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"Both are tools that can accomplish the same task but one is smaller and easier for anyone to own and both require a human’s creative touch to truly shine." -- This is how I feel about Suno. My whole job is working with creators & musicians, and I get...

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Hideouts11 ay önce

The iPhone has a substantial cost to entry over lets say a disposable camera. Also using the iPhone as a camera isn’t quite the same as letting ai create and produce something for you. With an iPhone you still have to take the picture. I don’t think that analogy is hitting like you intended. That is like saying a midi keyboard would replace a grand piano. Both are tools that can accomplish the same task but one is smaller and easier for anyone to own and both require a human’s creative touch to truly shine. I don’t know how that equates to an ai being trained on licensed music illegally (I read the lawsuits Suno is currently entrenched in) or having ai write and produce a track for you.

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eat soup11 ay önce

Genuinely no hate to anyone. At the end of the day, you guys care about helping people, and so do I.  I believe that music belongs to everyone, and that lowering the barrier to entry for music is a good thing. I've seen people light up when they get to create music for the very first time. I've seen Suno improve the creation process for so many lifelong musicians I know. I get to work with independent artists day in and day out, and I wouldn't be here if I didn't genuinely believe it will help more creatives do what they love.  A wide range of musicians use Suno in their creative process, from aspiring musicians to independent musicians to Grammy-winning musicians, and they do so with effort and authenticity. Songwriters are using Suno to underpaint their own vocals, lyrics, and melodies. Producers are uploading their own beats and building on top of it, extracting stems in Suno Studio that they can then take to their DAWs. It’s another tool that people can use to channel their own creativity, and if this tool isn’t for you, that is totally okay. I'm supportive of whatever helps people get their ideas across the finish line. I know AI is really scary. I worry about it too, and I've talked about it many times before. How do we make sure we enable AI for good and creativity? I think this is a question every technologist and every consumer needs to think about, and I'm at Suno because I want to help push towards the right goals. It's our responsibility to foster technology for good. Ultimately, I believe in technology's ability to expand creation for more and more people.  iPhones didn't end photography -- it expanded the definition of who could also be a photographer. Tiktok, Instagram, and Youtube all expanded the definition of who could be a content creator. The fact that anyone can be a content creator today (if they want to be) is really fucking cool to me. Content creation completely changed my life, and I am always going to be passionate about what I believe is expanding creation.  We work with busy parents who get to make their kids songs about the water cycle. We work with poets who get to hear their written words as melodies. We work with seniors in hospitals who see that they can still be creative, even as they lose mental and physical facilities. These stories really inspire me, and I believe all of these people deserve to experience this magic. Creativity is boundless, and there is room for everyone in it.

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Elijah11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts there’s creativity involved but nothing actually being learned. nobody’s getting better at anything but prompting and maybe learning how to drag and drop clips, this is a crutch that’s gonna stunt potential musicians because people keep framing it as an accessibility thing

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avril11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts the way this argument is framed is so disingenuous. you can get clean stems with your iPhone mic. you can edit and extract stems on Garage Band (Free DAW since 2004) if suno was actually sincere, it would pay the musicians it trained it's machine on and not charge $360 a year.

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Michael11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts You cannot be serious. “how do I get clean stems, how do I edit specific stems, how do I extract stems back to my DAW?” ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS HAVE ANSWERS THAT ARENT AI. Disgusting, disappointing, lazy and dishonest. Real artists don’t need this.

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Zed Jaeger11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts Either your stupid ass defenses are ai or you have people managing your account now LMAO

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Sam Haft 🍉11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts “how do I get clean stems, how do I edit specific stems, how do I extract stems back to my DAW?” - these are not pain points for creating music, they are pain points for iterating generative AI music. Nobody needs to ‘stem split’ something they made from their own stems 🫩

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Hideouts11 ay önce

There’s already tools for extracting stems from tracks for free. I don’t know why I would need to edit stems if they are coming from a track I already produced unless you are feeding them into the ai to produce around let’s say a vocal stem. I have never had the issue of “I can’t extract stems or edit stems” because I produce the entirety of a track myself and can bounce each individual instrument as a separate stem. Unless there is something I’m missing here, it seems like the issue you are creating is taking a vocal stem and feeding it into Suno to produce around it, taking all of the artistry away. Half of the joy of music production, in my opinion, is sound designing around an idea and making something no one has heard before by tweaking instrument parameters and presets.

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eat soup11 ay önce

I'm happy to connect you with the producers I've talked to who tell us that clean stem extraction is something they need, because stem extraction always leaves artifacts in the sound. We're working with museums of artists who made songs from the 1900s that want to be able to split out the stems and show people all the parts of the song in the exhibits. There are so many use cases involved, and stem extraction is just *one tool* on Suno that I gave an example of. Some producers want to be able to replace a stem. Some want idea generation. Again, I'm truly happy to connect you with the artists doing this, they're the real experts and I am constantly learning from them

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scungilli man ☽☾ 🇯🇲11 ay önce

Feel however you want girlie you are wrong and no one likes u

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ꙮbee fartsꙮ11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts you keep bringing up stems like suno invented stems shut the fuck up about stems people could fuck with stems before suno was around

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Ed Newton-Rex11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts “I get to see people release new EPs and albums using Suno” This means Suno is being used to compete with the music it’s trained on, right?

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Oval11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts confused about how yall always seemed shocked by public preception....

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Drizzle11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts Eat shit you stupid thief grifter

Jade 🇪🇺 profil fotoğrafı
Jade 🇪🇺11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts You bring such a bad faith vibe to this discussion because not one ounce of the service you are pushing is more affordable

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Sandra Bullock’s #1 Fan11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts Rosie, genuinely listen to the valid criticisms involving Suno and its practices. Stop regurgitating talking points, they aren’t landing. If any of this was sincere, Suno wouldn’t have lied about training using copyrighted materials without permission. Pay up or shut up.

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Aphex Twan11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts Bro is making royalty free Love Island type beats on pro tools, he’s already AI 😭

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UHIS11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts Getting clean stems? Thats only a point when you're a thieving AI "creator" because otherwise you WOULD HAVE MADE THOSE STEMS YOURSELF

nick profil fotoğrafı
nick11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts this is a fucking ad

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Papa Pedagogy11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts Do you truly think AI server farms make Suno smaller than learning music yourself?

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The Izzinator11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts you're talking in circles and sound silly sorry

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Irshad11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts She really believes what the company told her

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Tallhomo11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts Shut up and eat shit my god. All your arguments boil down to “but you don’t see how IM seeing these lazy artists are generating songs using prompts”. Your lower barrier for entry argument is bullshit anyways because Suno is going to start charging to download shit people generate

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Not Samantha A11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts Your job seems useless.

YMX_A profil fotoğrafı
YMX_A11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts say shine again

Octavius profil fotoğrafı
Octavius11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts the video provided is not an artist who has financial or technological limits to creation. this is bullshit.

UHIS profil fotoğrafı
UHIS11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts Couldnt even write a fucking tweet without AI could ya

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beeboextreme11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts also AI wrote this you fucking fraud

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GamerBoiPrince11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts You can just export the project as stems, you may be confused because the daw doesn’t call them stems. Have fun producing!

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Adrian Powers11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts This is a generational crash out.

Dale profil fotoğrafı
Dale11 ay önce

Basically just farming stuff out to someone else (in this case ai) to do the work. Lazy. You save time but to what end? endless songs building up, eventually getting boring & stale for yourself & everyone else. Our souls LIKE working hard towards things. That's where the true value & self respect is.

Nick🦅 profil fotoğrafı
Nick🦅11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts Turbo loser

Mikhail A.G. Konov profil fotoğrafı
Mikhail A.G. Konov11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts youre trying. and failing.

beeboextreme profil fotoğrafı
beeboextreme11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts let's be real: if you didn't stand to make $$$ whenever suno (god what a stupid ass name) is sold you wouldn't give A SINGULAR FUCK ABOUT THIS collect your ducats and apologize to your low income asian immigrant parents

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dragon harpoon🕺11 ay önce

@RSPN_Hideouts Shut up dumbass

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Suno's mission is to make it possible for everyone to make music. We imagine a future where music is a bigger, more valuable, and more meaningful part of people's lives than it even is today. Technology enables a future where the whole world can explore, create, and be active participants in an art form most have only ever consumed. From professional musicians seeking inspiration to friends and family writing songs for each other, we are exploring new ways to create, listen to, and experience music. So far, more than 12 million people are engaging with music in new ways that wouldn't be possible without Suno. We see this as early but promising progress. Major record labels see this vision as a threat to their business. Each and every time there's been innovation in music — from the earliest forms of recorded music, to sampling, to drum machines, to remixing, MP3s, and streaming music — the record labels have attempted to limit progress. They have spent decades attempting to control the terms of how we create and enjoy music, and this time is no different. So, it is perhaps not a surprise that on June 24th, members of the Recording Industry Association of America, which represents the major record labels, filed a lawsuit against Suno, alleging that the data used in training our music generation technologies infringed on the copyrights of the major record labels that they represent. This lawsuit is fundamentally flawed on both the facts and the law, and is nothing more than yet another instance where they chose litigation over innovation. For starters, the major record labels clearly hold misconceptions about how our technology works. Suno helps people create music through a similar process to one humans have used forever: by learning styles, patterns, and forms (in essence, the "grammar" or music), and then inventing new music around them. The major record labels are trying to argue that neural networks are mere parrots — copying and repeating — when in reality model training looks a lot more like a kid learning to write new rock songs by listening religiously to rock music. Like that kid, Suno gets better the more our AI learns. We train our models on medium- and high-quality music we can find on the open internet — just as Google's Gemini, Microsoft's Copilot, Anthropic's Claude, OpenAI's ChatGPT, and even Apple's new Apple Intelligence train their models on the open internet. Much of the open internet indeed contains copyrighted materials, and some of it is owned by major record labels. But, just like the kid writing their own rock songs after listening to the genre — or a teacher or a journalist reviewing existing materials to draw new insights — learning is not infringing. It never has been, and it is not now. The timing of this lawsuit was somewhat surprising. When this lawsuit landed, Suno was, in fact, having productive discussions with a number of the RIAA's major record label members to find ways of expanding the pie for music together. We did so not because we had to, but because we believe that the music industry could help us lead this expansion of opportunity for everyone, rather than resisting it. Whether this lawsuit is the result of over-eager lawyers throwing their weight around, or a conscious strategy to gain leverage in our commercial discussions, we believe that this lawsuit is an unnecessary impediment to a larger and more valuable future for music. This is particularly the case because Suno is a new kind of musical instrument, one that enables a new kind of creative process for everyone and opens new business opportunities for the industry. Suno is designed for original music, and we prize originality, both in how we build our product and in how people use it. People who use Suno are using the product to create their own, original music. They are not trying to recreate an existing song that can be heard somewhere else on the internet for free. But, even if they were trying to copy existing music, we have myriad controls in place to encourage originality and prevent duplicative use cases. We do so more aggressively than any other company in the industry, including other startups. Some of our originality-guarding features include checking for and preventing copyrighted content in audio uploads, and disallowing artist-based descriptions in requests to generate music. Why do we work to encourage originality? We do this because it makes for a more fun and engaging experience to create entirely original compositions on Suno. We do it because we think it makes Suno incredibly valuable to be a place where new musical talent can shine. AI allows anyone to realize the songs in their head, regardless of the money, equipment, or connections that they have. The future is an explosion of new artists that are creating music in new ways, building fan bases, finding new reasons to smile, and getting famous. We hope that the major record labels realize that we can build a stronger foundation for the music industry of tomorrow, together. With or without them, we will continue pursuing our mission on behalf of the many millions of music fans already creating with Suno, and all those who will in the coming months. We are excited and humbled to support this next generation of musicians and the music they create. --- 🎥: shing86 jams with Suno

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