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According to Highway Code - Rule 182 - I had priority in this situation, but should I have carried on or stopped? The driver appeared to have stopped to let the other car through then waited for a while to allow me through, however, I chose to wait.
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You displayed some common courtesy. The driver turning right was holding up traffic. By virtue of the driver turning left letting them cross, the traffic was released. It caused minimal delays to all.

Why post this? What has it proved? It shows Road users both Bi-Cycling & driving showing common courtesy & common sense? Are you saying you were a victim? Road craft should be learned by every users & I know for FACT both sides have users with none whatsoever!

Indecisive riding or driving causes most accidents !

I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure.

I’d have carried on cautiously past both turning drivers. It’s important to affirm priority otherwise the opposite gets ingrained

done that perfectly well. the highway code says what the highway code says, but your own safety matters more. as a pedestrian crossing a side road i’ll wait until the car has gone by because i’m being responsible for my own safety - my right of way or not

The grey car wanted to turn left, but stopped as you were in the cycle lane. You stopped. However, the the other car assumed everyone was stopped to let him/her do the turn. At 0:11. He was still waiting for you. He assumed you are still waiting, so took the turn.

i think that was a good move. made it clear that you were letting them go. looks like they had checked. everyone wins.

To be far that is a dangerous rule. From my cycling proficiency tests through motorbike, car and HGV tests I was always taught that passing on the nearside was deadly. Most car drivers wouldn't expect a bike to pass there and most lorry drivers wouldn't see you yhere

Priority be damned, I'd have stopped, much as you did, was clear the car turning left was doing so, & I'd already have had to slow/stop for the one turning right who may or may not have seen me. Difference between you & me, is I'd not have given it a second thought, or posted.

In NL you might even get a 'godverdomme man!' for not going through as a cyclist. The level of paranoia about knocking cyclists over by drivers in NL is high. And thats a good thing!

depends, if you like hospital food unfortunatley

When I was last in hospital, the food was very nice

Quite right to wait, as the Highway Code makes clear.

Nothing happens

Disappointed?

No

@4ChordsNoNet This is simple social negotiation in action. When I was a commuting cyclist the biggest problem I had was that it was never safe for me to start that negotiation.

@4ChordsNoNet When i’m on 2 wheels i do all i can to look out for my safety

I'd have likely done the same. However, in a similar situation when I cycle in Austria I wouldn't stop. All cars are exceptionally well behaved and all would stop, and cyclists have 100% confidence they will do so.

My opinion is you were wise to hold back, for the primary reason that the right-turner may have been filled with confidence that their passage was clear because another driver had allowed them to proceed.

you should've held your copy of the Highway Code up for all to see then ploughed on through.

You can claim the priority or right of way or the moral high ground from a hospital bed just as much as from a mobile. People can & will behave like dicks which will put you in danger. Also there are bullies You need to stay alive above all else...

Both of you are Hesitant, yes you should have stopped (I would) they gave you plenty of notice they are turning, plus he had already commented to letting the other driver through so yes you should stop too .. Common sense out rules everything, simple really

Its a non event, everyone held back & politely went about their day

You should have stopped because everyone has a duty of care to take reasonable measures to avoid crashes. And both drivers should get points on their licence or bans.

You acted correctly. You have priority but not right of way. All road users; drivers, cyclists, small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri, should try to anticipate the actions of others, and be prepared to stop, as you did here. Everyone makes mistakes, everyone.

you had priority but did the right thing and let the junction clear. The main error the driver made was overtaking you, knowing they were turning left, they should have held back. Had you gone straight on there was a potential collision with the driver turning into the junction.

Sensible. You both had situational awareness. Yes there was a bit of hesitancy but so what. It just meant you knew what each others intentions were. Being in the right doesn’t always make you right. And ploughing through because it’s your right of way may have got you run over.

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By holding back you reduced the inherent risk of an accident. Good foresight I think.

Do this all the time , the odd time I see they are clearly waiting for me to I acknowledge them with a thanks as I go past , but most of the time I let them turn first whilst covering brakes

You didn’t put your ego above your common sense, live long and prosper 🖖🏻

I think I’d have probably taken the priority that the drivers both apparently were ceding to you, but as you in turn were giving it back they each took it. I don’t get the sense that either were bullying. Both just went *after* you declined to exercise your priority

For me you did best thing. You have the right to keep going but going on the hesitation of the driver to make a decision you were better to wait.

Your hesitation probably caused just as much confusion.

Stopping was fine. What many do not understand is most laws do not prevent those insistent on criminal intent and those who are oblivious to the situation causing harm. The law simply sorts out liability afterwards. The Dutch Model prevents bad driving more than any laws

Highway code is about cutting in, not starting turn then stopping. Driver was clear of you when turning in started, you rode into zone. Regardless of right for that, stopping was correct; car angle meant you may have been blind spotted. Good defensive riding. Their angling poor.

TBH your steel clad overlords gave you no choice, no change there then.

I think it's unwise to cycle into the blind spot of a turning vehicle. The US law got it right, along with allowing filtering on red.

The driver had right of way over the first turning drive, courtesy given. You had right of way over them, courtesy given. Sounds like a good interaction all round?
