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BREAKING: Pope Leo on the SSPX consecrations — “I am considering making another appeal and saying ‘don't do this, let's try to live the communion of the Church.’ But it is their choice. We must realize what it means for them and for the Church. Certainly, the division among...

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Steve Skojec 的头像
Steve Skojec3 个月前

Not my circus, not my monkeys, but worth pointing out that the principle of non-contradiction applies here: If the SSPX holds to what the Church taught BEFORE Vatican II, and Leo says they can't be accepted because of what Vatican II taught, then there is mutual exclusivity between what Catholicism WAS and what Catholicism IS. In other words: he is admitting, out loud, that they are different religions.

Anna D. West 🇺🇸 的头像
Anna D. West 🇺🇸3 个月前

@du_fuss He met with the Anglican woman, he met with the Orthodox, he met with Muslims and gave them a prayer room. I can't with this anymore. The church hasn't even demonstrated a single thing about Vatican 2 that was either necessary or an improvement. Why should I follow this?

Momo deTar 的头像
Momo deTar3 个月前

Will any reporter worth their salt ask him why then Chinese GOVERNMENT is allowed to choose and consecrate their own imposter communist wolves and yet, these holy men cannot consecrate Bishops? What is he difference? The Chinese Communists do not believe ANYTHING the Catholic Church teaches. But they are free to do as they please and be praised for it.

louis Mathew 的头像
louis Mathew3 个月前

But FR. James Martin is in full communion?

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Become A Saint3 个月前

Honestly good on Pope Leo, I hope the SSPX comes back, but enough is enough. He’s right

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Mason-Dixon Latin Mass Society3 个月前

@du_fuss Can anyone define "accepting Vatican II"? Because it's sort of like "antisemitism" anymore. It's just used to bludgeon people who make you uncomfortable with the truth.

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Daehenob3 个月前

Is Pope Leo aware that Episcopalian are excommunicated. Is he aware that Lutherans are excommunicated? Is he aware that Anglicans are excommunicated? Because he's more chummy with them than he is with real Catholics. Maybe once they're excommunicated he'll be more friendly

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Rod Halvorsen at EVR_Forge.3 个月前

From a fellow that marched with Communists and took part in a pagan ritual and blessed the "fruitful" "responsibilities" of a transvestite married woman who is pretending to be an archbishop, what does "accept some fundamental elements of the Church, starting with several points of the Second Vatican Council" even mean?

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AdVoluntasTua ❤️‍🔥🇻🇦 🇺🇸 🇵🇹 🚜3 个月前

Dear SSPX, I DO NOT bow before your dignity +Leo XIV

The Way is Love 的头像
The Way is Love3 个月前

Here is an idea. Lets behave like men and speak to one and other. Not through the media, PR statements and beautiful videos. Get in a room, be men and work it out, or don’t. Walk in together, talk, walk out of the room together and tell the world what you came up with. Too public and pathetic on all sides

OABlnr 的头像
OABlnr3 个月前

@PrayTheRosary Meet with their Superior ASAP, grant the mandate and keep talking afterwards. He cannot be this obtuse.

KBChristianMama 的头像
KBChristianMama3 个月前

Meanwhile, Catholic priests like James Martin are running around spreading false doctrine and leading Catholics to hell, yet received with open arms by the Popes, including Pope Leo…

aJ.Route7 的头像
aJ.Route73 个月前

And many will move forward with them, as they are correct and, more importantly, the true Catholic Church under Christ’s Commission. We are not the Synodal church @Pontifex Vatican II was the smoke of satan entering the Church. Just admit it and return to the true Catholic Doctrine of Faith. (If they were China, you’d wave your hand and say, as many times as you have before, to the communist bishop consecrations, “ok”.)

Kate S 的头像
Kate S3 个月前

Tell it to the Chinese government. Then you will have credibility.

Anthony Carver 的头像
Anthony Carver3 个月前

Vatican II says that 'the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using those churches not in communion with Her as means of salvation.' So if the society is excommunicated, that means 'the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using the SSPX as means of salvation.'

Co-Redemptrix Fan 的头像
Co-Redemptrix Fan3 个月前

“We must move forward.” Toward what? More of this?

Chris 🇮🇪 🇻🇦☘️ 的头像
Chris 🇮🇪 🇻🇦☘️3 个月前

@FredSimonTLM He basically quoted Martin Luther; “Here I stand, I can do no other”

Rosemarie L-S 的头像
Rosemarie L-S3 个月前

Move forward to where exactly? I reject a “New Synodal Church” and adhere to the Church given to us by Jesus Christ.

Fortitude 的头像
Fortitude3 个月前

Is Pope Leo going to apply the same metric to L+++ masses & German episcopal heretics 🤷‍♂️

systemkritik247 的头像
systemkritik2473 个月前

It is not about the tlm. It is always about to fully accept the super-dogma of modernist Rome which is Vatican 2. If you criticize their synodal conciliar woke church setting / agenda / machinery, you are out.

David Berger 的头像
David Berger3 个月前

Vielerorts wird die "hohe Intelligenz" von Leo gerühmt ... in diesem Statement kann man sie nicht erkennen. Es ist Blabla ... "Wir müssen vorankommen" - geht es noch banaler und nichtssagender?

Levi 的头像
Levi3 个月前

Nunca compreendi por que a aceitação integral de um Concílio de caráter predominantemente pastoral é frequentemente tratada como critério absoluto de comunhão, sobretudo quando as divergências dizem respeito não a novos dogmas, mas a formulações e aplicações que permanecem objeto de debate. O que mais me intriga nessa questão é que Roma parece oferecer à Fraternidade Sacerdotal São Pio X uma via de reconciliação que, examinada de perto, conduz inevitavelmente à sua extinção. Formalmente, existe uma saída: basta que a fraternidade aceite integralmente o Concílio Vaticano II nos termos exigidos por Roma. Contudo, essa solução é apenas nominal. A dificuldade reside no fato de que a identidade da FSSPX foi construída precisamente sobre a convicção de que determinados aspectos do Concílio e de sua aplicação histórica devem ser objeto de crítica e revisão à luz da tradição anterior. Se ela mantiver essa posição, permanecerá em uma situação canônica irregular e, com o passar das décadas, poderá simplesmente desaparecer juridicamente quando seus últimos bispos e lideranças forem sucedidos por uma estrutura incapaz de se perpetuar. Se, por outro lado, aceitar as condições que lhe são impostas e abandonar as teses que justificaram sua existência, continuará existindo apenas no nome. Terá preservado seus seminários, suas capelas e suas estruturas administrativas, mas terá renunciado à razão de ser que motivou sua fundação. Em outras palavras, a reconciliação oferecida parece apontar para apenas dois desfechos possíveis: a extinção jurídica ou a extinção substancial. Na primeira, a fraternidade desaparece como instituição; na segunda, permanece institucionalmente viva, mas deixa de ser aquilo que a tornou distinta. O resultado final é semelhante em ambos os casos: a FSSPX deixa de existir enquanto realidade própria. É justamente por isso que muitos de seus membros enxergam a proposta atual não como uma verdadeira conciliação entre posições distintas, mas como um caminho cuja etapa final é, inevitavelmente, a dissolução da identidade da fraternidade, de forma explícita ou gradual. Afinal, uma organização não deixa de existir apenas quando fecha suas portas; ela também deixa de existir quando abandona os princípios que justificaram sua criação. ...

Patrick 的头像
Patrick3 个月前

Why not give this devout Catholic order with 700 priests and 6 seminaries the bishops they need?

Sixtus none the richer 的头像
Sixtus none the richer3 个月前

@PerMariam This is guy is unbelievable. You won’t meet with them in fact won’t even respond to their letters. Then you run out to the media and act like they won’t accept fundamental elements of the church. Time for the media and axelrod and the dipshit mayor of Chicago but not sspx.

JVmitten 的头像
JVmitten3 个月前

I sure wish this wasn't being aired out in public. I would be far more encouraged if they worked together in private, and advised of the outcome.

Robbert Leusink 🇳🇱 的头像
Robbert Leusink 🇳🇱3 个月前

@father_rmv So why does he make time to speak to a journalist and not to the Superior General of the SSPX?

CatholicismEnjoyer 的头像
CatholicismEnjoyer3 个月前

So hes threatening to excommunicate over pastoral matters? What a joke

Chase Mudd 🇻🇦 🏀 ❤️ 💙 🔔 的头像
Chase Mudd 🇻🇦 🏀 ❤️ 💙 🔔3 个月前

Sad. I pray for the Holy Father still, but he could make this all right by just granting them permission.

Donald Meccia 的头像
Donald Meccia3 个月前

Said the deeply AntiCatholic, pantheistic communist, Friend of David axelrod, and the Democratic Party, incapable of doing anything authentically based on Catholic truth. Enemy of our BVM. His attack on her titles alone is rotten to the core. Worm ridden just like Bergoglio

Fatima Akita 的头像
Fatima Akita3 个月前

Dear Pope Leo, if you truly want communion, the solution is easy. Just say yes to the Episcopal Consecration. Vat 2 is a different matter. You didn't split hairs with the Orthodox, why are you doing it with the SSPX?

☧ ɢʀᴀᴛɪᴀ ᴠᴇʀɪᴛᴀᴛɪꜱ 的头像
☧ ɢʀᴀᴛɪᴀ ᴠᴇʀɪᴛᴀᴛɪꜱ3 个月前

Lines have been drawn. I know which side I'm on: the side of our Lord and Savior.

Russell Koch 的头像
Russell Koch3 个月前

@father_rmv There were many, many dogmatic ecumenical councils before the pastoral VII. I guess they don’t teach that anymore.

Erik Deutsch 的头像
Erik Deutsch3 个月前

@father_rmv What is their communion if all what the Vatican says submit because I said so? So much for a Church that listens and is synodal. It is the opposite of it!

Irish Girl🌷 的头像
Irish Girl🌷3 个月前

@TwiterusMaximus You are causing the division Pope Leo. You know very well James Martin is not following the teachings of the church but you and you predecessor have not only promoted him but you have elevated him and rewarded his disgusting behaviour.

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