As Morpheus said in The Matrix, there is a difference between knowing the path and walking it. Knowing the future does not preclude free will from choosing the action that brings that future to pass. The only problem I see with this explanation is the 5th dimension, in which... all the choices we have made and will make exist. Think like all the possibilities exist all at once. This is further backed by the double slit test. The results depended on the observation of the test, or the lack thereof, in which the waves produced acted differently when observed v. unobserved.show more

It’s like what Neal in the Tenet movie said: Protagonist: Can we change things if we do it differently? Neal: What’s happened, happened. Which is an expression of faith in the mechanics of the world. It’s not an excuse to do nothing.

It is incorrect to conclude that we don't have free will, because unlike the fictional timelines described in the clip, our future does not yet exist, and, due to Heisenburg uncertainty, it cannot be fully predicted even with all possible information about the present universe.

My understanding of why we have free will, but God can also see everything is because like we may think even individually that what we’re doing is surprising to us or oh I just imagined this out of the blue and I’m deciding to do it, but God is like advanced advanced AI Superintelligence, which is no disrespect to God because it’s so small in comparison to him, but he knows everything we’ve ever been everything we are today and it’s not like it’s not like a probability, but it is formula when we think oh I’m gonna change direction in my life it’s because of a creation of events and circumstances emotions, and whatever that’s delta to this point that we make this change and to us that is free will no one‘s directing us to do anything, but God knows what we’re gonna do because of the data set. It’s not that he put it out there beforehand it’s just that and we see this too. It’s like we know very basically that there’s strong habits in our lives or the lives of someone else that we were watching and we know that we could kind of predict what they’re going to do next now where we can be surprised where they decide to break the habit and go back-and-forth for a bit or whatever and then they changed. God‘s not surprised by that it’s an creation of things that eat, even us individually were not wise enough to know all the little the subconscious thoughts that we’ve had all the dreams all the fire rings of our brain waves, etc. neurons circumstances, indirect direct communication all of this stuff. God’s God has a perfect understanding of all that when we don’t even have a understanding of ourselves even on a day-to-day basis, that is my understanding of God being omniscient and our having a free will

Also the future doesn’t exist yet… you still have self control, you can still choose to the right thing every time… Only now exists, when you travel the astravedic (I totally spelled this wrong lol) plane you are connected to all knowledge and that includes conscious possibilities that could happen. You always have free will.

Wait, this feels like a strawman because one of these conjectures is that either God can see and knows my future or God doesn’t know my future, but there’s no third option of saying there is no deity. I have physical control of what is immediately in my physical reach.

The fact that the existence of free will is debated proves that one of the two positions is incorrect iykyk

The perfect movie that depicts all possibilities that exist all at once.

@grok, frame this through Active Inference.

I’m always fascinated by this part: the observer — and everything changes. And yet the observer isn’t even making a request or demanding a particular outcome. The observer asks for nothing and doesn’t specify the result. No observer — there is one process. An observer appears — and we get a different result. That, to me, is far more interesting than any discussion about the future and free will. 🤔

Love this one🤯

So, Calvinism?

It's called the illusion of free will. You experience life as if you freely choose. That’s the illusion. The brain starts moving before “you” notice. Genes,physics and etc already set the path. Consciousness just narrates and claims credit. The feeling is real. The freedom isn’t.

nice

These are some of the shallowest arguments. I thought it was satire at first.

I miss Cracked

Sometimes there is nothing you can do but wait and help those around you. Patience is a requirement 😉

“Future”? Why do people believe that it’s called the space-time continuum? Look up the definition of “continuum”. Seriously.