eventually?

Mitchell Hashimoto 的头像
Mitchell Hashimoto9 天前

I talk about it in the video

Daniel Dosen 的头像
Daniel Dosen9 天前

Is cut copy paste across machines just as easy?

Mitchell Hashimoto 的头像
Mitchell Hashimoto9 天前

Wait for a follow up demo. :)

Dmitry S 的头像
Dmitry S9 天前

covers all my tmux + ssh use cases. the only nit is that i'd add a feature to make UI more minimalistic (drop liquid glass)

Mitchell Hashimoto 的头像
Mitchell Hashimoto9 天前

Exists

ByShovel 的头像
ByShovel9 天前

a tool that replaces ssh and also lists directories is exactly the kind of small sharp thing that makes you wonder why ssh was doing half the stuff it was doing.

Nicolas Joseph 的头像
Nicolas Joseph9 天前

@sudomateo Hey @Tailscale would be great to have tailscale be natively compatible with superlogical when it comes out. Like you do for ssh

Tommaso Bruno 的头像
Tommaso Bruno9 天前

will you provide a flake/home-manager package with overrides to setup remote machine/sessions (not sure if it's viable)

Chris Johnson 的头像
Chris Johnson8 天前

@adamhjk @mitchellh I have saved the video. I love this idea. When is GA?

Ike Victor 的头像
Ike Victor9 天前

when is this thing coming out?? lol would love to test it :)

Sma 的头像
Sma9 天前

God I love responsive interfaces. I’ve been craving something like this for ages

Martin Zajíc 的头像
Martin Zajíc8 天前

Building something similar "no ui" deamon to manage agentic session across machines

Barry Tzakala 的头像
Barry Tzakala9 天前

wen release?

noamalffasy 的头像
noamalffasy9 天前

Does it share the same keyboard shortcuts as tmux?

Farid Zakaria 的头像
Farid Zakaria7 天前

Cool to see NixOS ☺️

Wazz 的头像
Wazz9 天前

will this replace my termius multi server ssh + tmux ? can we try? Will you make it windows compatible too?

Noam Lewis 的头像
Noam Lewis9 天前

Fresh does this - its File Explorer and all file reads and editing happens efficiently over the remote, fetching only the visible, loaded data instead of large files. It uses SSH as a transport channel, but runs its own protocol through it.

Javier Canizalez 的头像
Javier Canizalez8 天前

Which side owns the screen on reconnect client state sync or server pty replay?

nobbo 的头像
nobbo9 天前

Are you planning to implement port-forwarding to access e.g. webservers listening on remote servers?

dbosky 的头像
dbosky8 天前

@mitchellh when alpha access will be available?

fabrico 的头像
fabrico9 天前

what was the limitation that made you not go with ssh?

Mitchell Hashimoto 的头像
Mitchell Hashimoto9 天前

To be clear you can also use superlogical directly over ssh. There are a spectrum of options here. But by replacing SSH directly we get full pam-respecting authenticated/authorized logins with persistent sessions behind it. The transport is also way more resilient to bad internet connections and latency.

mbravo 的头像
mbravo9 天前

@demfabris has it been independently audited on, you know, security aspects? filling ssh boots is a bit of a tall order

Mitchell Hashimoto 的头像
Mitchell Hashimoto9 天前

@demfabris It will be but not yet since it’s not close to release yet. But check my background, I built some of the most security sensitive tooling out there, probably protecting a ton of your PII right now :)

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venu bondugula8 天前

@mitchellh At this point, looks like the shell is the only piece left to complete the stack 😄

Neil Chudleigh 的头像
Neil Chudleigh9 天前

really awesome

CodeMonument 的头像
CodeMonument8 天前

yeeeees, i can't await this!

Brian Scott 的头像
Brian Scott9 天前

When will this be released :) really digging the clean behavior and aesthetic

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