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Behold: Beatdown (legally distinct) I've been experimenting with a combo extender for RUSH. The goal would be to explore the potential of an extender to greatly open up juggle utility/routing. Already, I have this system balanced to highly favor shorter combos #TEKKEN #gamedev

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Alcratz 的头像
Alcratz6 个月前

I'm trying simple but aggressive damage and knockback scaling, which means your best damage would come from a brief juggle that spends your Beatdown early on. The high damage route in the clip deals 81dmg (~40% HP). For comparison, Standing 2 into clean-hit 3 deals 70dmg

Alcratz 的头像
Alcratz6 个月前

There still aren't a ton of moves to work with, but from my observations so far, there's already a fair amount of variety in routing and juggle length if you wanna optimize for damage VS wall carry VS oki, which is obviously what we like to see

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Alcratz6 个月前

Part of what I'm exploring is the idea of having your first Beatdown in a juggle inflict a hard knockdown, which you can follow up on for unscaled damage with the right timing. So, your max-est damage may technically be just a couple hits into Beatdown, then a run-up clean-hit 3

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Alcratz6 个月前

But, I'm also toying with restoring oldschool float-able back recovery, which a player could actually use to reduce damage in this case. Bc of a quirk with how this is programmed, an instant back recover won't reset juggle scaling, so it could protect you from damage *and* resets

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Alcratz6 个月前

If I roll w/ this, it means the mindgame is between eating a grounded hit VS being open to pressure if the opp anticipates your back recover. Not too potent for the attacker, interesting decisions for both players. I could be wrong, though, maybe this will be the worst thing ever

Bread (パン) 的头像
Bread (パン)6 个月前

We are straying from Gods pass of "back-to-basics"

Alcratz 的头像
Alcratz6 个月前

T8 unironically casts an immeasurable shadow of dogshit over anything of this sort, but hopefully I can prove to peeps that combos can actually be snappy and healthy, when designed by someone who gives a shit

Bread (パン) 的头像
Bread (パン)6 个月前

You're good fam. Love seeing what you're doing, keep up the good work <3

sayouri 的头像
sayouri6 个月前

My man is making t6 goddamnn go champ

5th Gear Josie 的头像
5th Gear Josie6 个月前

@r4m4nn00dl1zzMR You are doing great work mate. Imagine if the Tekken 8 devs were as passionate as you are for this project. I support you 100%

Nathan Ortiz 的头像
Nathan Ortiz6 个月前

I kinda like this game without juggles, but this looks cool. I also like the old school feel of juggles before bound was introduced in Tekken 6.

Alcratz 的头像
Alcratz6 个月前

I've been back and forth on this stuff, but I think a bound has too much potential /not/ to try to explore it. At the very least, in the short term, I wanna make sure there's a quality build available w/o and of this new stuff

Sulfoxide (sariel) 的头像
Sulfoxide (sariel)6 个月前

Snare hit sounds.

Alcratz 的头像
Alcratz6 个月前

Uh huh

Sulfoxide (sariel) 的头像
Sulfoxide (sariel)6 个月前

Small drum solo's when you preform specific combos... (joke)

🇺🇸『Cwittz』🪔 的头像
🇺🇸『Cwittz』🪔6 个月前

Have you considered adapting mechanics from 2D fighters into a Tekken game play style? My favorite combo extender is personally is Rapid Cancel in BlazBlue. Separately BB's meter system in a Tekken game would go insanely hard

Alcratz 的头像
Alcratz6 个月前

I'm open to exploring anything tbh, my goal is to emphasize movement and strategy while staying mechanically faithful to Tekken, but this doesn't preclude me from exploring other fighting games for inspiration. I'll have to look into these things

🇺🇸『Cwittz』🪔 的头像
🇺🇸『Cwittz』🪔6 个月前

Excited to see what you cook up

CDDT Reborn 的头像
CDDT Reborn6 个月前

When ur combo system is set give it to some of the combo guys to try and break it. .02

Big Cheeseburger 的头像
Big Cheeseburger6 个月前

Phenomenal work as always. I'm curious to see how that wall situation will turn out👀Keep up the great work!

Alcratz 的头像
Alcratz6 个月前

Ty ty 🎉I've done my homework, and it looks like I'll mainly be drawing from Tekken 5 for wallsplat stuff, and there will eventually be wallbreaks as a catalyst for strategic positioning. I'm pumped to keep working on this stuff

Big Cheeseburger 的头像
Big Cheeseburger6 个月前

I'm wondering how much of an opportunity there is for veering away from some tekken mechanics on this, but i'll leave that magic up to you and whoever you're discussing with - seems like there's quite a bit of stage design to be done regarding that. Very exciting stuff!

FacksMasheen 的头像
FacksMasheen6 个月前

Curious how you feel about the safe df2 question. Been quite a debate lately and I'm wondering if generic red/blue guy will end up with something similar.

SorcererHaki 的头像
SorcererHaki6 个月前

@PhiDXGames Just downloaded this the other day and really enjoying it so far I’m trying to get some friends to download so we can play. I can’t wait to see where this game ends up in the long run.

Trombonator 的头像
Trombonator6 个月前

talking about things far in the future but i hope you'll consider a character with Lee's b2 cancels to have him as a dedicated wall travel monster (also i think most Lee players are kinda upset that bumco basically removed ANY insentive to do b2 cancels in t8)

Ratholos 的头像
Ratholos6 个月前

When are we getting dlc

aephyn_ 的头像
aephyn_6 个月前

Why does it always have to be juggles? just wondering, I think this looks pretty promising

Alcratz 的头像
Alcratz6 个月前

In my case, it's because I like juggles. I wasn't plan on this being the only way of getting big reward, though, I think Tekken is sorely lacking moves that just combo into other shit on-hit. I've got ideas

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Me6 个月前

Maybe it could be a system where you either pick oki or more damage with the bound? Like maybe the final hit on a post-bounded opponent always has hella knock back. I’m not sure if thats what I’m seeing or the knockback scaling up by the # of hits. Either way 300x better than t8!

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caio dias6 个月前

Greetings, Alcatraz ! I just saw your post about Rush, I liked it so much that I'm offering to join the project as a 3D animator. Please consider taking a look at my portfolio on ArtStation. If you want more information, I'm open to any questions !!

Dice Grandmaster Ashy Larry 的头像
Dice Grandmaster Ashy Larry6 个月前

@6weetbix EWGF returns 😈😈😈 tsunami lock would be so sick but I figure if you wanted it there you’d have added it

Tivoli 的头像
Tivoli6 个月前

Please dont add juggle extenders in this game like bound 🥲

Owen CMYK (Blades of Crossed Hearts) 的头像
Owen CMYK (Blades of Crossed Hearts)6 个月前

Could we get the cool spinny animation like Tailspin or Screw pwease 🥺 (idk if that fits, sorry if it doesn't. I just like how it looks)

casa (casaclub) 的头像
casa (casaclub)6 个月前

the way he just launches the opponent without an animation bro got jumpscared by red

DasBarba🇮🇹 的头像
DasBarba🇮🇹6 个月前

Making the extender guarantee a single Attack Is a good trade-off but i'd suggest making moves have directional knockback so that players can send the opponent in different directional (like that Myari Zo move where you can choose left/right).

Alcratz 的头像
Alcratz6 个月前

I don't actually like the Miary Zo thing, it's undercooked IMO and reduces the value of strategic positioning. My focus is on strategy, so my rationale in this case is that getting a favorable angle for your juggle should be a reward for proper footwork leading up to your launch

DasBarba🇮🇹 的头像
DasBarba🇮🇹6 个月前

Yeah, now that you Say It i can see your point. Regarding good movement Is Better than a purpose-made tool. I Agree. With that being said, perhaps making side-step moves more available to the eventual roster could be a good compromise?

𓃭 的头像
𓃭6 个月前

C'est ce qu'on veut sur tekken 8 mais non namco ont décidé de donner encore plus de transitions de stances a tout le monde !!!

2facedlad 的头像
2facedlad6 个月前

Amazing, say are you planning to have a double tap combo. idk what people actually called it. Its like hei's ws1 knockdown, then with a free follow up.

Local Marie Simp 的头像
Local Marie Simp6 个月前

BRO YOUD NEVER BE ABLE TO COMBO ME IN RUSH PATCH 1.0!!!!!

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