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Bessent says Chinese AI will fail because China “won’t turn over enough control.” He seems to have forgotten that many of China’s leading models are open-weight and used around the world — including by Americans. DeepSeek. Qwen. GLM. MiniMax. China is not telling American developers they are forbidden to... download and use them. Meanwhile, American frontier AI is increasingly closed, geofenced and politically rationed. OpenAI does not officially serve mainland China or Hong Kong, and warns that accessing its services from unsupported regions may get your account suspended. Anthropic goes even further: it does not even provide a Chinese-language UI, as if speaking Chinese were a chinese nationality, while restricting Chinese companies — including overseas subsidiaries — and requiring users from unsupported regions such as China to verify their identity or lose access. So remind me again: Who exactly is afraid to give up control? Chinese models are being released for the world to download, deploy and modify. American models increasingly come with a map, a blacklist, a permission system and a kill switch. Apparently “freedom” now means Washington decides who is allowed to use the model.show more

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Iam Noone4 days ago

I almost exclusively use DeepSeek.

Josh Cam4 days ago

This arrogant gay prick thinks he is so clever

dragon king4 days ago

American politician really disgusted me, and talk bullshit treating their citizen like idiots. Any individuals with a brain should be able to tell the facts and truth.

Jim Heath4 days ago

Control? It's open source, download it and you own it. China's AI has won the only thing that matters; the market. Chinese AI tokens get the job done affordably. Because AI can help the People, and should not be held hostage in capitalist cages.

Ju_Jason4 days ago

无人机、电动汽车、光伏，甚至是TikTok ……干不过就禁止销售，事实是谁越来越封闭？

Steven Cheng4 days ago

So much for open source, huh?

Logical Tom4 days ago

He thinks every human being in the world is as corruptible with money as American businessmen. Some people are happy with some money and a lot of pride and dignity. All these new Chinese investors operate with hearts full of pride and patriotism.

Charles Crevequer4 days ago

@stadoanarquista #PrettySnottyPissAnt 是這屆（庸碌）政府邪惡本質的另一個化身…

P W Deutschland4 days ago

Bessent's brazenness and excessive lying are ridiculous!

scudo1234 days ago

well he can't play Freedom card anymore that's why

Shesaidmewakeup4 days ago

Deepseek, qwen, glm, minimax. Download and run. The “control” argument looks worse every time someone posts the export page.

Owl My God ｜ China Documentary4 days ago

Pelosi Warned Against China MFN in 1996

Jimmy K....4 days ago

Gayman knows more about poopy asses and clean ups than on basic AI models from China

TM🌕4 days ago

These open weights are going to be unbelievably damaging forever I can't believe they released this latest gen of models

Akira4 days ago

He speak with his ass

RI az4 days ago

Nvidia technology thats what china needed

BrisFan4 days ago

Painful to watch.

🇧🇷 🇷🇺 🇮🇳 🇨🇳 🇿🇦+4 days ago

It's increasingly pointless to even pay attention to US leadership.

武仙子4 days ago

贝森特get the truth ，‘不会交出足够的控制权’，是中国性质做决定的。

Pitin4 days ago

Bessent solo es un bocatan, que semeja un Trump en pequeño.

Flavio Amando4 days ago

Just allow him to masturbate publicly

Hopalong4 days ago

I find DeepSeek better than the American AI models. Linux has proven that open source will always be better.

☭ Comr. Nyore_Oduebor ☭4 days ago

Is this guy okay? Mentally speaking.

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Ricardo

252,999 views • 2 months ago

What happens to Chinese AI once American companies stop releasing frontier models internationally? Gavin Baker says that China's made a "terrible mistake" by relying on its own chips and distilling American models: "It feels like the administration has been willing to let them buy H200s or B30s. And I think [the Chinese] have this crazy belief that, 'Oh, our own internal chips are good enough.' They're not." "And what's making them think that is that Chinese labs are very, very good at distillation...we've all seen those iPhone farms in China. You know they've got the same thing for distillation. They've got 100,000 endpoints distilling these models across every API available." "They've gotten really, really good at that. But all that goes away if people stop releasing these models at the frontier. And I think Mythos is a sign of things to come there."

What happens to Chinese AI once American companies stop releasing frontier models internationally? Gavin Baker says that China's made a "terrible mistake" by relying on its own chips and distilling American models: "It feels like the administration has been willing to let them buy H200s or B30s. And I think [the Chinese] have this crazy belief that, 'Oh, our own internal chips are good enough.' They're not." "And what's making them think that is that Chinese labs are very, very good at distillation...we've all seen those iPhone farms in China. You know they've got the same thing for distillation. They've got 100,000 endpoints distilling these models across every API available." "They've gotten really, really good at that. But all that goes away if people stop releasing these models at the frontier. And I think Mythos is a sign of things to come there."

TBPN

122,701 views • 3 months ago

America has the edge in the world’s most powerful AI models, no question. But China is playing a different game: efficiency, scale, and global deployment. Kyle Chan from Brookings China explains: "Does winning mean developing the world's most powerful AI models? If yes, then the us has the decisive lead. American ai models are widely recognized as the best in the world on virtually every metric you can think of, from math and reasoning to coding and AI agents, American private companies continue to set the pace at the technological frontier supported by deep capital markets, a dynamic innovation ecosystem, and the best talent from around the world. China's AI models are improving quickly but continue to lag behind. Chinese AI companies face real constraints on compute due to our export controls and their own limited capital resources, so instead they're prioritizing other goals. They're focused on efficiency, building models that are cheaper to train and run. They're focused on adoption using an open source strategy to win users around the world, and they're focused on integration with other platforms and services. On sheer performance, I would expect the gap between our models and theirs to persist or even widen over time. But model performance is not everything."

America has the edge in the world’s most powerful AI models, no question. But China is playing a different game: efficiency, scale, and global deployment. Kyle Chan from Brookings China explains: "Does winning mean developing the world's most powerful AI models? If yes, then the us has the decisive lead. American ai models are widely recognized as the best in the world on virtually every metric you can think of, from math and reasoning to coding and AI agents, American private companies continue to set the pace at the technological frontier supported by deep capital markets, a dynamic innovation ecosystem, and the best talent from around the world. China's AI models are improving quickly but continue to lag behind. Chinese AI companies face real constraints on compute due to our export controls and their own limited capital resources, so instead they're prioritizing other goals. They're focused on efficiency, building models that are cheaper to train and run. They're focused on adoption using an open source strategy to win users around the world, and they're focused on integration with other platforms and services. On sheer performance, I would expect the gap between our models and theirs to persist or even widen over time. But model performance is not everything."

Select Committee on China

60,135 views • 5 months ago

🚨SHOCKING: Senator Chuck Schumer passionately advocates for a 27.5% tariff on China in 2005! "It says to the Chinese that their unfair trade policies have got to end. The Chinese have enjoyed a yuge trade surplus with the U.S. Every year it gets larger and larger." "Much of that trade surplus is because the Chinese don't play fair. They don't let our goods into their country. I can tell you company after company in New York who cannot sell goods in China or can only sell them under impossible conditions." "The Chinese make no effort to prevent the ripping off of our intellectual property. These are our crown jewels. The thinking. The great creativity. The great entrepreneurialness of the American business community is just taken, and they shrug their shoulders." "And worse of all, the Chinese pile on and add unfair rules that violate free trade. And at the top of that list is the fact that the Chinese peg their currency abnormally low, so their exports get a 27% advantage here in the U.S. and our imports get a 27% disadvantage when sold in China. Every tenet of free trade, if you believe in it, says they should not peg their currency." "What does this mean for America? It means a yuge job loss. We have suffered dramatically in manufacturing jobs, service jobs, and other jobs. It means we have a huge trade deficit. It means the dollar sinks to abysmally low levels, threatening our wealth, and it creates chaos in the whole world trading system." "We are fed up, Mr. President. How can we stand by as millions of American workers lose their jobs? As thousands of American companies can't compete fairly? As our country as a whole has wealth drained from it?" "What we seek is fairness in trade. The Chinese do not play by the rules. We have talked and talked and talked to them. The time for action is now. If not now, when? If not us, who? Millions of American workers and thousands of American businesses look to us to set things right, and today, by passing the Schumer-Graham amendment, we can do that." Tagging Chuck Schumer — he’ll see your comments!

🚨SHOCKING: Senator Chuck Schumer passionately advocates for a 27.5% tariff on China in 2005! "It says to the Chinese that their unfair trade policies have got to end. The Chinese have enjoyed a yuge trade surplus with the U.S. Every year it gets larger and larger." "Much of that trade surplus is because the Chinese don't play fair. They don't let our goods into their country. I can tell you company after company in New York who cannot sell goods in China or can only sell them under impossible conditions." "The Chinese make no effort to prevent the ripping off of our intellectual property. These are our crown jewels. The thinking. The great creativity. The great entrepreneurialness of the American business community is just taken, and they shrug their shoulders." "And worse of all, the Chinese pile on and add unfair rules that violate free trade. And at the top of that list is the fact that the Chinese peg their currency abnormally low, so their exports get a 27% advantage here in the U.S. and our imports get a 27% disadvantage when sold in China. Every tenet of free trade, if you believe in it, says they should not peg their currency." "What does this mean for America? It means a yuge job loss. We have suffered dramatically in manufacturing jobs, service jobs, and other jobs. It means we have a huge trade deficit. It means the dollar sinks to abysmally low levels, threatening our wealth, and it creates chaos in the whole world trading system." "We are fed up, Mr. President. How can we stand by as millions of American workers lose their jobs? As thousands of American companies can't compete fairly? As our country as a whole has wealth drained from it?" "What we seek is fairness in trade. The Chinese do not play by the rules. We have talked and talked and talked to them. The time for action is now. If not now, when? If not us, who? Millions of American workers and thousands of American businesses look to us to set things right, and today, by passing the Schumer-Graham amendment, we can do that." Tagging Chuck Schumer — he’ll see your comments!

KanekoaTheGreat

1,475,067 views • 1 year ago

Sriram Krishnan on why Chinese models can distill off American models but American startups can't: "First of all, every model we have today is distilled off of all human knowledge. If you go back to the original GPT or the original Claude, they all had to derive off crawling the internet, crawling off all of our blogs and tweets and content. They kind of consume human knowledge to bootstrap that." "I'm going to steal this from Dean Meyer of Sequoia, who had a fantastic post yesterday. The situation which is bad today is that some of these models from other countries can train off American models, whereas if you are an American open weight model, it may be really confusing or challenging on whether you can distill off of other American models." "We kind of have a really uneven ecosystem here, where if you're a Chinese model, you could probably get a bunch of reasoning traces. But if you are a new Valley startup and you want to use some reasoning traces, you don't know what the legal situation is." "If you look at any American open source model today, they are using Chinese models as a teacher, or in a way as a part of the fine-tuning process. How do we make sure that is protected and enshrined, so if you're an American model company, you have the same level playing field as the Chinese models?" Sriram Krishnan

Sriram Krishnan on why Chinese models can distill off American models but American startups can't: "First of all, every model we have today is distilled off of all human knowledge. If you go back to the original GPT or the original Claude, they all had to derive off crawling the internet, crawling off all of our blogs and tweets and content. They kind of consume human knowledge to bootstrap that." "I'm going to steal this from Dean Meyer of Sequoia, who had a fantastic post yesterday. The situation which is bad today is that some of these models from other countries can train off American models, whereas if you are an American open weight model, it may be really confusing or challenging on whether you can distill off of other American models." "We kind of have a really uneven ecosystem here, where if you're a Chinese model, you could probably get a bunch of reasoning traces. But if you are a new Valley startup and you want to use some reasoning traces, you don't know what the legal situation is." "If you look at any American open source model today, they are using Chinese models as a teacher, or in a way as a part of the fine-tuning process. How do we make sure that is protected and enshrined, so if you're an American model company, you have the same level playing field as the Chinese models?" Sriram Krishnan

MTS

71,286 views • 1 month ago

Meanwhile in China, even a little boy of three years old loves the Chinese soldier and salutes him. Soldiers and police officers are expected to defend and respect their people, not murder and terrorize them. Many American politicians spout trash about China being a "totalitarian state," yet it turns out that their criticism is only a projection of themselves.

Meanwhile in China, even a little boy of three years old loves the Chinese soldier and salutes him. Soldiers and police officers are expected to defend and respect their people, not murder and terrorize them. Many American politicians spout trash about China being a "totalitarian state," yet it turns out that their criticism is only a projection of themselves.

Eivor

20,658 views • 7 months ago

China is exploiting U.S. birthright citizenship through surrogacy. For 13 years, roughly 100,000 Chinese babies have been born in the United States annually. Let me break it down: Parents fly in, mother gives birth, then returns to China with the baby. The child is raised in CCP schools and when they turn 18, they’re legally able to vote in U.S. elections. By the Chinese government’s own estimate, more than a million “U.S. citizens” are being raised in China and will begin voting in just a few years. Chinese elites are paying American women $50K-$60K to carry their babies. The child is born on U.S. soil, granted citizenship, and sent back to China. In Southern California alone, there are 107 Chinese-owned surrogacy companies advertising these services. The Wall Street Journal recently reported on a CCP-connected Chinese billionaire who claims he personally has over 100 U.S. born children being raised in China. This is a massive problem most Americans don’t even know exists.

China is exploiting U.S. birthright citizenship through surrogacy. For 13 years, roughly 100,000 Chinese babies have been born in the United States annually. Let me break it down: Parents fly in, mother gives birth, then returns to China with the baby. The child is raised in CCP schools and when they turn 18, they’re legally able to vote in U.S. elections. By the Chinese government’s own estimate, more than a million “U.S. citizens” are being raised in China and will begin voting in just a few years. Chinese elites are paying American women $50K-$60K to carry their babies. The child is born on U.S. soil, granted citizenship, and sent back to China. In Southern California alone, there are 107 Chinese-owned surrogacy companies advertising these services. The Wall Street Journal recently reported on a CCP-connected Chinese billionaire who claims he personally has over 100 U.S. born children being raised in China. This is a massive problem most Americans don’t even know exists.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

59,282 views • 7 months ago

China is once again unsettling its American competitors in the AI race. Chinese labs have returned to the spotlight with the unveiling of GLM 5.2, described as the most powerful AI model ever trained in China — and one of the leading open‑source models worldwide. 🔍 Key highlights of “GLM 5.2”: ♦️ It is considered the strongest AI model developed in China to date, and ranks among the smartest open‑source models available. ♦️ It operates at a cost less than one‑tenth that of Anthropic’s latest models, making it a far more economical option. ♦️ It is likely to attract developers and companies seeking powerful, low‑cost models — especially amid growing technical and geopolitical restrictions. ♦️ Some evaluations place the model among the top globally, trailing OpenAI’s models while outperforming several competitors in specialized benchmarks and performance tests.

China is once again unsettling its American competitors in the AI race. Chinese labs have returned to the spotlight with the unveiling of GLM 5.2, described as the most powerful AI model ever trained in China — and one of the leading open‑source models worldwide. 🔍 Key highlights of “GLM 5.2”: ♦️ It is considered the strongest AI model developed in China to date, and ranks among the smartest open‑source models available. ♦️ It operates at a cost less than one‑tenth that of Anthropic’s latest models, making it a far more economical option. ♦️ It is likely to attract developers and companies seeking powerful, low‑cost models — especially amid growing technical and geopolitical restrictions. ♦️ Some evaluations place the model among the top globally, trailing OpenAI’s models while outperforming several competitors in specialized benchmarks and performance tests.

China pulse 🇨🇳

14,293 views • 2 months ago