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Are bitcoiners underestimating the quantum computing threat? In this Unchained episode, Justin Drake and Chris Peikert join me to unpack: 🤖 The quantum computing risk to crypto 🤫 How governments may be the dark horse in the quantum race 👀 Why Bitcoin and Ethereum may need to collaborate on...

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Paul Quintin Cross8 ay önce

@Unchained_pod @drakefjustin @ChrisPeikert My base case: We enter the Q-Day pricing window within the next 24 months. Not because keys break overnight — but because probability shifts get priced early. Waiting for certainty is not a strategy. Positioning before consensus is.

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Ramie9118 ay önce

@Unchained_pod @drakefjustin @ChrisPeikert Bitcoiners take on quantum

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Minotaurus Presale $MTAUR8 ay önce

@Unchained_pod @drakefjustin @ChrisPeikert the quantum race is wild thinking about govs being in there too makes it spicy not sure how real the threat is yet but gotta keep an eye on it

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BigNobody8 ay önce

@Unchained_pod @drakefjustin @ChrisPeikert The more posts on quantum risk for crypto in general the bigger the incentive for crypto teams to take it seriously, so let's go...

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ALGO_BRO8 ay önce

@Unchained_pod @drakefjustin @ChrisPeikert Great episode Laura, Chris and Justin !! It’s great to see Algorand and Ethereum putting so much effort into Quantum Resistance. 🫡

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Thư🌊8 ay önce

@Unchained_pod @drakefjustin @ChrisPeikert Yeah this is a real risk honestly

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Specktacular.eth 🦇🔊 + 🧬8 ay önce

@Unchained_pod @drakefjustin @ChrisPeikert .@PeteyK - as you and others on the @OGTripleMedia Sunday show had been wondering… This is a great introduction to the cryptography behind and the possible quantum security ahead 🎧

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Crypto Made Simple | Beginner Guide8 ay önce

@Unchained_pod @drakefjustin @ChrisPeikert Important conversation 👀 Quantum risk may not be immediate, but ignoring it would be a mistake. Post-quantum upgrades and cross-ecosystem collaboration could become essential sooner than people think. #Bitcoin #Ethereum #Crypto

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Allxanderbell7 ay önce

@Unchained_pod @drakefjustin @ChrisPeikert bitcoiners always late to the party sir 😭 quantum gonna flip the table before they even read the paper kkk

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mia8 ay önce

@Unchained_pod @drakefjustin @ChrisPeikert Quantum threats are real, but solutions are actively being developed.

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Amy K McNamara8 ay önce

@Unchained_pod @drakefjustin @ChrisPeikert Obv

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Maja (Maya) Vujinovic8 ay önce

Where is credible evidence that machine learning changes the underlying math behind modern cryptography? What AI does do: It does exploit bad implementations it also accelerate phishing and credential theft or it does h elp find side-channel leaks That’s not breaking crypto. That’s breaking poorly secured systems and corporates are slow yes but I get it selling “fear” does increase likes / follows. lol The real long-term threat to public-key cryptography is quantum computing sure not AI …which is why NIST finalized post-quantum standards in 2024 and governments are already migrating… would be good to hear from the real experts.

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レクトクロトン8 ay önce

@Unchained_pod @drakefjustin @ChrisPeikert Quantum mechanics is turning into unnecessary fear-mongering online. Not because it’s inherently scary, but because most loud voices completely misunderstand the theory, current hardware limits, and — above all — the actual laws of physics.

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ethereanbull.eth8 ay önce

@Unchained_pod @drakefjustin @ChrisPeikert wouldn't they have to estimate something, in order to underestimate it?

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